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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-20024</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john wilkinson,
just a quick comment ab. deaths in US. i self have written ab that matter to media; however,none of my letters dealing with that and other
matters have been published for obvious reasons.  
the question is :can we have progress w.o. regress?
i think we can tho not ideally. the ruling class  in canada discounts in toto the regress. sad,isn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john wilkinson,<br />
just a quick comment ab. deaths in US. i self have written ab that matter to media; however,none of my letters dealing with that and other<br />
matters have been published for obvious reasons.<br />
the question is :can we have progress w.o. regress?<br />
i think we can tho not ideally. the ruling class  in canada discounts in toto the regress. sad,isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19984</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baal, yahweh, god, and allah are  all semitic  deities.  baal  is gone; slain by ' yahweh'; he's  an  angry/hateful/greedy 'god'.
not much  less  angry  are  'god'   and  'allah'. 
lagging  a bit  behind  in anger at or disdain/hate/fear of us are  world's  plutocrats.
and then, to make matters even worse,  we have  zionism. and everytime i think of zionism  i get  nostalgic for  genghis, fascism, communism and soon even nazism.
this  is  a not a good  joke.  but it's  all i can  come up with at this time.  i'm sick  of  crying. so i joke. 
can i give u some  good news  before i alight?
my wife  used  to be  TEN; now  that  she's 77, she's  still  a NINE. isn't that good news?
but i got even better news  for u: now that  she's  not talking to her  daughters, she's 9.2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baal, yahweh, god, and allah are  all semitic  deities.  baal  is gone; slain by &#8216; yahweh&#8217;; he&#8217;s  an  angry/hateful/greedy &#8216;god&#8217;.<br />
not much  less  angry  are  &#8216;god&#8217;   and  &#8216;allah&#8217;.<br />
lagging  a bit  behind  in anger at or disdain/hate/fear of us are  world&#8217;s  plutocrats.<br />
and then, to make matters even worse,  we have  zionism. and everytime i think of zionism  i get  nostalgic for  genghis, fascism, communism and soon even nazism.<br />
this  is  a not a good  joke.  but it&#8217;s  all i can  come up with at this time.  i&#8217;m sick  of  crying. so i joke.<br />
can i give u some  good news  before i alight?<br />
my wife  used  to be  TEN; now  that  she&#8217;s 77, she&#8217;s  still  a NINE. isn&#8217;t that good news?<br />
but i got even better news  for u: now that  she&#8217;s  not talking to her  daughters, she&#8217;s 9.2.</p>
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		<title>By: eileen fleming</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19980</link>
		<dc:creator>eileen fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Giorgio-i myself have said many times many the god that many 'Christians' believe in, is a god that should be fired. 



"There are two Christianities in our midst. One worships a punitive father and seeks obedience at all costs. It is patriarchal, demonizes woman, the earth, science, gays, lesbians, and deep thought. It builds on fear and it supports empire-builders. Its theology includes a punitive father in the sky and teaches original sin.

“The other Christianity recognizes the original blessing that all beings derive from. We recognize awe, not sin, not guilt, as the starting point of true religion. We recognize a divinity who is source of all things and is as much mother as father, as much female as male. We honor creation and diversity. When God created everything, He pronounced it all good. We are here to make love to life. Yes, we are here to make love to life."

