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	<title>Comments on: Bertrand Russell on Reading and Understanding History</title>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24848</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24847</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: heike</title>
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		<dc:creator>heike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sehr Geheerter Obersturmfuhrer!

Vielen Danke fur ihr Beitrag zur Endlosung der judische Frage!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sehr Geheerter Obersturmfuhrer!</p>
<p>Vielen Danke fur ihr Beitrag zur Endlosung der judische Frage!</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24755</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point, hp, is that Bertrand Russell was very advanced for the Late  British Empire, and we should at least TRY to stand on the shoulders of giants, not wallow in the madnesses and afflictions of our times.

Israel is bad.  Israel is bad.  There.  Are you happy now?  If so, go  to CounterPunch and read the article about geography and why neither The Chimpmunk nor Israel is likely to attack Iran,  WRITTEN BY AN ISRAELI.  

"On the other hand"?  What, you can do modular arithmatic?  And you think that's mathematics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point, hp, is that Bertrand Russell was very advanced for the Late  British Empire, and we should at least TRY to stand on the shoulders of giants, not wallow in the madnesses and afflictions of our times.</p>
<p>Israel is bad.  Israel is bad.  There.  Are you happy now?  If so, go  to CounterPunch and read the article about geography and why neither The Chimpmunk nor Israel is likely to attack Iran,  WRITTEN BY AN ISRAELI.  </p>
<p>&#8220;On the other hand&#8221;?  What, you can do modular arithmatic?  And you think that&#8217;s mathematics?</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24729</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'd bet my bottom euro he could do 4-3=1 every time, Lloyd.
No secret there.
No confusion there.
No propaganda there.

On the other hand 6-5=6 or 6-4=6 or 6-3=6...... well, that's another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d bet my bottom euro he could do 4-3=1 every time, Lloyd.<br />
No secret there.<br />
No confusion there.<br />
No propaganda there.</p>
<p>On the other hand 6-5=6 or 6-4=6 or 6-3=6&#8230;&#8230; well, that&#8217;s another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24720</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all lies are based on differences in information, ie,  upon secrecy.  Whereas, the "propoganda model" denies the relevance or even the  importance of secrecy.   Although physicists, every day, measure and construct models based on the unknown.  My "secrecy model" on the other hand...

QED

PS.  Regrettably, right after posting the preceding I realized it was not GH Hardy, of the blackboard-obviously story.  It was an American mathematician famous for his public drunkeness, who helped bring "rigour" from German mathematics to America regarding infinite sets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all lies are based on differences in information, ie,  upon secrecy.  Whereas, the &#8220;propoganda model&#8221; denies the relevance or even the  importance of secrecy.   Although physicists, every day, measure and construct models based on the unknown.  My &#8220;secrecy model&#8221; on the other hand&#8230;</p>
<p>QED</p>
<p>PS.  Regrettably, right after posting the preceding I realized it was not GH Hardy, of the blackboard-obviously story.  It was an American mathematician famous for his public drunkeness, who helped bring &#8220;rigour&#8221; from German mathematics to America regarding infinite sets.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd, even more obvious is an erased blackboard.

The bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe.
People are funny that way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd, even more obvious is an erased blackboard.</p>
<p>The bigger the lie, the easier it is to believe.<br />
People are funny that way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mathematicians and lovers of mathematics will appreciate this book review without having read it closely, and I am a member of that set.  Thank you, Thomas Riggens.  Also, anyone who loves deeply intelligent quotations, from an era and country that also gave us George Bernard Shaw (and only a couple of centuries before, Alexander Pope).  In fact, Lord Russell was, like JBS Haldane, a rationalist socialist mathematician-scientist whom no one could accuse of being stupid, in a time and place gone stupid mad.  Somewhat like our time, since   Russell and Haldane blossomed in Europe before, during and after World War I.

But I especially want to thank you Mr. Riggins for personal reasons.  I more-or-less gave up writing book reviews after 9/11/2001 -- radical, even communist book reviews.  Reviews of books written before 9/11.  Because when I tried to see them in print (other than at Amazon.com), I discovered that radical America, like neocon America, thinks history began with 9/11.  And this failure get my reviews read has been a source of great anger as well as continuing resentment and chagrin on my part.   Considering myself to be "a writer" - as I do - and not being able to get read the very writings I'm most proud of.

Thank you, thank you very much.

