Comments on: Diversity and the Incoherence of Journalism’s Ideology http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:10:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22386 hp Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:41:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22386 Well here's something that never changes or subsides. More Zionist Israeli lying. One big lie after lie, after lie. Beyond the hiring of gay, straight, black, white or green, lies the same corrupt and corrupting message. NO criticizing Israel! NO truth about Israel. Dirty rats is right. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israellibertyrep.php Well here’s something that never changes or subsides.
More Zionist Israeli lying. One big lie after lie, after lie.
Beyond the hiring of gay, straight, black, white or green, lies the same corrupt and corrupting message.
NO criticizing Israel! NO truth about Israel.
Dirty rats is right.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israellibertyrep.php

]]> By: BD http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22376 BD Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:32:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22376 Jensen's right on the money in terms of his analysis, but the weighty question still hanging before us is, what will the hierarchy-free, liberated news organization look like? As Jeff asked, how will hiring be made blind? How do we move, for example, toward bringing gay male journalists to commit to feminist politics, and would such an endorsement be an outward or truly inward commitment? Have the groups Jensen cited (NABJ, NAHJ, etc) articulated a different vision for journalism yet? I'd be interested to know. Jensen’s right on the money in terms of his analysis, but the weighty question still hanging before us is, what will the hierarchy-free, liberated news organization look like? As Jeff asked, how will hiring be made blind? How do we move, for example, toward bringing gay male journalists to commit to feminist politics, and would such an endorsement be an outward or truly inward commitment? Have the groups Jensen cited (NABJ, NAHJ, etc) articulated a different vision for journalism yet? I’d be interested to know.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22353 hp Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:03:33 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22353 Lloyd, gore Vidal must be feeling feisty these days. Here's his latest. The NYT, believe it or not. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/magazine/15wwln-Q4-t.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin Lloyd, gore Vidal must be feeling feisty these days. Here’s his latest. The NYT, believe it or not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/magazine/15wwln-Q4-t.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22327 hp Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:31:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22327 P.S. Lawyers love it. Every new applicant as well as new hire, comes complete with real life walk and talk attorney, a prepared lawsuit and free lunch. (English language translator not included) P.S. Lawyers love it.
Every new applicant as well as new hire, comes complete with real life walk and talk attorney, a prepared lawsuit and free lunch.
(English language translator not included)

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22325 hp Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:14:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22325 Nepotism has morphed, in keeping up with our exciting times, into an altogether new life form. Something along the lines of non-discriminatory neo-opportunism, via a state sanctioned participatory psuedo-democratic lottery. Nepotism has morphed, in keeping up with our exciting times, into an altogether new life form.
Something along the lines of non-discriminatory neo-opportunism, via a state sanctioned participatory psuedo-democratic lottery.

]]> By: Jeff Bartlett http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22321 Jeff Bartlett Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:04:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22321 I have often wondered the equality question when it comes to an open voice and open mind in the workplace, whether its a news room or a minimart. I understand the fundamental need, and fully endorse, equality in the hiring process but do not believe that all groups are as effected by your so called "status-quo suppression". Take the minimart for example, three people apply for the job: a flamboyantly gay man, a Gothic teenager and a typical college student. The college student inevitably gets the job and the other two individuals are out of luck. Its often said that the Gothic type person cannot gain employment because of his chosen appearance of dark make-ups and piercings, while the gay man can cry foul to the hiring process. In reality, he was not hired because of his flamboyancy, not simply because he was gay. It was his outward appearance that he was unwilling to compromise, just like the Gothic kid. Its much the same when police or fire stations hire new cadets. In Canada, they often know that they will be hiring 100 people and break that down according to representation: 50 White Males, 15 White Females, 10 Visible Minority Males, 5 Visible Minority Females, 10 aboriginal descendants and 10 miscellaneous people. How can equality exist if they are not going to simply hire the top 100 candidates for the job, without even viewing their color, creed or beliefs? So when is it equal opportunity and when is it unfair acceptance to meet a growing demand for unequal hiring? I have often wondered the equality question when it comes to an open voice and open mind in the workplace, whether its a news room or a minimart.

I understand the fundamental need, and fully endorse, equality in the hiring process but do not believe that all groups are as effected by your so called “status-quo suppression”.

Take the minimart for example, three people apply for the job: a flamboyantly gay man, a Gothic teenager and a typical college student. The college student inevitably gets the job and the other two individuals are out of luck. Its often said that the Gothic type person cannot gain employment because of his chosen appearance of dark make-ups and piercings, while the gay man can cry foul to the hiring process. In reality, he was not hired because of his flamboyancy, not simply because he was gay. It was his outward appearance that he was unwilling to compromise, just like the Gothic kid.

Its much the same when police or fire stations hire new cadets. In Canada, they often know that they will be hiring 100 people and break that down according to representation: 50 White Males, 15 White Females, 10 Visible Minority Males, 5 Visible Minority Females, 10 aboriginal descendants and 10 miscellaneous people. How can equality exist if they are not going to simply hire the top 100 candidates for the job, without even viewing their color, creed or beliefs?

So when is it equal opportunity and when is it unfair acceptance to meet a growing demand for unequal hiring?

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/diversity-and-the-incoherence-of-journalism%e2%80%99s-ideology/#comment-22319 bozhidar balkas Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2172#comment-22319 mainstream media people also lie a lot. i don't read it any longer. and they lie knowingly. they'r required to lie and not for pennies but for megabucks. probably 90% of all MSM people r a bit left of hitler and mussolini. remember when MSM wd show only fat russian women? and look at the women in US now! they wd have to pay me to read what they wright. thanx mainstream media people also lie a lot. i don’t read it any longer.
and they lie knowingly. they’r required to lie and not for pennies but for megabucks.
probably 90% of all MSM people r a bit left of hitler and mussolini.
remember when MSM wd show only fat russian women? and look at the women in US now!
they wd have to pay me to read what they wright. thanx

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