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		<title>By: meshuga mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22807</link>
		<dc:creator>meshuga mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm voting for CHE...</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Huddle</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22349</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Huddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the range of responses to this piece, its clear that electoralism is the opiate of the masses.  Every four years we get to deaden the pain.  One question, though Josh:  does it really matter if Nader is right on the issues if he's doing nothing to build a party apparatus that might one day bring about change?  I admire the man but for Christ's sakes, these presidential runs are just about the most expensive vanity projects ever undertaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the range of responses to this piece, its clear that electoralism is the opiate of the masses.  Every four years we get to deaden the pain.  One question, though Josh:  does it really matter if Nader is right on the issues if he&#8217;s doing nothing to build a party apparatus that might one day bring about change?  I admire the man but for Christ&#8217;s sakes, these presidential runs are just about the most expensive vanity projects ever undertaken.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22213</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>voted for Nader in 2000 and I've regretted it ever since. I felt the same way the author of this post felt, that Gore was too much of the same and I needed to vote on principles. So I voted for Nader, campaigned for him and even convinced friends in Ohio (and yes I admit 1 friend in Florida) to vote for Nader...Then Bush got elected by a narrow margin, screwed our country, destroyed our economy and led us into a war which has resulted in the death of many americans.... Practically every time I hear the news I regret my Nader vote, and I wish people like me had voted for Gore instead, because our country would be in a much better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>voted for Nader in 2000 and I&#8217;ve regretted it ever since. I felt the same way the author of this post felt, that Gore was too much of the same and I needed to vote on principles. So I voted for Nader, campaigned for him and even convinced friends in Ohio (and yes I admit 1 friend in Florida) to vote for Nader&#8230;Then Bush got elected by a narrow margin, screwed our country, destroyed our economy and led us into a war which has resulted in the death of many americans&#8230;. Practically every time I hear the news I regret my Nader vote, and I wish people like me had voted for Gore instead, because our country would be in a much better place.</p>
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		<title>By: igorsway</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22209</link>
		<dc:creator>igorsway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the recent split on the Supreme Court over the Habeas Corpus decision.  Our civil rights protections are hanging by a very narrow thread.   A McCain presidency will probably overturn many basic rights.

Whether or not you are thrilled by your choices in this election, the fact is that Barack Obama must be elected to at least retain the rights and protections we now enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the recent split on the Supreme Court over the Habeas Corpus decision.  Our civil rights protections are hanging by a very narrow thread.   A McCain presidency will probably overturn many basic rights.</p>
<p>Whether or not you are thrilled by your choices in this election, the fact is that Barack Obama must be elected to at least retain the rights and protections we now enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22190</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm voting for the Socialist Party candidate, Brian Moore, for real change.</description>
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		<title>By: Keesha</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22189</link>
		<dc:creator>Keesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricardo, I don't recall you calling out a sexist comment.  Now you're offended?

"Plus, the Democrats have pandered to the black race thereby polarizing a country and hurting the cause against racism. " -- was posted by some man running for the presidency.  If you're offended by it, then you know you don't need to vote for him.  However, the reality is Barack Obama was a so-so candidate outside the pages of The Nation magazine and needed to win South Carolina to keep his race (political) alive.  So Barack used homophobia (which you don't say one word about) as a campaign tool and also used false charges of racism.  Is that what the man was referring to?  I don't know.  But I do know I saw the usual "Racist!" cries repeated by friends and family and I would have to go through it patiently.  "Fairy tale!" not racist.  Bill Clinton was pointing out Barack had been all over the map publicly on Iraq and was now pretending he'd had one position and stuck to it.  I had to go through each of those false charges over and over.  That wasn't about the White community, it was knowing that when you cry "racism" -- falsely or correctly -- it stirs up immediate anger because we do live in a racist society.  The Huffington Post published the campaign's talking points on that sent out to the press.  The ones that didn't exist, to hear the Obama campaign.  Barack even got confronted on it in a debate and had to try to weasel out of it.  There was no racism used by the Clinton campaign.  Barack has used pot and cocaine.  He had no problem mentioning it in books or making jokes about it on The Tonight Show.  Suddenly, anyone else mentions it and it's racism?  Was it racism in 1992 to note Bill Clinton's admission of pot?  When the BET president mentioned it, the Barack campaign couldn't scream racism the way they did when the White guy mentioned it so instead it was attack BET.  Surrogates like Jesse Jackson Jr. and Melissa Harris Lacewell went on Black radio and stated things that even in their worst lying on Charlie Rose and Democracy Now they didn't dare say.  But to a Black audience they lied like crazy.  To a mixed audience, Melissa's biggest lie was probably on Charlie Rose where she didn't tell people she was working on the campaign, didn't belong a journalism roundtable (she's not a journalist) and felt the need to tell the White world that some Black people had turned against Tavis Smiley.  She played 'objective' on that by not telling the White world she launched the attack on Tavis with her own online column "Who died and made Tavis king?"  The candidate speaking of "pandering" was speaking of the DNC.  This Black woman will state it outright, the Barack campaign pandered.  They were hoping to create a response and they got it.