And hp.  You mention an "obvious" and ongoing criminal lie.  There's a story about GH Hardy lecturing to a small class of students, and chalking up a line in the proof he was writing on the blackboard, and saying, "This follows obviously."  Then Hardy stepped away from the board and looked at the line; thought for a while; left the room for twenty minutes or so; (going into an adjacent, unoccupied room and scribbling furiously on its blackboard); and came back and said to his students, "Yes, that's obvious."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathematicians and lovers of mathematics will appreciate this book review without having read it closely, and I am a member of that set.  Thank you, Thomas Riggens.  Also, anyone who loves deeply intelligent quotations, from an era and country that also gave us George Bernard Shaw (and only a couple of centuries before, Alexander Pope).  In fact, Lord Russell was, like JBS Haldane, a rationalist socialist mathematician-scientist whom no one could accuse of being stupid, in a time and place gone stupid mad.  Somewhat like our time, since   Russell and Haldane blossomed in Europe before, during and after World War I.</p>
<p>But I especially want to thank you Mr. Riggins for personal reasons.  I more-or-less gave up writing book reviews after 9/11/2001 &#8212; radical, even communist book reviews.  Reviews of books written before 9/11.  Because when I tried to see them in print (other than at Amazon.com), I discovered that radical America, like neocon America, thinks history began with 9/11.  And this failure get my reviews read has been a source of great anger as well as continuing resentment and chagrin on my part.   Considering myself to be &#8220;a writer&#8221; - as I do - and not being able to get read the very writings I&#8217;m most proud of.</p>
<p>Thank you, thank you very much.</p>
<p>And hp.  You mention an &#8220;obvious&#8221; and ongoing criminal lie.  There&#8217;s a story about GH Hardy lecturing to a small class of students, and chalking up a line in the proof he was writing on the blackboard, and saying, &#8220;This follows obviously.&#8221;  Then Hardy stepped away from the board and looked at the line; thought for a while; left the room for twenty minutes or so; (going into an adjacent, unoccupied room and scribbling furiously on its blackboard); and came back and said to his students, &#8220;Yes, that&#8217;s obvious.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The usual response to 4-3=1.
The only time the sacred six million doesn't matter.
When anyone points out that it is an obvious and ongoing criminal lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The usual response to 4-3=1.<br />
The only time the sacred six million doesn&#8217;t matter.<br />
When anyone points out that it is an obvious and ongoing criminal lie.</p>
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		<title>By: JN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP, you are a lying, deluded, anti-semitic ideologue fool &#38; an apologist for Nazism.

Yes, the Israeli government, politicians &#38; IDF exploit the Holocaust to justify their own crimes against the Palestinians &#38; Lebanese,
&#38; yes, there is a 'Holocaust industry' in the US &#38; Europe.
But to deny that it happened is absurd. 

Your evidence is a joke: internet articles referring to the 'Prussian blue' theory, David Irving, Niall Ferguson (an advocate of US/UK imperialism &#38; an excuse for a historian) &#38; other such bullshit. 

&#38; of course, like any good apologist, you play the numbers game. How many people were murdered in Rwanda in 1994? How many starved to death in Mao's 'Great Leap Forward?' How many have been slaughtered in Afghanistan &#38; Iraq? There's always someone who'll argue that the figure is too high (usually on the basis of dubious evidence or none), as if that excuses mass-murder.

Your supposed revelations are statements of the blindingly obvious, blatant distortions or lies. No, there were no gas chambers in Dachau; who said that there were? It is common knowledge that the extermination camps were set up in Poland.  People died in concentration &#38; labour camps in Germany itself, not from gassing but by being shot, tortured or worked/starved to death.

The documented TRUTH is that the Nazi regime killed millions of PEOPLE: Jews, Roma, Poles, Slavs, Communists/Socialists, other political prisoners, Soviet POWs &#38; many others. How anyone in their right mind could seriously deny that is a mystery to me.

