Comments on: Hillary Clinton’s “Final Solution” to the Persian Problem http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:35:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: puddy dunne http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-21096 puddy dunne Sat, 24 May 2008 18:11:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-21096 Great writing of the most obvious. We can only hope Obama's campaign rhetoric regarding AIPAC and Zionism is a means to garner the vote needed to win office. Where theres smoke theres fire. Pastor Wright may be extremist in his views of the Zionist-Global conspiriacy but it still renders considerable accuracy. Hopefully Obama balances the weight of both ideologies. Great writing of the most obvious. We can only hope Obama’s campaign rhetoric regarding AIPAC and Zionism is a means to garner the vote needed to win office. Where theres smoke theres fire. Pastor Wright may be extremist in his views of the Zionist-Global conspiriacy but it still renders considerable accuracy. Hopefully Obama balances the weight of both ideologies.

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20455 Mike McNiven Wed, 14 May 2008 22:01:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20455 two very helpful links from those who are anti-imperialist and anti-zionism: http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05142008.html http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/stop-obliterating-yourself/ two very helpful links from those who are anti-imperialist and anti-zionism:
http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05142008.html

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/stop-obliterating-yourself/

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20448 Mike McNiven Wed, 14 May 2008 20:56:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20448 To Deadbeat, Thank you for reminding me to say that Clinton's racism does not make Obama's racism permissible! Obama's praise for Ronald Reagan is proof enough. His sick intention to bomb the most impoverished parts of Pakistan, is another. Take another look at Fanon. ( Clinton has suggested the possibility of the same imperialistic negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran that Obama is suggesting too! ) To Deadbeat,

Thank you for reminding me to say that Clinton’s racism does not make Obama’s racism permissible! Obama’s praise for Ronald Reagan is proof enough. His sick intention to bomb the most impoverished parts of Pakistan, is another. Take another look at Fanon.

( Clinton has suggested the possibility of the same imperialistic negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran that Obama is suggesting too! )

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20440 bozhidar balkas Wed, 14 May 2008 19:04:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20440 edwin pell', i'm not american. so i defer to u reagarding number of people ruling america. i also agree that it is stratified. thanx for reply. edwin pell’,
i’m not american. so i defer to u reagarding number of people ruling america. i also agree that it is stratified. thanx for reply.

]]> By: Arch Stanton http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20434 Arch Stanton Wed, 14 May 2008 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20434 "According to a 2006 Pew Research Center poll, fully 44 percent of Americans believe that “God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people” and 36 percent believe the “creation of the state of Israel is a step toward the Second Coming of Jesus.”" ROFLMAO! Holy brain damage Batman! Maybe "God" will keep the "American" economy afloat for the next century. And maybe "God" will keep the US "mission" in the Middle East from turning into a catastrophe (I mean more than it already is). And maybe "God" will keep the arctic caps from melting like watercolors in the rain. Then again, maybe "He" won't. "God is not on our side because he hates idiots also." --Clint Eastwood “According to a 2006 Pew Research Center poll, fully 44 percent of Americans believe that “God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people” and 36 percent believe the “creation of the state of Israel is a step toward the Second Coming of Jesus.””

ROFLMAO! Holy brain damage Batman! Maybe “God” will keep the “American” economy afloat for the next century. And maybe “God” will keep the US “mission” in the Middle East from turning into a catastrophe (I mean more than it already is). And maybe “God” will keep the arctic caps from melting like watercolors in the rain. Then again, maybe “He” won’t.

“God is not on our side because he hates idiots also.”

–Clint Eastwood

]]> By: Edwin Pell http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20412 Edwin Pell Wed, 14 May 2008 16:37:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20412 Bozhidar I agree the US has a ruling class but I would say no more than 1 million plutocrats and even they have a hierarchy. Let's make three groups the one million, then the 100,000 most powerful and then the 10,000 most powerful. It would be interesting to have information on each of these groups. Members, wealth, primary residence, schooling, family relationships, beliefs, religion, age, health, etc... Bozhidar I agree the US has a ruling class but I would say no more than 1 million plutocrats and even they have a hierarchy. Let’s make three groups the one million, then the 100,000 most powerful and then the 10,000 most powerful. It would be interesting to have information on each of these groups. Members, wealth, primary residence, schooling, family relationships, beliefs, religion, age, health, etc…