"Oreo cookie"?  That shows up here, "It’s high time we made U.S. imperialist war crimes an equal opportunity endeavor. What we need is an Oreo cookie in the white house. Go Uncle Tom Obama!"  I don't know why Oreo cookie was used.  But Barack's not Black, he's bi-racial.  Years ago, 1/8 Black meant you were called "octoroon" and we supposedly and thankfully moved past that.  Barack had a White mother and a Black father.  He's not Black.  That may be what "oreo cookie" is getting at.  But Barack's not Black and I didn't take offense at the comment.  Those are two comments out of 31.  You're whining about how it's not  "a pissing contest."  But you refuse to address the sexism and you don't even acknowledge Barack's use of  homophobia.  
What I have seen over and over in the last months is false charges of racism by Barack's campaign.  And when anyone points out his homophobia, everyone looks the other way and acts mute.  When someone tries to start a conversation on the very real issue of sexism, efforts are made to shout down that discussion and then claim it's not a contest.  Then why do discussions on sexism keep getting shouted down?  Sharon Smith's insulting post here didn't impress this Black woman and I've yet to see a single post that addressed the sexism in the campaign while every Cracker in the world has shown up with a "It's racism!" post.  I'ma  Black woman and don't need to prove how 'real' I am. If I see racism, I'll call it  out, if I see sexism I'll call it out and if I see homophobia I'll call it out.  I think it's past time we start asking that others do the same.
If you missed it, Barack cried "racism" falsely again and just demonstrated all over again that he's not Black.  Betty pointed it out wonderfully:
http://thomasfriedmanisagreatman.blogspot.com/2008/06/pack-it-in-ms-magazine-youre-pathetic.html
"Babys mama" hasn't referred just to unmarried mothers in some time.  But no need to know about that for the out of touch Crackers so quick to advance the 'poor suffering Barack' meme.  Betty highlights a 2006 article on the term changing but makes the point strongest by citing Prince who is heavy in his no-sex-outside-of-marriage period these days and just used the term in a song.  Cracker may be offensive and I wouldn't call someone that to their face but these White media 'leaders' are getting on my last nerve these days with their false cries of racism.  It's not helping the Black community and neither is Barack who has offered us nothing but wants us to all rally behind him because, though a corporatist Democrat, he had a Black father.  At this point, Barack's become the little boy who's cried wolf (racism) over and over and when he really faces it, a lot of us won't believe him because he's screamed it at everything.  (He is his campaign and he's responsible for what they do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricardo, I don&#8217;t recall you calling out a sexist comment.  Now you&#8217;re offended?</p>
<p>&#8220;Plus, the Democrats have pandered to the black race thereby polarizing a country and hurting the cause against racism. &#8221; &#8212; was posted by some man running for the presidency.  If you&#8217;re offended by it, then you know you don&#8217;t need to vote for him.  However, the reality is Barack Obama was a so-so candidate outside the pages of The Nation magazine and needed to win South Carolina to keep his race (political) alive.  So Barack used homophobia (which you don&#8217;t say one word about) as a campaign tool and also used false charges of racism.  Is that what the man was referring to?  I don&#8217;t know.  But I do know I saw the usual &#8220;Racist!&#8221; cries repeated by friends and family and I would have to go through it patiently.  &#8220;Fairy tale!&#8221; not racist.  Bill Clinton was pointing out Barack had been all over the map publicly on Iraq and was now pretending he&#8217;d had one position and stuck to it.  I had to go through each of those false charges over and over.  That wasn&#8217;t about the White community, it was knowing that when you cry &#8220;racism&#8221; &#8212; falsely or correctly &#8212; it stirs up immediate anger because we do live in a racist society.  