That may be a NEW reason for it not being labeled a hate crime (by at least you), but it sure wasn’t the first reason

cg: Well, you yourself have demonstrated a remarkable talent for that from the very start. I’m still waiting for a direct response to a GOOD many questions and observations, including my INITIAL one:

“I take it that you actually SUPPORT Lauras idiotic contentions. Is that correct?”

I can see NO reason to faithfully address your shifting, radically racist remarks when you’ve completely disregarded my prior, well-reasoned responses to such “arguments”.

The assertion you “tackled” above was NOT addressed to you, and was NOT a question. Moreover, it is patently absurd to propose changing Farsi, a language, into Iran, a nation-state. Finally, what the novel introduction of the Iran-Iraq war — a SECTARIAN conflict encouraged and sustained secretly by the US — has to do with any of these anti-religious ravings OR support of your prior claims is beyond me. (There are Muslims who drive taxis. Does that imply that taxi-driving is an “Islamo fascist conspiracy”?)

I’m not selling anything here; I’m just not buying! It’s you who appears to be in all-out hard-sell mode, “merchandizing” the lamest of generalizations based only on hopelessly weak underpinnings.

“I sincerely doubt you could present us with any demonstrable examples of “Islamo fascistic crimes” perpetrated against Farsi.”

Do you want predictive, self fulfilling, or both?

Change Farsi to Iran, then the answer would certainly be yes.
A little thing called the Iran-Iraq war. Eight years of brotherly love.
Atrocities galore. Both sides trying to out Islam the other.
One side abetted by the bloodsucking Jews, the other abetted by the bloodsucking Christians.
All three “desert religions” expressing their, well…words fail me.

So if you are attempting to ’sell’ any of them as anything but blood and guts, sooner or later, I’m not buying either.

cg: I assure you, I RARELY jest. And while Wikipedia is merely a launching pad in any quest for knowledge, it serves the purpose quite well.

But I should rightly return your interrogative: Are you SERIOUS in offering me two clearly-labeled EDITORIALS as would-be “rebuttals” to an open-source ENCYCLOPEDIA entry?? Now who’s jesting??? (While I would even have reviewed the two, had the server not been inaccessible, I’m hardly inclined to consider opinion pieces as substantial counterweights to well-annotated factual tracts.)

Again, this line of argumentation is utterly irrelevant to the subject at hand. During even the latter phase of the period you wish to “revisit”, Europeans were still burning “heretics” at the stake, stoning witches, etc. Does that history automatically render MODERN Europeans as irrevocably “savage”??

Sorry, this type of extreme “historical” stretch, in erstwhile support of mere bigotry, doesn’t hold a DROP of water. Even if it did, you’d be hard pressed to satisfactorily explain why your 500-year-old historical observation should be considered in any way “predictive” when my merely 60-year-old German parallel doesn’t adhere to that “paradigm” at all!

Nope. Ain’t buyin’ that one — no way, no how.

It seems that where ever Islam goes, the extinction of any existing culture(s) is sure to follow. Complete with distortions, propaganda and martial enforcement.
Not that this is unique to Islam, just that it is.
In my view all the ‘desert religions,’ Judaism, Christianity and Islam are extensions of the same unhealthy and, well, murderous disorder.

http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0001/ET25-5336.html

http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0002/ET21-5523.html

“Just because this isnt common knowledge and taught as a matter of fact doesnt change history.”

I’m not at all convinced that your decidedly one-sided stance on this relatively controversial subject IS “history”. Durant and Gautier are but two voices in this debate, whose observances are contested by other historians. See, for example, Wikipedia’s “Islamic Conquest of India”

There are certainly FAR more recent developments in history — utterly undisputed ones — that could more pertinently be wielded as “evidence” for, say, the notion that the German people are “innately murderous”. Yet Germany is a US ally and friend, and few would seek to thus pillory its populace for wartime misdeeds dating back a mere 60+ years. You, on the other hand, are seemingly eager to go back CENTURIES in pursuit of some “rationale” with which to excuse this blustering tirade of grossly anti-Islamic bigotry unleashed by Laura. Puh-LEASE!

As my colleague Huey Longer adeptly suggests, this senseless excursion into the far distant past is quite irrelevant to this, or any other, discussion of CURRENT events.

“This grave state of Zoroastrianism was brought about by the Islamic invasion of Persia, the name for pre-Arab Iran, and the religious cleansing that followed. Many Zoroastrians were converted by the edge of the sword and many of them paid with their lives for their pejorative. Also, it led to their exodus to places like India”.

“the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history,”
Will Durant

“Let it be said right away: the massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history.”
Francois Gautier

In India, as well as Iran and Afghanistan, ‘the religion of peace’ slaughtered upwards of 60-80 million Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Zorastrians and others.
Just because this isn’t common knowledge and taught as a matter of fact doesn’t change history.

Note: Farsi is a LANGUAGE! It is spoken by Persians (Iranians), who just happen to be predominantly Muslim. I sincerely doubt you could present us with any demonstrable examples of “Islamo fascistic crimes” perpetrated against Farsi! [ROTFLOL.]

You are either amazingly gullible or a typical right-wing liar. Either way, you’re clearly a TWIT.

How can anyone defend those that regard non-Muslims as apes & pigs, or (as Abu Hamza says:) as cows or (as Mullah Bakri:) ss worms?

And why blame the messenger for daring to expose fascism and crimes all over the world on: Hindus, Buddhists, Jews (Israelis or European or else), Zorateans, Farsi, socialists, ect.

Or Islamo fascistic crimes on their own brothers (in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Algeria, etc.) for not being ‘Muslim enough’ in their hateful eyes?

Is the global Jihad’s masacre and campaign to establish the global Islamic totalitarian oppressive regime [Caliphate] not bigotry in the name of Islam?

It’s not a hate crime - it’s a war crime. Americans don’t hate Muslims - they are warring against them as part of a project to control their resources. Threats, intimidation, assault, murder, rape, and other forms of terrorist violence are part of the ongoing war against Muslims and Arabs.

So, I suppose if someone were to engage in mass assault at a synagogue, it wouldn’t be a hate crime UNLESS they also took the time to spray-paint swastikas on the building. Uh-huh.

‘ …The film openly compares Islam today to Nazism prior to the Second World War, showing images of Nazi rallies intercut with images purportedly of Muslim children being exhorted to be suicide bombers. The film features prominent right-wing Islamophobes like Daniel Pipes and Alan Dershowitz, among others. Last year, arch-conservative David Horowitz screened the film on several college campuses as part of his Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week. ‘

Amazing how the vilest of [NeoCo]Nazis in this country so frequently and brazenly wield the term most descriptive of themselves in preposterous attempts to “demonize” their intended victims. It’s actually rather reminiscent of Hitler raging about “Polish terrorists”.

Horowitz and his ilk are the ultimate scum of the earth. But then, “Welcome to the Fourth Reich!”