Comments on: Time To Reap Bitter Florida Fruits http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:03:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: patty lett http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-25830 patty lett Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:05:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-25830 It seems that 2/3 of the people who commit crimes in vero beach are put directly to jail for years with prison down the line. Can't they come up with a better decision than jail for almost any offense. And then prison has no reform .They just sit and stew with all the downhearted people. With no hope of bettering them self. Nothing to look forward to on the outside,since they are set up to fail. With all the stupid rules given for probation they certianly cannot hold a job. I believe the prison system is very corrupt. It seems that 2/3 of the people who commit crimes in vero beach are put directly to jail for years with prison down the line. Can’t they come up with a better decision than jail for almost any offense. And then prison has no reform .They just sit and stew with all the downhearted people. With no hope of bettering them self. Nothing to look forward to on the outside,since they are set up to fail. With all the stupid rules given for probation they certianly cannot hold a job. I believe the prison system is very corrupt.

]]> By: David http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19998 David Tue, 06 May 2008 17:23:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19998 As a resident of the State of Florida, I have to wonder if the choice of prisons over schools wasn't a wise one. The curriculum of the schools here is so geared to Jeb's FCAT test, that they seem to have forgotten that the purpose of a school is education. Maybe our kids would be better off in the prisons. They might get more exercise as Phys Ed has been cut (because it's not on the test) and they're not allowed to run around during recess (liability issues, don't you know). And before you get all bent out of shape by my sarcasm, consider this - I have two children who will be coming of school age in the next few years, so this is not just an issue of passing interest to me. As a resident of the State of Florida, I have to wonder if the choice of prisons over schools wasn’t a wise one. The curriculum of the schools here is so geared to Jeb’s FCAT test, that they seem to have forgotten that the purpose of a school is education. Maybe our kids would be better off in the prisons. They might get more exercise as Phys Ed has been cut (because it’s not on the test) and they’re not allowed to run around during recess (liability issues, don’t you know).

And before you get all bent out of shape by my sarcasm, consider this - I have two children who will be coming of school age in the next few years, so this is not just an issue of passing interest to me.

]]> By: Tom Joad http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19943 Tom Joad Mon, 05 May 2008 22:51:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19943 John Hatch said. "If you think Jeb made a mess of Florida, just wait ’til he’s the Prez…" John you know how to send chills up someones spine. As a lifelong resident of Florida I can tell you Jeb wants to be President in the worst way. He's every bit as Evil as W, and a hell of a lot smarter. All I can say is BEWARE. John Hatch said. “If you think Jeb made a mess of Florida, just wait ’til he’s the Prez…”

John you know how to send chills up someones spine. As a lifelong resident of Florida I can tell you Jeb wants to be President in the worst way. He’s every bit as Evil as W, and a hell of a lot smarter. All I can say is BEWARE.

]]> By: John Hatch http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19795 John Hatch Sat, 03 May 2008 23:36:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19795 If you think Jeb made a mess of Florida, just wait 'til he's the Prez... If you think Jeb made a mess of Florida, just wait ’til he’s the Prez…

]]> By: John Wilkinson http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19785 John Wilkinson Sat, 03 May 2008 21:39:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19785 i inadvertently misspelled the word "commissioner" the second time...:) i inadvertently misspelled the word “commissioner” the second time…:)

]]> By: John Wilkinson http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19784 John Wilkinson Sat, 03 May 2008 21:35:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19784 my wife just got a mailing from the county jury system. in it, a sentence that, in certain circumstances, she should contact the "commissioner of juror's". this on official stationary, official letter for official business. obviously, not a typo. produced by a member of the illiterate nation. this is grade school grammar (1st grade or so). if i had written "commisioner of juror's" on a test of english in my native country (non-english speaking), I would have gotten a big, fat F. so, who taught these people the grammar, the math (see the math example above), the things they need in this society? you, the teachers. ostensibly when the times were good, but doesn't matter. no matter how scarce the resources, how underpaid you are, what is the excuse for the school grads not knowing even the most basic stuff? for releasing such people into the society where they won't have a clue? there is none and you're to blame. now, you're surprised that these same uneducated people, when they grow up, make the wrong choices, have the wrong priorities and are easily swayed by the swindlers in charge. well, you sowed the seeds, when you neglected your job. it seems to me, it really doesn't matter if they cut the school funding to the bone -- those shools ain't worth nothing, as they say. my wife just got a mailing from the county jury system. in it, a sentence that, in certain circumstances, she should contact the “commissioner of juror’s”. this on official stationary, official letter for official business. obviously, not a typo. produced by a member of the illiterate nation. this is grade school grammar (1st grade or so). if i had written “commisioner of juror’s” on a test of english in my native country (non-english speaking), I would have gotten a big, fat F.

so, who taught these people the grammar, the math (see the math example above), the things they need in this society? you, the teachers. ostensibly when the times were good, but doesn’t matter. no matter how scarce the resources, how underpaid you are, what is the excuse for the school grads not knowing even the most basic stuff? for releasing such people into the society where they won’t have a clue? there is none and you’re to blame. now, you’re surprised that these same uneducated people, when they grow up, make the wrong choices, have the wrong priorities and are easily swayed by the swindlers in charge. well, you sowed the seeds, when you neglected your job. it seems to me, it really doesn’t matter if they cut the school funding to the bone — those shools ain’t worth nothing, as they say.

]]> By: John Wilkinson http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/time-to-reap-bitter-florida-fruits/#comment-19711 John Wilkinson Fri, 02 May 2008 19:34:50 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1949#comment-19711 the whole country has become a banana republic run by oligarchy shot through rot and corruption. people dont want to pay for schools but they do want to pay for prisons. the media always run sensational articles on the latest crimes, but fail to explain how those criminals came to be. so, short run view wins over the long run view, in a country with short attention spans and horrible education, and the oligarchy exploits that. imho, one of the main reasons, if not the reason for the way things are, is the shitty education most people acquired here. and for that, teachers do share some blame. there are many who don't care if the kids really learn. it's not the only thing, but it's part of the equation. i've come across cashiers in supermarkets who can't perform simple addition (like $13.73 + $20.00 -- they need a calculator for that). how in hell did they make it past the first grade, and how the hell is it possible that they weren't taught this? the whole country has become a banana republic run by oligarchy shot through rot and corruption. people dont want to pay for schools but they do want to pay for prisons. the media always run sensational articles on the latest crimes, but fail to explain how those criminals came to be. so, short run view wins over the long run view, in a country with short attention spans and horrible education, and the oligarchy exploits that. imho, one of the main reasons, if not the reason for the way things are, is the shitty education most people acquired here. and for that, teachers do share some blame. there are many who don’t care if the kids really learn. it’s not the only thing, but it’s part of the equation. i’ve come across cashiers in supermarkets who can’t perform simple addition (like $13.73 + $20.00 — they need a calculator for that). how in hell did they make it past the first grade, and how the hell is it possible that they weren’t taught this?

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