The Huffington Post published the campaign&#8217;s talking points on that sent out to the press.  The ones that didn&#8217;t exist, to hear the Obama campaign.  Barack even got confronted on it in a debate and had to try to weasel out of it.  There was no racism used by the Clinton campaign.  Barack has used pot and cocaine.  He had no problem mentioning it in books or making jokes about it on The Tonight Show.  Suddenly, anyone else mentions it and it&#8217;s racism?  Was it racism in 1992 to note Bill Clinton&#8217;s admission of pot?  When the BET president mentioned it, the Barack campaign couldn&#8217;t scream racism the way they did when the White guy mentioned it so instead it was attack BET.  Surrogates like Jesse Jackson Jr. and Melissa Harris Lacewell went on Black radio and stated things that even in their worst lying on Charlie Rose and Democracy Now they didn&#8217;t dare say.  But to a Black audience they lied like crazy.  To a mixed audience, Melissa&#8217;s biggest lie was probably on Charlie Rose where she didn&#8217;t tell people she was working on the campaign, didn&#8217;t belong a journalism roundtable (she&#8217;s not a journalist) and felt the need to tell the White world that some Black people had turned against Tavis Smiley.  She played &#8216;objective&#8217; on that by not telling the White world she launched the attack on Tavis with her own online column &#8220;Who died and made Tavis king?&#8221;  The candidate speaking of &#8220;pandering&#8221; was speaking of the DNC.  This Black woman will state it outright, the Barack campaign pandered.  They were hoping to create a response and they got it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Oreo cookie&#8221;?  That shows up here, &#8220;It’s high time we made U.S. imperialist war crimes an equal opportunity endeavor. What we need is an Oreo cookie in the white house. Go Uncle Tom Obama!&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know why Oreo cookie was used.  But Barack&#8217;s not Black, he&#8217;s bi-racial.  Years ago, 1/8 Black meant you were called &#8220;octoroon&#8221; and we supposedly and thankfully moved past that.  Barack had a White mother and a Black father.  He&#8217;s not Black.  That may be what &#8220;oreo cookie&#8221; is getting at.  But Barack&#8217;s not Black and I didn&#8217;t take offense at the comment.  Those are two comments out of 31.  You&#8217;re whining about how it&#8217;s not  &#8220;a pissing contest.&#8221;  But you refuse to address the sexism and you don&#8217;t even acknowledge Barack&#8217;s use of  homophobia.<br />
What I have seen over and over in the last months is false charges of racism by Barack&#8217;s campaign.  And when anyone points out his homophobia, everyone looks the other way and acts mute.  When someone tries to start a conversation on the very real issue of sexism, efforts are made to shout down that discussion and then claim it&#8217;s not a contest.  Then why do discussions on sexism keep getting shouted down?  Sharon Smith&#8217;s insulting post here didn&#8217;t impress this Black woman and I&#8217;ve yet to see a single post that addressed the sexism in the campaign while every Cracker in the world has shown up with a &#8220;It&#8217;s racism!&#8221; post.  I&#8217;ma  Black woman and don&#8217;t need to prove how &#8216;real&#8217; I am. If I see racism, I&#8217;ll call it  out, if I see sexism I&#8217;ll call it out and if I see homophobia I&#8217;ll call it out.  I think it&#8217;s past time we start asking that others do the same.<br />
If you missed it, Barack cried &#8220;racism&#8221; falsely again and just demonstrated all over again that he&#8217;s not Black.  Betty pointed it out wonderfully:<br />
<a href="http://thomasfriedmanisagreatman.blogspot.com/2008/06/pack-it-in-ms-magazine-youre-pathetic.html" rel="nofollow">http://thomasfriedmanisagreatman.blogspot.com/2008/06/pack-it-in-ms-magazine-youre-pathetic.html</a><br />