By coming out with this sort of crap, all you are doing is serving the interests of the Israeli government &#38; the Israel lobby, making their reflexive response (labelling legitimate critiscism of Israeli agression as anti-semitism) seem more plausible. That is, you're giving the rest of us a bad name, in the same way that apologists for Stalin &#38; Mao give Communism a bad name (Stalin &#38; Mao were not Communist in any meaningful sense, although they may have sincerely believed that they were).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP, you are a lying, deluded, anti-semitic ideologue fool &amp; an apologist for Nazism.</p>
<p>Yes, the Israeli government, politicians &amp; IDF exploit the Holocaust to justify their own crimes against the Palestinians &amp; Lebanese,<br />
&amp; yes, there is a &#8216;Holocaust industry&#8217; in the US &amp; Europe.<br />
But to deny that it happened is absurd. </p>
<p>Your evidence is a joke: internet articles referring to the &#8216;Prussian blue&#8217; theory, David Irving, Niall Ferguson (an advocate of US/UK imperialism &amp; an excuse for a historian) &amp; other such bullshit. </p>
<p>&amp; of course, like any good apologist, you play the numbers game. How many people were murdered in Rwanda in 1994? How many starved to death in Mao&#8217;s &#8216;Great Leap Forward?&#8217; How many have been slaughtered in Afghanistan &amp; Iraq? There&#8217;s always someone who&#8217;ll argue that the figure is too high (usually on the basis of dubious evidence or none), as if that excuses mass-murder.</p>
<p>Your supposed revelations are statements of the blindingly obvious, blatant distortions or lies. No, there were no gas chambers in Dachau; who said that there were? It is common knowledge that the extermination camps were set up in Poland.  People died in concentration &amp; labour camps in Germany itself, not from gassing but by being shot, tortured or worked/starved to death.</p>
<p>The documented TRUTH is that the Nazi regime killed millions of PEOPLE: Jews, Roma, Poles, Slavs, Communists/Socialists, other political prisoners, Soviet POWs &amp; many others. How anyone in their right mind could seriously deny that is a mystery to me.</p>
<p>By coming out with this sort of crap, all you are doing is serving the interests of the Israeli government &amp; the Israel lobby, making their reflexive response (labelling legitimate critiscism of Israeli agression as anti-semitism) seem more plausible. That is, you&#8217;re giving the rest of us a bad name, in the same way that apologists for Stalin &amp; Mao give Communism a bad name (Stalin &amp; Mao were not Communist in any meaningful sense, although they may have sincerely believed that they were).</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24670</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I'm saying the so-called "death camps" are a made up bunch of bullshit.
At a minimum proof that four million did not die at Auschwitz, the un-holy grail of the holocaust fairy tale industry.
There it is, carved in stone, in living color.  No four million means no six million, the lying mantra which makes the un-holy machine run.
Six million, six million, six million, six million, six million, six million.
Every fucking day for fifty years. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie.
Once people know this and say this, it will eliminate the eternal extortions and excuses for CONTINUED inhuman behavior by these psychopathic miscreants.

Can you say HOLMODOR?  A REAL holocaust, not a fake one.
The Ukraine. 
And perpetrated by who?
Yes, the "usual suspects."  
The greatest mass murdering psychopaths in history.
These monsters make Hitler look like a featherweight.
 Stalin. Yagoda. Kaganovich. Yezhov.

"This “holocaust remembrance” recalls the murder by forced starvation of *6 million* Ukrainian Christians by the Jewish Bolsheviks. The Ukrainians call this holocaust “Holodomor” which means “Famine-Genocide.” Of course the Zionist Jews deny it. Just like they deny all of their numerous crimes against humanity.  

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;m saying the so-called &#8220;death camps&#8221; are a made up bunch of bullshit.<br />
At a minimum proof that four million did not die at Auschwitz, the un-holy grail of the holocaust fairy tale industry.<br />
There it is, carved in stone, in living color.  No four million means no six million, the lying mantra which makes the un-holy machine run.<br />
Six million, six million, six million, six million, six million, six million.<br />
Every fucking day for fifty years. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie.<br />
Once people know this and say this, it will eliminate the eternal extortions and excuses for CONTINUED inhuman behavior by these psychopathic miscreants.</p>
<p>Can you say HOLMODOR?  A REAL holocaust, not a fake one.<br />
The Ukraine.<br />
And perpetrated by who?<br />
Yes, the &#8220;usual suspects.&#8221;<br />
The greatest mass murdering psychopaths in history.<br />
These monsters make Hitler look like a featherweight.<br />
 Stalin. Yagoda. Kaganovich. Yezhov.</p>
<p>&#8220;This “holocaust remembrance” recalls the murder by forced starvation of *6 million* Ukrainian Christians by the Jewish Bolsheviks. The Ukrainians call this holocaust “Holodomor” which means “Famine-Genocide.” Of course the Zionist Jews deny it. Just like they deny all of their numerous crimes against humanity.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hp,
 i have stated that i no longer evaluate as true that 4-6mn ashkenazim were slain.
in any case, no jews perished in europe; there  were at one time  jews in spain/portugal
expelled in 1492 and settled in bosnia or ottoman empire. ottomans respected religions. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hp,<br />
 i have stated that i no longer evaluate as true that 4-6mn ashkenazim were slain.<br />
in any case, no jews perished in europe; there  were at one time  jews in spain/portugal<br />
expelled in 1492 and settled in bosnia or ottoman empire. ottomans respected religions. thank u</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24636</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's how much the sacred memory of the 'Shoah" means to the Prime Minister of Israel. Hmmmmm.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07122008/news/worldnews/olmerts_100g_fraud_119526.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how much the sacred memory of the &#8216;Shoah&#8221; means to the Prime Minister of Israel. Hmmmmm.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/07122008/news/worldnews/olmerts_100g_fraud_119526.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/07122008/news/worldnews/olmerts_100g_fraud_119526.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24620</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"In Canada and Western Europe, Holocaust deniers have been successfully prosecuted under racial defamation or hate crimes laws."