-Excerpted from "KEEP HOPE ALIVE", Chapter 12: The Revolution Starts Now"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Giorgio-i myself have said many times many the god that many &#8216;Christians&#8217; believe in, is a god that should be fired. </p>
<p>&#8220;There are two Christianities in our midst. One worships a punitive father and seeks obedience at all costs. It is patriarchal, demonizes woman, the earth, science, gays, lesbians, and deep thought. It builds on fear and it supports empire-builders. Its theology includes a punitive father in the sky and teaches original sin.</p>
<p>“The other Christianity recognizes the original blessing that all beings derive from. We recognize awe, not sin, not guilt, as the starting point of true religion. We recognize a divinity who is source of all things and is as much mother as father, as much female as male. We honor creation and diversity. When God created everything, He pronounced it all good. We are here to make love to life. Yes, we are here to make love to life.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Excerpted from &#8220;KEEP HOPE ALIVE&#8221;, Chapter 12: The Revolution Starts Now&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19953</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the article, the beautiful poetry, the remarks about Judeo-Christian values, the right/wrong statistics on the number of nukes or WMDs,  and scanning the banter between the commentators, I got the sudden feeling that this Judeo-Christian SINGLE-PERSON God must be an inveterate drunkard. Between his sloshing,  thundering, and showering  Humanity with fire and brimstone for the last few millenia, I ask myself, where the hell can  Humanity run for cover to??? 
A child who is molested and beaten up regularly by a drunken father can at least, once reaching adulthood, pack his bags and run away from him and never see him again. Hence he is still blessed with the HOPE of eventual Freedom!  
How do I now hanker for that Great Family of Roman and Greek GODS!!!
In that Golden Era, if a god misbehaved himself, the other gods would gang up on him and throw him into a dungeon. And so, voilà!, problem solved!  But not so with this widely acclaimed (unique?) Judeo-Christian god!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the article, the beautiful poetry, the remarks about Judeo-Christian values, the right/wrong statistics on the number of nukes or WMDs,  and scanning the banter between the commentators, I got the sudden feeling that this Judeo-Christian SINGLE-PERSON God must be an inveterate drunkard. Between his sloshing,  thundering, and showering  Humanity with fire and brimstone for the last few millenia, I ask myself, where the hell can  Humanity run for cover to???<br />
A child who is molested and beaten up regularly by a drunken father can at least, once reaching adulthood, pack his bags and run away from him and never see him again. Hence he is still blessed with the HOPE of eventual Freedom!<br />
How do I now hanker for that Great Family of Roman and Greek GODS!!!<br />
In that Golden Era, if a god misbehaved himself, the other gods would gang up on him and throw him into a dungeon. And so, voilà!, problem solved!  But not so with this widely acclaimed (unique?) Judeo-Christian god!</p>
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		<title>By: eileen fleming</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19948</link>
		<dc:creator>eileen fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear bozhidar balkas 

Yes, I agree many people-and most especially the  PAID media are as you wrote:
 "lazy... unmotivated"

But might you IMAGINE that at this moment in time-with a free and Mineutral net-we the people of the one world we all inhabit truly do have it in "our power to begin the world again"?

Might you IMAGINE that by regaining COMMON SENSE  is the first step?

Might you IMAGINE that we the people who have been given much, much more is required of US?

"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine

IMAGINE when America actually does that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear bozhidar balkas </p>
<p>Yes, I agree many people-and most especially the  PAID media are as you wrote:<br />
 &#8220;lazy&#8230; unmotivated&#8221;</p>
<p>But might you IMAGINE that at this moment in time-with a free and Mineutral net-we the people of the one world we all inhabit truly do have it in &#8220;our power to begin the world again&#8221;?</p>
<p>Might you IMAGINE that by regaining COMMON SENSE  is the first step?</p>
<p>Might you IMAGINE that we the people who have been given much, much more is required of US?</p>
<p>&#8220;Soon after I had published the pamphlet &#8220;Common Sense&#8221; [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion&#8230; The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.&#8221;-Tom Paine</p>
<p>IMAGINE when America actually does that!</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19946</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too many  people  say  to us  what to do but  few if  any  tell us how to do it.  bible is full of  suggestions/commands ab.  what to do but does not offer  single  method  ab.  how  to  obtain  inner peace or  how to look after  weaker members  in  any  society.
to improve  lives  of  citizens  in  a country  like canada or  US,  i offer  u a methodology:
1. change  education  system.  it cannot be  done  uless  we  rest  the control   of  the  education  from  religion, tv, movies, and   the ruling class. let's  stop watching  movies and TV.  let's  start  a party and demand  changes be made  or make them ourselves  once  we govern.  
2. we  must  convince ourselves  that  education  is  controled  by the ruling  class  and  not by  working  people.  the goal of the ruling class being  our  'voluntary'  intellectual  serfdom.
3. once and for all  time  let's  stop  grading  children . Judging/grading/rating  children  is ab. the worst  thing  we can do.
can u imagine  how a child feels finishing last  in  his/her class?   and   listening  to  a teacher   laud another child?
rating cows may be ok. but rating people is based  on a millennial misteaching: people are lazy,  dumb, unmotivated, unwashed, etc. thank u.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too many  people  say  to us  what to do but  few if  any  tell us how to do it.  bible is full of  suggestions/commands ab.  what to do but does not offer  single  method  ab.  how  to  obtain  inner peace or  how to look after  weaker members  in  any  society.<br />
to improve  lives  of  citizens  in  a country  like canada or  US,  i offer  u a methodology:<br />
1. change  education  system.  it cannot be  done  uless  we  rest  the control   of  the  education  from  religion, tv, movies, and   the ruling class. let&#8217;s  stop watching  movies and TV.  let&#8217;s  start  a party and demand  changes be made  or make them ourselves  once  we govern.<br />
2. we  must  convince ourselves  that  education  is  controled  by the ruling  class  and  not by  working  people.  the goal of the ruling class being  our  &#8216;voluntary&#8217;  intellectual  serfdom.<br />
3. once and for all  time  let&#8217;s  stop  grading  children . Judging/grading/rating  children  is ab. the worst  thing  we can do.<br />
can u imagine  how a child feels finishing last  in  his/her class?   and   listening  to  a teacher   laud another child?<br />
rating cows may be ok. but rating people is based  on a millennial misteaching: people are lazy,  dumb, unmotivated, unwashed, etc. thank u.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19894</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction by bozhidar.
i said an "ergoding"  event instead of  nuclear  war (s)  being ergodic,i.,e., having zero chance of not  occuring, thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction by bozhidar.<br />
i said an &#8220;ergoding&#8221;  event instead of  nuclear  war (s)  being ergodic,i.,e., having zero chance of not  occuring, thanx</p>
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		<title>By: eileen fleming</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19887</link>
		<dc:creator>eileen fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Joed,

