Sorry for the confusion about Obama being a “terrific candidate”. I didn’t mean that in a complimentary way, exactly. Perhaps I should have said “terrific contestant”. I don’t consider our two-party politics to be valid or even realistic. It’s a show, a SIDESHOW, a distraction. So Obama is a terrific contestant in the mainstream, reality TV show sense because his candidacy plays right into that role. He’s intelligent and inspirational when compared to Bush, but that’s not saying anything. He knows how to play the game, so millions are buying into him because the game is all they see.

Well, our world is not a game, and I don’t want to support anyone who treats it that way. Not now, not ever. Nader ‘08!
Thanks.

“The main reason most people are going to vote for Obama…”

I don’t know that most people are going to vote for Obama and we’ll never know the truth since the “election” (if there is one) will likely be fraudulent (just like the 2000 and 2004 presidential “election” since the voting system is the same today. Corrupt.)

I meant to say “The main reason most Dem voters are going to vote for Obama…” is because of the D behind his name.

“I finally understand: People everywhere are supporting Obama because it is EASIER than getting involved to demand real change. ”

That’s part of it. The main reason most people are going to vote for Obama—not that they are necessarily supporting him—is because he has a D behind his name. That’s the #1 and only requirement.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day that speaks to this mentality:

“Vote Democrats. McCain = Third Bush Term.”

So “vote Democrats” even when most of them are Repugs? That makes a hell of a lot of sense!

Most people are programmed with party-line politics at a rather early age. That’s all they can think. I can’t begin to count the number of times I’ve heard people say such stuff as “I’ve always been a Dem. I’ll be a Dem until the day I die. My family is a good Dem family. We always vote Dem.” The same for Repugs.

That’s what we’re dealing with. D and R party-line programming. It’s as cemented in people as the belief in a god is cemented in them. Most people will never deprogramme this shit without professional help.

I share your frustration. Dem kool-aid drinkers drive me up the fuking wall. Can’t stand them and their blinders and denial. And they make apologies and excuses for ANYTHING their useless Bush-accomplice politicians do for the Bush regime. (Ex. They refer to “Bush’s war” rather than “The Iraq war started by Bush, the Repugs AND the Dems.” The partisan Dem hacks can’t bear to say that. (Denial.) The party-line people are pathetic.

As soon as I realize I’m talking with some party-line hack who will go to any extreme to defend their indefensible politicians, I say to hell with them. I have absolutely no patience for these toe the party line people.

“We have been so beaten down by the abuses of the Bush administration that we will accept anything (including a Democratic candidate who supports war, bailouts for crooks, criminal corporate spying and the Patriot Act, and who helped protect Bush & Cheney from impeachment).”

Yet earlier Stevec wrote:

“Obviously, Obama is an intelligent person and a terrific candidate.”

A “terrific candidate?” He’s a TERRIBLE candidate for the very reasons you listed and that doesn’t even begin to cover it. There’s nothing “terrific” about a candidate that has served as a Bush accomplice since he’s been in the senate.

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Nader/Gonzalez 2008, if there is an “election”
Cindy Sheehan to replace Bush accomplice Pelosi
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Like 90 percent of the black population, the CBC is drunk on Obama kool aid. Further, the CBC is as useless as the rest of the Democratic Congress. Check out blackagendareport.com for previous articles on the CBC - especially the ones where Congressional Black Monitor grades CBC members.

Sustar is on point when he says Obama has his cake and eats it too. An unquestioning, enabling media perpetuates the myth of Obama being the uber progressive/liberal/FDR/MLK/Jesus that will lead us to the promised land - when in reality the man favors the same neoliberal/neocon, corporatist policies as McCain, Bush, and Bill Clinton - with a few tweaks thrown in to temporarily appease ignorant voters.

Another example of having cake/eating too is the R word. Mr. “There is no black America/no white America/I transcend race” Obama runs as far away from any so-called “black issues” (jobs, housing, schools, prison system) as he can. The most he’s been seen around predominatly black groups is to chastise the “n’er do wells” for their babymaking, slackass, fattening foods eating, trifling ways. However, slick Willie II, er, Obama knows how to play the race card when needed, for example, to deflect criticism. And it works.

No wonder he admires Ronald Reagan. He’s more Teflon proof than the Gipper.

Vote Nader or McKinney.

Thanks for nothing, Obama! Just another fawning agent of the ruling elite. “Change”, my foot!!!

Thanks for nothing, Obama! Just another fawning agent of the ruling elite — “Change”, my foot!!!

It has been excruciating to watch so many intelligent people fall for the Republican vs. Democrat scam once again. I’ve been overwhelmed with frustration and confusion at seeing my friends and colleagues pledge their support to Obama. Are they glued to Fox or CNN? Is there something in the water?

Slowly, it has become much more clear. Obama is there to make us feel good. He is there to make people who desperately want change FEEL like they are involved, that they can make a difference. Well let me remind you, simply voting for Obama or McCain does NOT count as “involvement” in our democracy.

I finally understand: People everywhere are supporting Obama because it is EASIER than getting involved to demand real change. Voting third party, protesting, uniting behind progressive ideas, fighting back; these are all viewed by the corporate media-fed masses as either ineffective or just too difficult.

Obviously, Obama is an intelligent person and a terrific candidate. His speeches and multi-million dollar marketing campaign make him appear better than McCain. But what’s really going on is this. We have been so beaten down by the abuses of the Bush administration that we will accept anything (including a Democratic candidate who supports war, bailouts for crooks, criminal corporate spying and the Patriot Act, and who helped protect Bush & Cheney from impeachment). We have been beaten into submission and now many are simply proving it by accepting the two-party system instead of taking a stand against a corrupt government.

// Wave those campaign signs with pride, cause it’s easier than thinking. //

Of course there won’t be any third-party candidates at the “debates”. The debate commission is owned by the two wings of the single ruling party, and it is funded by corporate donations. The League of Women Voters washed their hands of the putrid charade in the late 80s because of secret pre-debate agreements between the corporate candidates. Why anyone would waste time watching those farces is beyond me. All the corporate-puppet candidates — whose every word is a lie — do is pretend to answer carefully selected questions asked by propagandists.