"In Canada, as in Germany, revisionists are deprived of the right to defend themselves. In those countries, when a man accused of revisionism stands before a judge, the latter begins, in line with the routine, by having him swear to tell the truth. But if, in the following minute, the accused says, for example: "I affirm that the alleged Nazi gas chambers did not exist because the truth - which I can well demonstrate - is that they could not exist", the judge will interrupt him immediately. The Canadian judge will tell him: "Before this special court [christened 'Human rights tribunal'] truth is no defence"

Did all you Canadians get that? Loud and clear. Your own country, your own judge. "TRUTH IS NO DEFENSE."

Canada is not free.
Canada is Zionist occupied.
What more proof do you need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Canada and Western Europe, Holocaust deniers have been successfully prosecuted under racial defamation or hate crimes laws.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In Canada, as in Germany, revisionists are deprived of the right to defend themselves. In those countries, when a man accused of revisionism stands before a judge, the latter begins, in line with the routine, by having him swear to tell the truth. But if, in the following minute, the accused says, for example: &#8220;I affirm that the alleged Nazi gas chambers did not exist because the truth - which I can well demonstrate - is that they could not exist&#8221;, the judge will interrupt him immediately. The Canadian judge will tell him: &#8220;Before this special court [christened 'Human rights tribunal'] truth is no defence&#8221;</p>
<p>Did all you Canadians get that? Loud and clear. Your own country, your own judge. &#8220;TRUTH IS NO DEFENSE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Canada is not free.<br />
Canada is Zionist occupied.<br />
What more proof do you need?</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24618</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tennessee, not being called a Nazi is enough for me. I am not a Nazi.

You have a point though. Even though  Simon Wiesenthal says it himself, so-called intellectuals and academics will still scream and gnash their teeth over a lie. 
There were no fairy tale gas chambers at Dachau, you morons.

Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no extermination camps on German soil"?
    Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 

'In a letter published in a January issue of The Stars and Stripes, a newspaper for US military service personnel, Simon Wiesenthal re-confirmed, in passing, that "there were no extermination camps on German soil" during the Second World War. He made the identical statement in a letter published in the April 1975 issue of the British periodical Books and Bookmen."

"If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an extermination camp?
    After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a "gassing" camp. "</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tennessee, not being called a Nazi is enough for me. I am not a Nazi.</p>
<p>You have a point though. Even though  Simon Wiesenthal says it himself, so-called intellectuals and academics will still scream and gnash their teeth over a lie.<br />
There were no fairy tale gas chambers at Dachau, you morons.</p>
<p>Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that &#8220;there were no extermination camps on German soil&#8221;?<br />
    Yes. The famous &#8220;Nazi hunter&#8221; wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that &#8220;gassings&#8221; of Jews took place only in Poland. </p>
<p>&#8216;In a letter published in a January issue of The Stars and Stripes, a newspaper for US military service personnel, Simon Wiesenthal re-confirmed, in passing, that &#8220;there were no extermination camps on German soil&#8221; during the Second World War. He made the identical statement in a letter published in the April 1975 issue of the British periodical Books and Bookmen.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an extermination camp?<br />
    After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a &#8220;gas chamber.&#8221; The mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a &#8220;gassing&#8221; camp. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hp: Because truth, science and books are dead in USA. Haven't you noticed that USA is not big on book-fairs.  Books are are despised in totalitarian regimes.  Book-reading, science, documents, statistics, facts and truths are things that are despised in America.  If you tell an American citizen that according to economic statistics 1% of America is stealing 90% of America's wealth, they will laugh at you.  They'd tell you: "Move to Cuba" 