You wrote: "i think she may be sub-rosa either whicken or a Gothic Chick." 

None of the above. What i am is a Christian of The Beatitudes- meaning I follow the best I can what JC taught and NOT the dogma and doctrines of any Institution. 


Dear Aaron,

Good points, but I must stand by the one dream can change everything-remember Martin Luther King, Jr.?

 "Never doubt that a few, thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -Margaret Mead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joed,</p>
<p>You wrote: &#8220;i think she may be sub-rosa either whicken or a Gothic Chick.&#8221; </p>
<p>None of the above. What i am is a Christian of The Beatitudes- meaning I follow the best I can what JC taught and NOT the dogma and doctrines of any Institution. </p>
<p>Dear Aaron,</p>
<p>Good points, but I must stand by the one dream can change everything-remember Martin Luther King, Jr.?</p>
<p> &#8220;Never doubt that a few, thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.&#8221; -Margaret Mead</p>
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		<title>By: AaronG</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19876</link>
		<dc:creator>AaronG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I would also ask that you use your international influence to invite the other leaders of the Nuclear Weapon States – Great Britain, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea"

It's a bit depressing to realise that most of the countries mentioned in Emiko's letter, along with the US, represent the UN "Security" Council. You can't run to crooked cops to solve your problems.

Thanks for the great article Eileen. I must politely disagree with your statement "One dream can change everything and change only occurs from the bottom up". Change can definitely come from bottom-up (albeit slow and frustrating - just ask Hugo Chavez what he's going through at the moment), but it's most effective when it comes from top-down.................simply remove the gangsters and their whole rulership structure and watch the people thrive. I think the elites love to encourage bottom-up methods of change, since it wrongly puts responsibility onto the people for the planet's woes, and I think that they know that it doesn't get results. What they're absolutely shit-scared of is top-down change. We all want to protect our jobs. I can't see them voluntarily handing in their badges anytime soon. We hope gullibly that we can make a difference by turning off our light globes or riding to work (as I do). Meanwhile the rulers haven't altered their life$tyle one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would also ask that you use your international influence to invite the other leaders of the Nuclear Weapon States – Great Britain, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit depressing to realise that most of the countries mentioned in Emiko&#8217;s letter, along with the US, represent the UN &#8220;Security&#8221; Council. You can&#8217;t run to crooked cops to solve your problems.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great article Eileen. I must politely disagree with your statement &#8220;One dream can change everything and change only occurs from the bottom up&#8221;. Change can definitely come from bottom-up (albeit slow and frustrating - just ask Hugo Chavez what he&#8217;s going through at the moment), but it&#8217;s most effective when it comes from top-down&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..simply remove the gangsters and their whole rulership structure and watch the people thrive. I think the elites love to encourage bottom-up methods of change, since it wrongly puts responsibility onto the people for the planet&#8217;s woes, and I think that they know that it doesn&#8217;t get results. What they&#8217;re absolutely shit-scared of is top-down change. We all want to protect our jobs. I can&#8217;t see them voluntarily handing in their badges anytime soon. We hope gullibly that we can make a difference by turning off our light globes or riding to work (as I do). Meanwhile the rulers haven&#8217;t altered their life$tyle one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19858</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joed. thanx for the inmput.
here's how  i  think/use langauge.
 any topic of whatever kind (music, geograophy, education,  politics, religion) is part of  one reality.
i do not think/speak (speaking thinking is also  connected) ab. politics as existing by self, for self; not connected with any other subject. 
politics or religion are mere aspects of one nature.
i'm afraid  that most people  in canada and US would call me crazy  if i told them this. to them politics  is politics.  why talk  ab. warfare, music, geography, religion?
then i use  a threestep method in evaluating any stuation.