&#8220;Babys mama&#8221; hasn&#8217;t referred just to unmarried mothers in some time.  But no need to know about that for the out of touch Crackers so quick to advance the &#8216;poor suffering Barack&#8217; meme.  Betty highlights a 2006 article on the term changing but makes the point strongest by citing Prince who is heavy in his no-sex-outside-of-marriage period these days and just used the term in a song.  Cracker may be offensive and I wouldn&#8217;t call someone that to their face but these White media &#8216;leaders&#8217; are getting on my last nerve these days with their false cries of racism.  It&#8217;s not helping the Black community and neither is Barack who has offered us nothing but wants us to all rally behind him because, though a corporatist Democrat, he had a Black father.  At this point, Barack&#8217;s become the little boy who&#8217;s cried wolf (racism) over and over and when he really faces it, a lot of us won&#8217;t believe him because he&#8217;s screamed it at everything.  (He is his campaign and he&#8217;s responsible for what they do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  America is more sexist than racist?  Is no one picking up on the "pandered to the black race" and "oreo cookie" comments sprinkled throughout this thread?  Seriously, no one is taking issue with these comments?

And when did oppression become a pissing contest?  Last time I checked it pretty much sucked for all parties involved.

Are you guys just pretending to be progressive?  You're having me on, right?  "Pandered to the black race."  Good god....

Vote for Nader, by all means, or vote socialist, by all means, but try not to sound like an ass while doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  America is more sexist than racist?  Is no one picking up on the &#8220;pandered to the black race&#8221; and &#8220;oreo cookie&#8221; comments sprinkled throughout this thread?  Seriously, no one is taking issue with these comments?</p>
<p>And when did oppression become a pissing contest?  Last time I checked it pretty much sucked for all parties involved.</p>
<p>Are you guys just pretending to be progressive?  You&#8217;re having me on, right?  &#8220;Pandered to the black race.&#8221;  Good god&#8230;.</p>
<p>Vote for Nader, by all means, or vote socialist, by all means, but try not to sound like an ass while doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Pell</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22156</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Pell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your enemy and oppressor (the federal government)  will not free you / save you.</description>
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		<title>By: Edwin Pell</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22155</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Pell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am writing in Ron Paul and I am happy. It does not matter which branch of the war party wins (dem or repub).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am writing in Ron Paul and I am happy. It does not matter which branch of the war party wins (dem or repub).</p>
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		<title>By: A Rare Non-Moron</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22077</link>
		<dc:creator>A Rare Non-Moron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless Ralph Nader: If he wasn't on the ballot, who would represent white lefty know-nothings who've never worked a day in their lives?</description>
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		<title>By: gliscameria</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22074</link>
		<dc:creator>gliscameria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama also supports joining an EU treaty in which member countries have to ban small arms.  So kiss your guns goodbye.</description>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22050</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something you don't see mentioned much, if at all, is Obama's father and the psychological and genetic influence he may have on our possible POTUS.
