A belief that says the combination of sources and over nearly two decades is not realiable seems a form of denial which is pretty much the kind of thing the Bush administration uses to support its anti-science position. So, you seem to be in some kind of company there.

The authors of the “document”, ORB? A marketing research “polling” firm whose clients include Hill & Knowlton, Stanley Morgan, Bank of Scotland, etc. The article does not include who the ORB client was that requested and paid for the report, or document.

What difference does it matter if the US has slaughtered 90,000 Iraqi over the last 6 years or 3 million Iraqi’s over the last nearly 2 decades?

Why are you quibbling over this? When was the last time the US airforce LITERALLY dropped its load on your neighborhood wiping out your family and most of your neighbors so you couldn’t even recognize the area from where you thought you were the day before?

When was the last time you out in the street dazed by the rubble and torn bodies as you tried to make your way to safety which was impossible because the constant terror and couldn’t find safe drinking water and food?

Forget about the metaphors and the nasty mean streets; I’m talking about ghastly terror of a kind NO ONE in this country HAS EVER SEEN.

Glib talk about numbers, left/right biases will seem pretty damn SILLY if not down right mean and ugly spirited. I suspect had this happened to you, to your family, to your neighborhood, it wouldn’t be a question of numbers because everyone and everything that meant anything was GONE.

But by including the totality of the murder by the US, the horrible slaughter of childern and civilians for almost 2 decades is certainly on par with the likes of Stalin and Hitler you are making an important point.

There is one Party. It is the War Party. It rules with an iron fist and was born out of the blood of the indigenous tribes and roamed the earth with a vengence, unchecked.

Now, the American people are feeling the boot. The preditor has come home.

Oh! I’m aware of the Jewish Lobby and the influence they have within American politics …. That is a given.
http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/CALM/showthread.php?t=16319

I was wondering how the Jews managed to gain such power in almost every country on the planet. There are less than 15 million of them in the whole world and yet they seem to have an inordinate amount of influence within the world. How is that possible? How did they manage to accomplish this? It is not a new phenonomen, it seems have been a fact for centuries. For centuries they never even had a country to call their own and yet they still had alot of wealth and influence. Today, Israel is a barren land without any natural resources (not even any water) and yet they still seem to maintain or accumulate wealth and influence within the world. Is there any other instance of another group of 15 million people living in the universe and having had such luck or circumstance?

I also have information concerning the holocaust as per the earlier discussions here.
http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/CALM/showthread.php?t=7981

Calm

Here is the information which I collected since 2004 or when the first major report surfaced within the media. Please don’t bother joining or registering. It is just a database which I maintain. Sort of a daily diary of world events.

http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/CALM/showthread.php?t=4101

Calm

I’d really like to have a discussion concerning the question I posed. I’d like to learn something. We don’t need to have it here at this site or within the comment section of this post. Maybe somebody can recommend another place to have it?

I was born in 1948, so I don’t have any guilt about what happened to the Jews during WWII. It makes little difference to me if 1 million died or six million. If the amount of deaths are exagerated, it does not prove anything except the ability of those within the media to manufacture history …. and history has been manufactured since the beginning of time.

I’m more concerned with why it happened. Why were the European’s so much against the Jewish populations within their countries?

Perhaps alot of the European anger towards the Jews was because the Jews held a huge majority of government positions within Stalin’s government and when those government departments organized and carried out a holocaust against the Ukranian’s and Poles?

Perhaps it was because the Jews owned alot of the pawnshops where poor Europeans had to sell their family heirlooms in order to feed their families?

Perhaps it was because the Jews were causing civil unrest inside Germany and were rioting or inciting unrest in the early 1930’s?

Perhaps it was because the Jews had declared a “Holy War” against Germany in 1933, and had demanded the world to boycott German made goods?

Calm

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7492

I’ll leave with one last article which is a perfect example of the of the human spirit powered by truth.

Also, thanks to Kim and Sunil for not censoring me and allowing free speech in everyone’s best interest. They could have easily stifled me, with the sure approval of many and kept their site “clean” and “correct.”
They instead chose to allow honest if unpopulat dialogue and for that I salute them.
Thank you.

http://www.rense.com/general82/game.htm

Just wondering why didn’t consider the mass killing in Iraq as genocide?

Regards

Reading the comments that appear here, it is clear that people prefer to live in a dream world of conspiracy theories and denial than to wake up and smell the shit. Your military has killed well over one million civilians in Iraq since 2003. Live with it.

I cannot believe what I read in comments sections anymore!

The Germans and their collaborators killed nearly two out of every three of 9 million European Jews as part of the “Final Solution”– and Eve (who seems anonymous), does not believe it.

Does she mean to say she thinks 5 million Jews were killed– or 3 million– or one? She doesn’t explain– but saucily declares she doubts Phillips’ figures about Iraq.

Well folks, believe him. And believe that the holocaust was real– and that the Germans had plenty of collaborators– some whose progeny would be running the United States today.

(And thanks Rosemarie for reminding us that plenty perished when Clinton was president.)

How many of these deaths can be justified? I see on a local poster that Madeleine Albright is coming to town. She thinks what Clinton did was justified.

As for me– I see that the forces of evil have almost completely benighted our land– and all these comments are being made futile.

Ignorance and darkness rules.

The 100 Flowers are being plucked from us one by one.

Not too bad for one week. Mission Accomplished!

Those dems are really something. They know how to hide the bodies much better than the repubs do.

Remember the famous quote by Clinton’s cowboy-hat-wearing Secretary of State Albright who thought the deaths of at least 500,000 children at that point was “worth it?”

Get it straight, “progressives:” there’s been one war since 1991, with three phases through three administrations. Let me emphasize that both political parties have been in power since 1991. Did you writers keep the lid on the death toll to help Hillary in the campaign? Will you continue to disguise the war dead for Obama’s sake?

Ex-Attorney General Ramsey Clark was calling what the US was doing in Iraq genocide back in the Nineties. A good hour spent on Internet research will provide a probable total of 3,000,00 Iraqi deaths since 1991. Want the war to stop? Start bringing the reality of this total to the American people.

Jim

The documented Iraqi civilian death is aprx. 90,000, which may be grossly understated but not to the tune of 1+ million off. At your figure cited above a total of aprx. 700-800 Iraqi PER DAY would be dying since war began in 2003.

Folks behave as if civilian death toll in Afghanistan is not a dilemma - but then phony heroes like Denny K. voted YES on that invasion. I say we rid congress of all who voted yes on AUMF in Sep.2002, which began these woes - that leaves us 1 lone congress critter - Barbara Lee who voted no.