1. on this level i adduce some or  all  salient facts that  pertain.  on this level i also use  descriptive language;  one describes to one's best knowledge what is going on.
only factual and descriptive statements can be evaluated as true  or false. 
then draw  conclusion. in case  of  US' ruling class  war against  iraqi people, i conclude that the agression was not a mistake but a deed that is punishable. and i  leave it  to  judges to pronounce the sentence.
on level  three, i suggest  US begin  withdraing their troops a s soon  as UN  troops  become available to replace  them.
i can do no more than that. alas, alack, we or most of us can guess that US will  not leave iraq  for who knows how long. 
sinc e i believe in devil of my own maybe he'l  intercede.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joed. thanx for the inmput.<br />
here&#8217;s how  i  think/use langauge.<br />
 any topic of whatever kind (music, geograophy, education,  politics, religion) is part of  one reality.<br />
i do not think/speak (speaking thinking is also  connected) ab. politics as existing by self, for self; not connected with any other subject.<br />
politics or religion are mere aspects of one nature.<br />
i&#8217;m afraid  that most people  in canada and US would call me crazy  if i told them this. to them politics  is politics.  why talk  ab. warfare, music, geography, religion?<br />
then i use  a threestep method in evaluating any stuation.<br />
1. on this level i adduce some or  all  salient facts that  pertain.  on this level i also use  descriptive language;  one describes to one&#8217;s best knowledge what is going on.<br />
only factual and descriptive statements can be evaluated as true  or false.<br />
then draw  conclusion. in case  of  US&#8217; ruling class  war against  iraqi people, i conclude that the agression was not a mistake but a deed that is punishable. and i  leave it  to  judges to pronounce the sentence.<br />
on level  three, i suggest  US begin  withdraing their troops a s soon  as UN  troops  become available to replace  them.<br />
i can do no more than that. alas, alack, we or most of us can guess that US will  not leave iraq  for who knows how long.<br />
sinc e i believe in devil of my own maybe he&#8217;l  intercede.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john wilkinson. thanx for the elucidation. but i hope u understand  my evaluation of  the  unquoted  labels.  
it may have been a lot better  to have  written  'rabble',  'uneducated'  to indicate  that  these  symbols   w.o.,  under  double, or  single quotes, still have false to fact symbolic value
the point i'm making  is to avoid labeling  as much as it is possible; all labeling  leaves out  imporatant characteristics.
still  at times i may use  term  like  a "housewife".  but i only use it as a shortcut to what generally a  house wife does.  thus that label  is not dysphemistic  but is  often necessary to use in order not to  be too verbose.
i  seldom, if  ever,  label  even  bush. i don't need to do that; i know what he is doing and that's good enough for me. thank u
on occ'n i point this out in my posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john wilkinson. thanx for the elucidation. but i hope u understand  my evaluation of  the  unquoted  labels.<br />
it may have been a lot better  to have  written  &#8216;rabble&#8217;,  &#8216;uneducated&#8217;  to indicate  that  these  symbols   w.o.,  under  double, or  single quotes, still have false to fact symbolic value<br />
the point i&#8217;m making  is to avoid labeling  as much as it is possible; all labeling  leaves out  imporatant characteristics.<br />
still  at times i may use  term  like  a &#8220;housewife&#8221;.  but i only use it as a shortcut to what generally a  house wife does.  thus that label  is not dysphemistic  but is  often necessary to use in order not to  be too verbose.<br />
i  seldom, if  ever,  label  even  bush. i don&#8217;t need to do that; i know what he is doing and that&#8217;s good enough for me. thank u<br />
on occ&#8217;n i point this out in my posts</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19851</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'A society of cheaters and the cheated.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;A society of cheaters and the cheated.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19850</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I meant by "rabble" -- I should have put it in quotes, sorry, as I include myself, is the majority of us who are powerless and the word describes the attitude of the elites -- on the LEFT as well as the right, of using us for their means and ends.  Facts don't matter, just scare the living hell out of them, or put up some bullshit issue that they, good christians that they are, should care about.

