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	<title>Comments on: Tactics That Ended Apartheid in S. Africa Can End It in Israel</title>
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		<title>By: AaronG</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/tactics-that-ended-apartheid-in-s-africa-can-end-it-in-israel/#comment-23191</link>
		<dc:creator>AaronG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accepting that the author is more experienced to comment on both the Israeli-Palestinian "conflict" and South African apartheid that I am, I need to point out a fundamental difference between the two issues - religion. According to my research on SA, which is limited, I didn't see religion have as much influence in apartheid (apart from Dutch Reformed Church) as it does in the Middle East. And according to the John Pilger DVD "Apartheid Did Not End", the divide in SA is no longer black vs white, but rich vs poor. When ethnic apartheid gives way to economic apartheid, what has really been accomplished?

Talking about empty achievements, I caught some of the Nelson Mandela concert on tv the other night (nearly fell off my chair when they said he's 90 - he's lookin good). Gave me a warm feeling inside. I think it was a sold out concert.

Not the first thing that Nelson has sold out..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accepting that the author is more experienced to comment on both the Israeli-Palestinian &#8220;conflict&#8221; and South African apartheid that I am, I need to point out a fundamental difference between the two issues - religion. According to my research on SA, which is limited, I didn&#8217;t see religion have as much influence in apartheid (apart from Dutch Reformed Church) as it does in the Middle East. And according to the John Pilger DVD &#8220;Apartheid Did Not End&#8221;, the divide in SA is no longer black vs white, but rich vs poor. When ethnic apartheid gives way to economic apartheid, what has really been accomplished?</p>
<p>Talking about empty achievements, I caught some of the Nelson Mandela concert on tv the other night (nearly fell off my chair when they said he&#8217;s 90 - he&#8217;s lookin good). Gave me a warm feeling inside. I think it was a sold out concert.</p>
<p>Not the first thing that Nelson has sold out&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the mines produce there will be order. Order to a degree which allows absolutely nothing what so ever to interfere with those mines.
Chromium, vanadium, zandium, iridium, rhodium, indium, palladium, etc.
Along with the famous gold and diamond mines.
S.A. is one of the most unique places on earth. 
Witness the smooth transition of governments.
The quiet disposal(?) of S. A. half dozen or so nukes they possessed.
Very quietly 'taken care of.'
"The spice must flow."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the mines produce there will be order. Order to a degree which allows absolutely nothing what so ever to interfere with those mines.<br />
Chromium, vanadium, zandium, iridium, rhodium, indium, palladium, etc.<br />
Along with the famous gold and diamond mines.<br />
S.A. is one of the most unique places on earth.<br />
Witness the smooth transition of governments.<br />
The quiet disposal(?) of S. A. half dozen or so nukes they possessed.<br />
Very quietly &#8216;taken care of.&#8217;<br />
&#8220;The spice must flow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Divestment/boycott did bring big changes in So Africa, so was not completely in vain. However massive injustices in that country still continue. For the average John Q Miner-in-the-Vein &#38; family, not much has changed.
And IMHO it's a dangerous illusion to think Liberal Christian boycotts/divestment campaigns alone will produce justice in Palestine/Canaan. Now if they lead to public confrontation between these established Liberal outfits and the entity called "The Jewish Community" by the bigshots who control it, aka the ZPC, things will get interesting indeed. 

A lot depends on how  "The Occupation" is defined, and whether the Divest/Boycott movement condemns Zionist Theocratic Apartheid en toto, or confines itself to post-1967 manifestations of it. At some pt, somebody has to tell the US Public  "Hey we've been had: "Israel" has been a racist criminal conspiracy from the jump!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Divestment/boycott did bring big changes in So Africa, so was not completely in vain. However massive injustices in that country still continue. For the average John Q Miner-in-the-Vein &amp; family, not much has changed.<br />
And IMHO it&#8217;s a dangerous illusion to think Liberal Christian boycotts/divestment campaigns alone will produce justice in Palestine/Canaan. Now if they lead to public confrontation between these established Liberal outfits and the entity called &#8220;The Jewish Community&#8221; by the bigshots who control it, aka the ZPC, things will get interesting indeed. </p>
<p>A lot depends on how  &#8220;The Occupation&#8221; is defined, and whether the Divest/Boycott movement condemns Zionist Theocratic Apartheid en toto, or confines itself to post-1967 manifestations of it. At some pt, somebody has to tell the US Public  &#8220;Hey we&#8217;ve been had: &#8220;Israel&#8221; has been a racist criminal conspiracy from the jump!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is  heartening  to me  to learn  that some christians r speaking out against zionist crimes.
the key to it  all   is time  and US.  once  arabs acquire nuclear and other WMD, israel  will find self in  mortal danger and will for the first  time sing  another aria.
US, on the other hand (by US, i don't mean people,  but US  ruling class) can  bring peace in expalestine  in 1 hr  and  one-state or two-state sol'n in just yrs or even months.
probably one-state sol'n  might be btter than one. thank u.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is  heartening  to me  to learn  that some christians r speaking out against zionist crimes.<br />
the key to it  all   is time  and US.  once  arabs acquire nuclear and other WMD, israel  will find self in  mortal danger and will for the first  time sing  another aria.<br />
US, on the other hand (by US, i don&#8217;t mean people,  but US  ruling class) can  bring peace in expalestine  in 1 hr  and  one-state or two-state sol&#8217;n in just yrs or even months.<br />
probably one-state sol&#8217;n  might be btter than one. thank u.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/tactics-that-ended-apartheid-in-s-africa-can-end-it-in-israel/#comment-23000</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*delete the "to" of your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*delete the &#8220;to&#8221; of your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/tactics-that-ended-apartheid-in-s-africa-can-end-it-in-israel/#comment-22999</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But to what nearby country does Cuba send troops to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But to what nearby country does Cuba send troops to?</p>
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