In this case, let's hope the old adage "like father, like son," doesn't apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something you don&#8217;t see mentioned much, if at all, is Obama&#8217;s father and the psychological and genetic influence he may have on our possible POTUS.<br />
In this case, let&#8217;s hope the old adage &#8220;like father, like son,&#8221; doesn&#8217;t apply.</p>
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		<title>By: J McBeal</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22048</link>
		<dc:creator>J McBeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eight years ago the voting machines were hacked and Bush was appointed Prez. Four years ago the voting machines were hacked and Bush won. It doesn't matter who you vote for as long as these voting machines continue to be used and programed by the powers behind the white house. We will go to war in Iran within the next two months, we will have serious food shortages, severe economic crisis, and problems from man-made (HAARP) earth changes. We will cry to the government (Nanny State) to ease the pain the powers-that-be created in the first place. We will give up more freedoms and accept the "help" they offer - world bank, spy chips, national ID, etc and become slaves to keep living in the style we've become accustomed. The only way out is to march on Washington, refuse the lies and deceit. Stock up food and water, guns and ammo, and prepare for the world to end as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eight years ago the voting machines were hacked and Bush was appointed Prez. Four years ago the voting machines were hacked and Bush won. It doesn&#8217;t matter who you vote for as long as these voting machines continue to be used and programed by the powers behind the white house. We will go to war in Iran within the next two months, we will have serious food shortages, severe economic crisis, and problems from man-made (HAARP) earth changes. We will cry to the government (Nanny State) to ease the pain the powers-that-be created in the first place. We will give up more freedoms and accept the &#8220;help&#8221; they offer - world bank, spy chips, national ID, etc and become slaves to keep living in the style we&#8217;ve become accustomed. The only way out is to march on Washington, refuse the lies and deceit. Stock up food and water, guns and ammo, and prepare for the world to end as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles Hoenig</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22044</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles Hoenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who still rely on the old canard that Nader took votes away from Gore should look inward for where the real problems eminate.  As Max said,  "more Dems voted for Bush than Nader" (esp. in Florida), the real issue is that anti-Naderites are in reality anti-voter.  If a candidate cannot earn a vote, s/he should not get it. Unless people believe that one political party or another owns a person's vote, one should vote for who you believe best fits your values. 
Voting for the lesser of the 2 evils (Obama vs McCain) is still voting for evil.  All who vote for Obama better just shut up for the next 4-8 years because all the problems we will have will be your fault- for continuing electing people who do not share YOUR real vision and hopes.

Furthermore, SCOTUS?  It was the Democratic leadership that gave us Alito and Roberts.  Sorry, but Ralphie didn't have a vote.  Better re-read that section in your Civics book as to who appoints and who votes for such nominations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who still rely on the old canard that Nader took votes away from Gore should look inward for where the real problems eminate.  As Max said,  &#8220;more Dems voted for Bush than Nader&#8221; (esp. in Florida), the real issue is that anti-Naderites are in reality anti-voter.  If a candidate cannot earn a vote, s/he should not get it. Unless people believe that one political party or another owns a person&#8217;s vote, one should vote for who you believe best fits your values.<br />
Voting for the lesser of the 2 evils (Obama vs McCain) is still voting for evil.  All who vote for Obama better just shut up for the next 4-8 years because all the problems we will have will be your fault- for continuing electing people who do not share YOUR real vision and hopes.</p>
<p>Furthermore, SCOTUS?  It was the Democratic leadership that gave us Alito and Roberts.  Sorry, but Ralphie didn&#8217;t have a vote.  Better re-read that section in your Civics book as to who appoints and who votes for such nominations.</p>
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		<title>By: Myles Hoenig</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22041</link>
		<dc:creator>Myles Hoenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who still rely on the old canard that Nader took votes away from Gore should look inward for where the real problems eminate.  As Max said,  "more Dems voted for Bush than Nader" (esp. in Florida) the real issue is that anti-Naderites are in reality anti-voter.  If a candidate cannot earn a vote, s/he should not get it. Unless people believe that one political party or another owns a person's vote, then just vote who you believe best fits your values. 