As for "uneducated" -- well that's most Americans.  See my comments on a recent article on the Florida budget mess, in which I have a couple of examples.  You can't count.  Anything with numbers is anathema, treated with disgust and fear.  You can't spell.  Don't know how to use your own language.  Basic grammatical errors -- just look at the articles and comments.  Geography?  Do we need to go on?  And it's easy to manipulate people like that, just look at the number of scams out there and how people fall for them.  Just look at the number of innocent people in jails, put there by the juries of "believers".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I meant by &#8220;rabble&#8221; &#8212; I should have put it in quotes, sorry, as I include myself, is the majority of us who are powerless and the word describes the attitude of the elites &#8212; on the LEFT as well as the right, of using us for their means and ends.  Facts don&#8217;t matter, just scare the living hell out of them, or put up some bullshit issue that they, good christians that they are, should care about.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;uneducated&#8221; &#8212; well that&#8217;s most Americans.  See my comments on a recent article on the Florida budget mess, in which I have a couple of examples.  You can&#8217;t count.  Anything with numbers is anathema, treated with disgust and fear.  You can&#8217;t spell.  Don&#8217;t know how to use your own language.  Basic grammatical errors &#8212; just look at the articles and comments.  Geography?  Do we need to go on?  And it&#8217;s easy to manipulate people like that, just look at the number of scams out there and how people fall for them.  Just look at the number of innocent people in jails, put there by the juries of &#8220;believers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19846</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention one of the most incredibly impossible but true happenings of the 20th century.
Rwanda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention one of the most incredibly impossible but true happenings of the 20th century.<br />
Rwanda.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19845</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Wilkinson,
thanks for the skepticism and rational thinking .  i don't think Ms. Fleming is able to come up with the references necessary to back up her numbers.  she is prolific and her articles are odd and bouffant; i am becoming something of a fan.  i think she may be sub-rosa either whicken or a Gothic Chick.  when i was in the usmc i got in lots of trouble because i refused to take them serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Wilkinson,<br />
thanks for the skepticism and rational thinking .  i don&#8217;t think Ms. Fleming is able to come up with the references necessary to back up her numbers.  she is prolific and her articles are odd and bouffant; i am becoming something of a fan.  i think she may be sub-rosa either whicken or a Gothic Chick.  when i was in the usmc i got in lots of trouble because i refused to take them serious.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19844</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America, every year, about 20,000 people are killed by handguns.  Since WW2, close to a MILLION have been killed thus, here, including many children.  I submit to you that conventional weapons are a much greater menace.  I would ban ALL weapons, but seems to me the ones that are causing most mayhem should be first.

In any case, as long as there's knowledge how to build weapons, the weapons will be here.  The knowledge to build nuclear weapons is there, too, just like other weapons.  Yes, given enough time, more and more countries will have them, and given enough time they will be used, unless something intercedes in our development.  But an occasional use pales in consequences to the carnage by other means, already experienced every day.

Additionally, 40,000 are killed on roadways every year, here.  And a million more greviously injured, many in wheelchairs for the rest of their lives.  That's 1 MILLION killed just since Reagan was in office.  So, why don't we agitate for something to be done here, about our transportation system which, in addition causes untold misery, economic hardship, time wasted, etc.?