So we have a society of confusion, based on metaphysics, "trust" and authorities, but not on evidence-based truths</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hp: Because truth, science and books are dead in USA. Haven&#8217;t you noticed that USA is not big on book-fairs.  Books are are despised in totalitarian regimes.  Book-reading, science, documents, statistics, facts and truths are things that are despised in America.  If you tell an American citizen that according to economic statistics 1% of America is stealing 90% of America&#8217;s wealth, they will laugh at you.  They&#8217;d tell you: &#8220;Move to Cuba&#8221; </p>
<p>So we have a society of confusion, based on metaphysics, &#8220;trust&#8221; and authorities, but not on evidence-based truths</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's another million or so right off the top.
Science and math do not lie. 
The Treblinka liars do lie. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0liiwoqocAo#

http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/treblinka-lie.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another million or so right off the top.<br />
Science and math do not lie.<br />
The Treblinka liars do lie. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0liiwoqocAo#" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0liiwoqocAo#</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/treblinka-lie.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ety.com/HRP/rev/treblinka-lie.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/bertrand-russell-on-reading-and-understanding-history/#comment-24599</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the last proof I'll offer and then you all can believe it or not.
What this is is another million right off the top.
That's three million "missing" from Auschwitz and now one mllion "missing" from Treblinka.
Where I'm from, that's four million "missing" victims. Poof! 

But if I scream at you 365 days of the year for forty or fifty years, make fools out of those who differ, ruin their lives, jail others where possible, even while offering no proof, and lie over and over and over and over again, well, you get the picture. Actually, you get everything BUT the picture, the proof, documents or anything but TV shows, movies and talk, talk, talk, from "eye witnesses" like Elie, already a proven liar and huckster, Weasel. 
And you think you're a rational, sensible, compassionate modern person?
     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCwpjsS-6H4#

http://www.nafcash.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the last proof I&#8217;ll offer and then you all can believe it or not.<br />
What this is is another million right off the top.<br />
That&#8217;s three million &#8220;missing&#8221; from Auschwitz and now one mllion &#8220;missing&#8221; from Treblinka.<br />
Where I&#8217;m from, that&#8217;s four million &#8220;missing&#8221; victims. Poof! </p>
<p>But if I scream at you 365 days of the year for forty or fifty years, make fools out of those who differ, ruin their lives, jail others where possible, even while offering no proof, and lie over and over and over and over again, well, you get the picture. Actually, you get everything BUT the picture, the proof, documents or anything but TV shows, movies and talk, talk, talk, from &#8220;eye witnesses&#8221; like Elie, already a proven liar and huckster, Weasel.<br />
And you think you&#8217;re a rational, sensible, compassionate modern person?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCwpjsS-6H4#" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCwpjsS-6H4#</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nafcash.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nafcash.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever they were bozhidar, there certainly were not four million of them 'gassed' at Auschwitz. 
Above is proof in color, black and white, official documents and reports.
Why then do they still insist, to the point of putting people in prison that six million were killed?
It's bullshit and I for one am sick of it.
One of, if not THE biggest lie in history.
Here it is again. Today. 
Look at the number. The insistance.
It's insanity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/2288240/German-Jews-angry-that-citizenship-test-ignores-Holocaust.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever they were bozhidar, there certainly were not four million of them &#8216;gassed&#8217; at Auschwitz.<br />
Above is proof in color, black and white, official documents and reports.<br />
Why then do they still insist, to the point of putting people in prison that six million were killed?<br />
It&#8217;s bullshit and I for one am sick of it.<br />
One of, if not THE biggest lie in history.<br />
Here it is again. Today.<br />
Look at the number. The insistance.<br />
It&#8217;s insanity.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/2288240/German-Jews-angry-that-citizenship-test-ignores-Holocaust.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/2288240/German-Jews-angry-that-citizenship-test-ignores-Holocaust.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at one time and long ago i accepted as true that 4-6mn jews perished in europe in 1940s.
meanwhile i have learned that that there  were no jews/semites in europe.
the people in question  r  an admixture of  europeans mainly w. little or no semitic genes.
it even may be that most of those people who were slain were poles, romas, russians, gays, socialists/communists.
ashkenazim, having lotsof money fled to americas.
and as HP maintains have a big influence in US politics. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at one time and long ago i accepted as true that 4-6mn jews perished in europe in 1940s.<br />
meanwhile i have learned that that there  were no jews/semites in europe.<br />
the people in question  r  an admixture of  europeans mainly w. little or no semitic genes.<br />
it even may be that most of those people who were slain were poles, romas, russians, gays, socialists/communists.<br />
ashkenazim, having lotsof money fled to americas.<br />
and as HP maintains have a big influence in US politics. thank u</p>
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