Voting for the lesser of the 2 evils (Obama vs McCain) is still voting for evil.  All who vote for Obama better just shut up for the next 4-8 years because all the problems we will have will be your fault- for continuing electing people who do not share YOUR real vision and hopes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who still rely on the old canard that Nader took votes away from Gore should look inward for where the real problems eminate.  As Max said,  &#8220;more Dems voted for Bush than Nader&#8221; (esp. in Florida) the real issue is that anti-Naderites are in reality anti-voter.  If a candidate cannot earn a vote, s/he should not get it. Unless people believe that one political party or another owns a person&#8217;s vote, then just vote who you believe best fits your values.<br />
Voting for the lesser of the 2 evils (Obama vs McCain) is still voting for evil.  All who vote for Obama better just shut up for the next 4-8 years because all the problems we will have will be your fault- for continuing electing people who do not share YOUR real vision and hopes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolivarian Socialist</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22023</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolivarian Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ONLY SOCIALISM OF THE XXI CENTURY COULD SAVE USA.  WHAT WE NEED IS A MODERN SOCIALIST UNITED PARTY IN USA.  WE NEED TO UNITE THE LEFT INTO A VANGUARD UNITED SOCIALIST PARTY. AND ALL OUR PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONLY SOCIALISM OF THE XXI CENTURY COULD SAVE USA.  WHAT WE NEED IS A MODERN SOCIALIST UNITED PARTY IN USA.  WE NEED TO UNITE THE LEFT INTO A VANGUARD UNITED SOCIALIST PARTY. AND ALL OUR PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED !!</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22021</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have to vote for someone that could win,  you have already lost. 
 thats what happened to the ross perot people.  they got 20 fucking percent of the vote then they didnt win so they called it quits!  imagine nader or mckinney or whoever getting 20% of the vote.  ol' pelosi and reid would shit their pants.  imagine in 2010 it's 30% for nader or mckinney or whoever.  imagine in 2012...  well it could happen if you would vote only for a person you want to see elected.  the lesser of 2 evils is evil itself and it is perhaps the single biggest reason you are where you are today!  you just didn't realize that the system is all the way broken.  
if you have to vote for someone that could win,  you have already lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have to vote for someone that could win,  you have already lost.<br />
 thats what happened to the ross perot people.  they got 20 fucking percent of the vote then they didnt win so they called it quits!  imagine nader or mckinney or whoever getting 20% of the vote.  ol&#8217; pelosi and reid would shit their pants.  imagine in 2010 it&#8217;s 30% for nader or mckinney or whoever.  imagine in 2012&#8230;  well it could happen if you would vote only for a person you want to see elected.  the lesser of 2 evils is evil itself and it is perhaps the single biggest reason you are where you are today!  you just didn&#8217;t realize that the system is all the way broken.<br />
if you have to vote for someone that could win,  you have already lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22020</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The refusal in the comments to acknowledge the very real sexism in this campaign goes exactly to the point Gorgio was making.  As Glen Ford and Bruce Dixon repeatedly documented this cycle, there was no real difference between Hillary and Barack.  The only exception was that, as Paul Krugman noted, Hillary's non-universal health care plan would cover more Americans than Barack's.  (Barack's also included a mandate though a lot of  'reporters' want to pretend otherwise.)  Sexism was on display day after day in this election cycle and very few called it out.  Some left outlets, like FAIR, contributed to it along with being silent.  (Or are we not supposed to notice that the media watchdog never called out Keith Olbermann or David Schuster for their remarks on MSNBC?)  
I'm voting for Ralph Nader.  I watched as an observer with no interest in either Barack or Hillary.  Sexism paraded past non-stop and it wasn't called out.  It also took place in the Green Party which rushed to embrace Ralph at various blogs when they though they could get him.  The same blogs that had started their "Draft Cynthia" campaigns when McKinney originally decided not to run last fall.  
Cynthia McKinney was shoved aside when they thought they had a shot at Ralph.  
In that instance, I did have a vested interest because I did and do support Ralph.  But I did leave comments (that usually got deleted) during the rush to Ralph to ask why all the sudden Cynthia wasn't good enough for these same sites that had been pushing her to run only months ago?
Sexism is very real and until it's taken seriously it will continue.
I have not lumped it in with any other "ism" because that's suggesting it's not worth exploring on its own.  We had plenty of time to explore other "isms" in this race.  But we never explored sexism.  