Instead, a useless petition that won't even be read.  Those cumulative energies would be better spent feeding just one hungry child for just one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, every year, about 20,000 people are killed by handguns.  Since WW2, close to a MILLION have been killed thus, here, including many children.  I submit to you that conventional weapons are a much greater menace.  I would ban ALL weapons, but seems to me the ones that are causing most mayhem should be first.</p>
<p>In any case, as long as there&#8217;s knowledge how to build weapons, the weapons will be here.  The knowledge to build nuclear weapons is there, too, just like other weapons.  Yes, given enough time, more and more countries will have them, and given enough time they will be used, unless something intercedes in our development.  But an occasional use pales in consequences to the carnage by other means, already experienced every day.</p>
<p>Additionally, 40,000 are killed on roadways every year, here.  And a million more greviously injured, many in wheelchairs for the rest of their lives.  That&#8217;s 1 MILLION killed just since Reagan was in office.  So, why don&#8217;t we agitate for something to be done here, about our transportation system which, in addition causes untold misery, economic hardship, time wasted, etc.?</p>
<p>Instead, a useless petition that won&#8217;t even be read.  Those cumulative energies would be better spent feeding just one hungry child for just one day.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19843</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In WW2, 50 MILLION people were killed, more than half of them civilians, by conventional weapons.  In Hiroshima/Nagasaki, about 100-200 thousand died in each city.  One night of firebombing of Tokyo produced the same number, or more, casualties (that is killed immediatelly, not the many others who had their skin burned and suffered without hospital care for days, weeks, months, before dying).  The same for Hamburg, Dresden, etc. (since we don't care what was done to our side).  Yes, there were delayed effects also, but the same is true of the others, they were just of a different kind.  In Iraq, 1 million have been killed with conventional weapons, and 4 million displaced and their lives totally destroyed.

During the cold war, there would have been a hot war, for sure, a thousand times over, but for the nuclear weapons.  Do you think they would have hesitated, even for a microsecond, while sitting in their armchairs in Washington and Moscow, to send others to die?  (Many, many more others than died in WW2).  Yes, but it's different now, when THEY and THEIR families might die.  Now, they are a little more cautious, unless dealing with countries without nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In WW2, 50 MILLION people were killed, more than half of them civilians, by conventional weapons.  In Hiroshima/Nagasaki, about 100-200 thousand died in each city.  One night of firebombing of Tokyo produced the same number, or more, casualties (that is killed immediatelly, not the many others who had their skin burned and suffered without hospital care for days, weeks, months, before dying).  The same for Hamburg, Dresden, etc. (since we don&#8217;t care what was done to our side).  Yes, there were delayed effects also, but the same is true of the others, they were just of a different kind.  In Iraq, 1 million have been killed with conventional weapons, and 4 million displaced and their lives totally destroyed.</p>
<p>During the cold war, there would have been a hot war, for sure, a thousand times over, but for the nuclear weapons.  Do you think they would have hesitated, even for a microsecond, while sitting in their armchairs in Washington and Moscow, to send others to die?  (Many, many more others than died in WW2).  Yes, but it&#8217;s different now, when THEY and THEIR families might die.  Now, they are a little more cautious, unless dealing with countries without nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19842</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozhidar,
i don't know!  seems "critical thinking"  is a special way of thinking about any subject.  my guess is that i have had to overcome much of the propaganda and nonsense that i learned as a young person.  this is a life long struggle for me.  to think critically means to overcome your cultural view and actually see what is rational and reasonable when the evidence is considered.  the evidence must be real and hard and proper evidence.  anicdotal evidence for example is not acceptable.
belief in god or jesus is not allowed by critical thought because there is no real evidence for either.  so, as you can see i am not an expert here, but it seems to me that getting rid of all these beliefs is the proper move.  the void created by removal of belief should not be filled in with anything.  the void is reality.  sorry to disapoint you but this is the very best i can do today because i really dont care about being right or being anything at this moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozhidar,<br />
i don&#8217;t know!  seems &#8220;critical thinking&#8221;  is a special way of thinking about any subject.  my guess is that i have had to overcome much of the propaganda and nonsense that i learned as a young person.  this is a life long struggle for me.  to think critically means to overcome your cultural view and actually see what is rational and reasonable when the evidence is considered.  the evidence must be real and hard and proper evidence.  anicdotal evidence for example is not acceptable.<br />
belief in god or jesus is not allowed by critical thought because there is no real evidence for either.  so, as you can see i am not an expert here, but it seems to me that getting rid of all these beliefs is the proper move.  the void created by removal of belief should not be filled in with anything.  the void is reality.  sorry to disapoint you but this is the very best i can do today because i really dont care about being right or being anything at this moment.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19841</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 20 kT, not 12.  (Underestimate was used for greater impact).  Judeo-Christian religion is not the epitome of goodness, but of evil.  So, 4 errors in the opening sentence.

