Comments on: The Political Economy of Telecom Immunity http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:56:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Tom Burghardt http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21375 Tom Burghardt Fri, 30 May 2008 00:11:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21375 JMarra raises a pertinent issue, one we neglect at out peril. Supercomputers, indeed, the internet itself as we know, were products of NSA/Pentagon research. If I'm not mistaken, the first Cray supers were rolled out specifically for NSA's use. Network and link analysis are how faces, phone numbers, IP addresses, etc. are rendered "visible" and contextualized. Specifically, link analysis ferrets out (via complex algorithms) the interrelationships amongst seemingly disparate objects and people into a "coherent" whole. Think of it as a state-sponsored mechanism that subverts the old surrealist axiom: the joining together of two antithetical images to create a new reality, a surreality. Only here (network, link analysis) the process doesn't lead to a subversion of the established order as the Marxist surrealists dreamed, but, via the study of people and objects, the possibility of chilling subversion in favor of an all-encompassing surveillance state, i.e., one where conformity is a social (corporatist) goal. Can they do it? Probably. But like all totalitarian dreamers, these little gray men ignore Marx's "old mole." Did the KGB or Stasi succeed in keeping the "lid on." Things reach a certain combustible point, and then... JMarra raises a pertinent issue, one we neglect at out peril. Supercomputers, indeed, the internet itself as we know, were products of NSA/Pentagon research. If I’m not mistaken, the first Cray supers were rolled out specifically for NSA’s use.

Network and link analysis are how faces, phone numbers, IP addresses, etc. are rendered “visible” and contextualized. Specifically, link analysis ferrets out (via complex algorithms) the interrelationships amongst seemingly disparate objects and people into a “coherent” whole. Think of it as a state-sponsored mechanism that subverts the old surrealist axiom: the joining together of two antithetical images to create a new reality, a surreality.

Only here (network, link analysis) the process doesn’t lead to a subversion of the established order as the Marxist surrealists dreamed, but, via the study of people and objects, the possibility of chilling subversion in favor of an all-encompassing surveillance state, i.e., one where conformity is a social (corporatist) goal.

Can they do it? Probably. But like all totalitarian dreamers, these little gray men ignore Marx’s “old mole.” Did the KGB or Stasi succeed in keeping the “lid on.” Things reach a certain combustible point, and then…

]]> By: Tom Burghardt http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21370 Tom Burghardt Thu, 29 May 2008 23:44:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21370 Jim is right on the mark: BellSouth merged with AT&T... Sorry for the oversight. Jim is right on the mark: BellSouth merged with AT&T… Sorry for the oversight.

]]> By: Jim http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21328 Jim Thu, 29 May 2008 15:17:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21328 AT&T and BellSouth are the same company - it's called AT&T. AT&T and BellSouth are the same company - it’s called AT&T.

]]> By: JMarra http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21321 JMarra Thu, 29 May 2008 14:25:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21321 volume of traffic is so enormous that they never get a chance to actually check or evaluate more than a miniscule part of it ---- That's what supercomputers are for. Don't think they aren't working night and day on new means to summarize it. volume of traffic is so enormous that they never get a chance to actually check or evaluate more than a miniscule part of it
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That’s what supercomputers are for. Don’t think they aren’t working night and day on new means to summarize it.

]]> By: MERRYBELLE http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21302 MERRYBELLE Thu, 29 May 2008 04:36:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21302 HAVE YA'LL EVER HEARD OF SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT MAIN CORE MAY BE FEEDING INFORMATION INTO THE SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION . BASICALLY THE SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO RECREATE THE REAL WORLD AND WILL HAVE A NODE WHICH IS AN AVATAR OF EACH AND EVERY ON OF US. MAYBE THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY OBTAINING IS GOING INTO CREATING A VIRTUAL WORLD WITH AVATARS OF EACH AND EVERYONE OF US. HAVE YA’LL EVER HEARD OF SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT MAIN CORE MAY BE FEEDING INFORMATION INTO THE SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION . BASICALLY THE SENTIENT WORLD SIMULATION PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO RECREATE THE REAL WORLD AND WILL HAVE A NODE WHICH IS AN AVATAR OF EACH AND EVERY ON OF US. MAYBE THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY OBTAINING IS GOING INTO CREATING A VIRTUAL WORLD WITH AVATARS OF EACH AND EVERYONE OF US.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21275 Michael Kenny Wed, 28 May 2008 18:09:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21275 Just to keep all this in perspective, several intelligence services, including the US, already systimatically record all communications made via satellite, which means all international phone calls, all calls via mobile phone, all SMSs, all internet traffic, including this comment and the fact that you, gentle reader, are connected to this website at this moment. The beauty of all this is that the volume of traffic is so enormous that they never get a chance to actually check or evaluate more than a miniscule part of it! Even assuming they have the language skills to do so! The more perfectly legitimate and anodyne phone calls and e-mails you send, the more you screw them up! They'll never find the needle in the haystack! So keep on bloggin'! Just to keep all this in perspective, several intelligence services, including the US, already systimatically record all communications made via satellite, which means all international phone calls, all calls via mobile phone, all SMSs, all internet traffic, including this comment and the fact that you, gentle reader, are connected to this website at this moment. The beauty of all this is that the volume of traffic is so enormous that they never get a chance to actually check or evaluate more than a miniscule part of it! Even assuming they have the language skills to do so! The more perfectly legitimate and anodyne phone calls and e-mails you send, the more you screw them up! They’ll never find the needle in the haystack! So keep on bloggin’!

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/the-political-economy-of-telecom-immunity/#comment-21265 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 28 May 2008 16:17:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2073#comment-21265 With fond nostalgia I recall my FDR-Democratic dad distinguishing those bad Commie governments from our good American ones -- they persecuted and killed their OWN citizens, whereas America only makes war against foreign countries! And, was he fervid! Bless his bones, I'm glad he passed long before the year 2000. With fond nostalgia I recall my FDR-Democratic dad distinguishing those bad Commie governments from our good American ones — they persecuted and killed their OWN citizens, whereas America only makes war against foreign countries! And, was he fervid! Bless his bones, I’m glad he passed long before the year 2000.

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