I'll make one more point, when a Democratic candidate puts vile, gay haters on stage at a campaign event, it needs to be called out.  The refusal to call Barack out for using homophobia says a lot about the state of the left today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The refusal in the comments to acknowledge the very real sexism in this campaign goes exactly to the point Gorgio was making.  As Glen Ford and Bruce Dixon repeatedly documented this cycle, there was no real difference between Hillary and Barack.  The only exception was that, as Paul Krugman noted, Hillary&#8217;s non-universal health care plan would cover more Americans than Barack&#8217;s.  (Barack&#8217;s also included a mandate though a lot of  &#8216;reporters&#8217; want to pretend otherwise.)  Sexism was on display day after day in this election cycle and very few called it out.  Some left outlets, like FAIR, contributed to it along with being silent.  (Or are we not supposed to notice that the media watchdog never called out Keith Olbermann or David Schuster for their remarks on MSNBC?)<br />
I&#8217;m voting for Ralph Nader.  I watched as an observer with no interest in either Barack or Hillary.  Sexism paraded past non-stop and it wasn&#8217;t called out.  It also took place in the Green Party which rushed to embrace Ralph at various blogs when they though they could get him.  The same blogs that had started their &#8220;Draft Cynthia&#8221; campaigns when McKinney originally decided not to run last fall.<br />
Cynthia McKinney was shoved aside when they thought they had a shot at Ralph.<br />
In that instance, I did have a vested interest because I did and do support Ralph.  But I did leave comments (that usually got deleted) during the rush to Ralph to ask why all the sudden Cynthia wasn&#8217;t good enough for these same sites that had been pushing her to run only months ago?<br />
Sexism is very real and until it&#8217;s taken seriously it will continue.<br />
I have not lumped it in with any other &#8220;ism&#8221; because that&#8217;s suggesting it&#8217;s not worth exploring on its own.  We had plenty of time to explore other &#8220;isms&#8221; in this race.  But we never explored sexism.<br />
I&#8217;ll make one more point, when a Democratic candidate puts vile, gay haters on stage at a campaign event, it needs to be called out.  The refusal to call Barack out for using homophobia says a lot about the state of the left today.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22018</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary’s defeat does not mean most Americans by nature are misogynist than racist. It means Americans are fed up with Clinton family and do not want to continue with someone who is so committed to serve AIPAC instead of American people.  She sided with Bush and Lieberman for the war and has continued to put Israel’s interest head of American’s interest.  Many women, educated, voted against Hillary.  At the heart of “the hard working women and men” is RACISM at play not sexism. 
Obama was neither in the senate nor a US candidate for the presidency in 2003, thus, he had more rooms to manipulate without harming his chance for a seat in the senate. Obama has exposed himself fully by his speech at the AIPAC conference and I have no doubt, at this time, that if Obama was in the senate in 2003 he would have VOTED FOR THE WAR. Obama can not cash in on his vague statement on the war to sell himself as ANTI WAR candidate because his policy is almost identical with those who were and are for the war.  His voting practices dealing with war policy and treatment of Palestinians against the apartheid state is as bad as other candidates voting record.  He has no confidence to stand against those warmongers and, therefore, he can not be trusted. There is no difference between McCain and Obama and he has been given a lot of free rides by many who wanted him to be different from other political establishment but he ignored them all and did not take these people seriously and instead he did everything to please Israel Lobby more than anyone else. Obama has clearly shown that he can not be trusted since he wants to please only power not the people.  The political establishment thinks SELECTING a black president at this critical time is necessary to save a broken system to buy “credibility” for a militaristic state to fool others in order to buy hearts and minds of people of the colonies especially Muslims in the middle east, Central Asia and continent of Africa to expand their empire through phony “war on terror” and conclude the map of the “new Middle east” to protect Israel’s hegemony in the region and beyond. They are fooling no one except themselves.  The US has NO credibility around the world.
If Obama thinks he is different from McCain he must speak against “the war on terror”, put the interest of the people ahead of the corporation, save social security from thieves, bring Cheney’s health care for EVERYONE, better distribution of wealth is necessary for people to survive, bring troops home as soon as possible, force Israel out of occupied Palestine and stop funding an apartheid state, close down all the centre of tortures and rapes in many countries around the world and stop threaten  Iran for its nuclear energy program and instead concentrate on Israel nuclear bombs, more than 400 of them, and brings US nuclear bombs to zero, as UN demands, to show that you are  for CHANGE and HOPE otherwise we don’t accept EMPTY SLOGANS as change and hope.  To use the military power to protect an apartheid state with hundreds of nuclear bombs where kills daily in the occupied land is NOT A CHANGE. It is a BAD policy. To promise AIPAC
‘undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel’  is NOT HOPE, it is act of treason. Let’s talk about the real issues before it is too late. 