The figure of $100M per day for maintenance of nuclear weapons seems to be fictitious.  According to the 2007 and 2008 budget figures for Dept. of Energy, $6.5 billion was spent on all weapons activities (that's approximately $17M per day), but out of that total, only $350M was spent on nuc. weapon maintenance -- that's $1M per day, or 100 times smaller than quoted.  A reference is quoted in the text, which is incomplete and thus inaccessible to the reader.

In any case, let's assume that the $100M/day figure is correct (which it is not).  That's $36B per year.  I'd rather pay that and have it wasted on a weapon which will never be used, than pay roughly $1 trillion (TRILLION!) per year on the conventional weapons, which are used, which are a menace to us all, which cause us to be hated and visit untold misery on others, and which will bankrupt us and our children -- this is money that's coming out of our savings, our future, education, health, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 20 kT, not 12.  (Underestimate was used for greater impact).  Judeo-Christian religion is not the epitome of goodness, but of evil.  So, 4 errors in the opening sentence.</p>
<p>The figure of $100M per day for maintenance of nuclear weapons seems to be fictitious.  According to the 2007 and 2008 budget figures for Dept. of Energy, $6.5 billion was spent on all weapons activities (that&#8217;s approximately $17M per day), but out of that total, only $350M was spent on nuc. weapon maintenance &#8212; that&#8217;s $1M per day, or 100 times smaller than quoted.  A reference is quoted in the text, which is incomplete and thus inaccessible to the reader.</p>
<p>In any case, let&#8217;s assume that the $100M/day figure is correct (which it is not).  That&#8217;s $36B per year.  I&#8217;d rather pay that and have it wasted on a weapon which will never be used, than pay roughly $1 trillion (TRILLION!) per year on the conventional weapons, which are used, which are a menace to us all, which cause us to be hated and visit untold misery on others, and which will bankrupt us and our children &#8212; this is money that&#8217;s coming out of our savings, our future, education, health, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/imagine-one-world-without-nuclear-weapons/#comment-19839</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tropical cyclone has killed at least 243 people in Burma and damaged thousands of buildings, according to state television. 
Parts of the Irrawaddy region were hit particularly badly, with three out of four buildings reportedly blown down in one district. 
Burma has declared Irrawaddy and four other regions, including the main city Rangoon, to be disaster areas. 
Rangoon has been without power and water, its streets full of debris. 
Winds of about 190km/h (120mph) battered the Irrawaddy, Rangoon, Bago, Karen and Mon regions. 
"I have never seen anything like it," one retired government worker told Reuters. 
"It reminded me of when Hurricane Katrina hit the United States."  BBC
 
 Here is the forecast for the States and yes I know for the last two years no big ones hit the US.  The oceans are warming and you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
 The TSR (Tropical Storm Risk) April forecast update for Atlantic hurricane activity in 2008 continues to
anticipate an active season to high probability. Based on current and projected climate signals, Atlantic
basin and US landfalling tropical cyclone activity are forecast to be about 35% above the 1950-2007 norm
in 2008. There is a high (~63%) likelihood that activity will be in the top one-third of years historically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tropical cyclone has killed at least 243 people in Burma and damaged thousands of buildings, according to state television.<br />
Parts of the Irrawaddy region were hit particularly badly, with three out of four buildings reportedly blown down in one district.<br />
Burma has declared Irrawaddy and four other regions, including the main city Rangoon, to be disaster areas.<br />
Rangoon has been without power and water, its streets full of debris.<br />
Winds of about 190km/h (120mph) battered the Irrawaddy, Rangoon, Bago, Karen and Mon regions.<br />
&#8220;I have never seen anything like it,&#8221; one retired government worker told Reuters.<br />
&#8220;It reminded me of when Hurricane Katrina hit the United States.&#8221;  BBC</p>
<p> Here is the forecast for the States and yes I know for the last two years no big ones hit the US.  The oceans are warming and you don&#8217;t have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.<br />
 The TSR (Tropical Storm Risk) April forecast update for Atlantic hurricane activity in 2008 continues to<br />
anticipate an active season to high probability. Based on current and projected climate signals, Atlantic<br />
basin and US landfalling tropical cyclone activity are forecast to be about 35% above the 1950-2007 norm<br />
in 2008. There is a high (~63%) likelihood that activity will be in the top one-third of years historically.</p>
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