Someone who is willing to win the office at any cost to be supported by the establishment to serve their interests can not be satisfied with one term, therefore, he/she is going to remain a puppet to the end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary’s defeat does not mean most Americans by nature are misogynist than racist. It means Americans are fed up with Clinton family and do not want to continue with someone who is so committed to serve AIPAC instead of American people.  She sided with Bush and Lieberman for the war and has continued to put Israel’s interest head of American’s interest.  Many women, educated, voted against Hillary.  At the heart of “the hard working women and men” is RACISM at play not sexism.<br />
Obama was neither in the senate nor a US candidate for the presidency in 2003, thus, he had more rooms to manipulate without harming his chance for a seat in the senate. Obama has exposed himself fully by his speech at the AIPAC conference and I have no doubt, at this time, that if Obama was in the senate in 2003 he would have VOTED FOR THE WAR. Obama can not cash in on his vague statement on the war to sell himself as ANTI WAR candidate because his policy is almost identical with those who were and are for the war.  His voting practices dealing with war policy and treatment of Palestinians against the apartheid state is as bad as other candidates voting record.  He has no confidence to stand against those warmongers and, therefore, he can not be trusted. There is no difference between McCain and Obama and he has been given a lot of free rides by many who wanted him to be different from other political establishment but he ignored them all and did not take these people seriously and instead he did everything to please Israel Lobby more than anyone else. Obama has clearly shown that he can not be trusted since he wants to please only power not the people.  The political establishment thinks SELECTING a black president at this critical time is necessary to save a broken system to buy “credibility” for a militaristic state to fool others in order to buy hearts and minds of people of the colonies especially Muslims in the middle east, Central Asia and continent of Africa to expand their empire through phony “war on terror” and conclude the map of the “new Middle east” to protect Israel’s hegemony in the region and beyond. They are fooling no one except themselves.  The US has NO credibility around the world.<br />
If Obama thinks he is different from McCain he must speak against “the war on terror”, put the interest of the people ahead of the corporation, save social security from thieves, bring Cheney’s health care for EVERYONE, better distribution of wealth is necessary for people to survive, bring troops home as soon as possible, force Israel out of occupied Palestine and stop funding an apartheid state, close down all the centre of tortures and rapes in many countries around the world and stop threaten  Iran for its nuclear energy program and instead concentrate on Israel nuclear bombs, more than 400 of them, and brings US nuclear bombs to zero, as UN demands, to show that you are  for CHANGE and HOPE otherwise we don’t accept EMPTY SLOGANS as change and hope.  To use the military power to protect an apartheid state with hundreds of nuclear bombs where kills daily in the occupied land is NOT A CHANGE. It is a BAD policy. To promise AIPAC<br />
‘undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel’  is NOT HOPE, it is act of treason. Let’s talk about the real issues before it is too late.<br />
Someone who is willing to win the office at any cost to be supported by the establishment to serve their interests can not be satisfied with one term, therefore, he/she is going to remain a puppet to the end</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mowrey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/why-i-cant-support-barack-obama/#comment-22015</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what's all the fuss about voting for Obama? Clearly we can see just how well the "lesser of two evils" approach to progressive political goals has worked for us over the last 60 years. Why change now?
It's high time we made U.S. imperialist war crimes an equal opportunity endeavor. What we need is an Oreo cookie in the white house.
Go Uncle Tom Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s all the fuss about voting for Obama? Clearly we can see just how well the &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221; approach to progressive political goals has worked for us over the last 60 years. Why change now?<br />
It&#8217;s high time we made U.S. imperialist war crimes an equal opportunity endeavor. What we need is an Oreo cookie in the white house.<br />
Go Uncle Tom Obama!</p>
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