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20404 bozhidar balkas Wed, 14 May 2008 13:38:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20404 even a prez is just a human being who's profession is politics. and presidents of US, as far as i can discern, do not rule US; US is governed by the ruling class; or ab. 5-10mn plutocrats. i pay no attention what obama says. i pay attention to facts. it seems to me every prez waged at least one war during his tenure. ok, the hell with predictions; knowing the past is enough for me. we also know that every war ever waged by US ruling class was based on lies. how else can u slaughter people? can u have truth and slaughter? can u have prudence, justice, nobility, good intentions while killing mns? of course, US ruling class does not count the people it slays directly or via proxi; only their own. thank u. even a prez is just a human being who’s profession is politics.
and presidents of US, as far as i can discern, do not rule US; US is governed by the ruling class; or ab. 5-10mn plutocrats.
i pay no attention what obama says. i pay attention to facts.
it seems to me every prez waged at least one war during his tenure.
ok, the hell with predictions; knowing the past is enough for me.
we also know that every war ever waged by US ruling class was based on lies.
how else can u slaughter people? can u have truth and slaughter?
can u have prudence, justice, nobility, good intentions while killing mns?
of course, US ruling class does not count the people it slays directly or via proxi; only their own. thank u.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20402 Deadbeat Wed, 14 May 2008 13:22:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20402 To Mike McNiven, For Obama negotiations is also an option. Far from the "racist" posturing of Clinton. To Mike McNiven,

For Obama negotiations is also an option. Far from the “racist” posturing of Clinton.

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20372 Mike McNiven Tue, 13 May 2008 21:05:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20372 Mr.Weitzel, The last two paragraphs of your writing shows that you consider the zionist Jews as a misinformed legitimate entity! Not only that is not an accurate representation of them, it is a very harmful formulation. Also, you did not mention that, after a very private meeting between Obama and the Israeli foreign minister -- in the US, right before the Pennsylvania primary -- Obama said: " ...when it comes to nuclear capabilities of Iran, all options are on the table..." He said these racist words the same night that Clinton said those racist words! (ABC News presidential debate in Pennssylvania in early May) Mr.Weitzel,

The last two paragraphs of your writing shows that you consider the zionist Jews as a misinformed legitimate entity! Not only that is not an accurate representation of them, it is a very harmful formulation.

Also, you did not mention that, after a very private meeting between Obama and the Israeli foreign minister — in the US, right before the Pennsylvania primary — Obama said: ” …when it comes to nuclear capabilities of Iran, all options are on the table…” He said these racist words the same night that Clinton said those racist words! (ABC News presidential debate in Pennssylvania in early May)

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20368 bozhidar balkas Tue, 13 May 2008 18:54:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20368 very interesting piece by Weitzel. i also think that zionism being an ideology (and all isms contain apsolutisms) will evanesce. future generations may be astounded that we (christian/communist lands) have rewarded and egged on such an anti-human ideology. the fact that yahweh has not given (given, and not promised) ashkenazim, mizrahim, and sephardim at least a continent of their own, proves that all of it is a scam/sham/ruse. even if zionists obtain either of the two regions 'promised' them , it would be still too poor, too small, and too vulnerable. thank u. very interesting piece by Weitzel. i also think that zionism being an ideology (and all isms contain apsolutisms) will evanesce.
future generations may be astounded that we (christian/communist lands) have rewarded and egged on such an anti-human ideology.
the fact that yahweh has not given (given, and not promised) ashkenazim, mizrahim, and sephardim at least a continent of their own, proves that all of it is a scam/sham/ruse.
even if zionists obtain either of the two regions ‘promised’ them , it would be still too poor, too small, and too vulnerable. thank u.

]]> By: evie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20367 evie Tue, 13 May 2008 18:33:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20367 Lol. If there were "105-135 million" born againers or evangelicals in the US they certainly have no clout on the social mores of the nation. Polls do not measure public opinion - they manufacture public opinion, or try to. As in Bubba says "Gee, if that many people think that way I should to." Bubba changes his opinion a lot. As for Iran not having nuclear warhead capability - not so fast there bucko. Iran was wheeling and dealing with France, the Netherlands, China, USSR, US, etc. in the 1970s for nuclear know-how. I would bet my sweet bippy Iran has been a nuclear power for a long time. Hagee's 19,000-member Cornerstone church may sound like a lot but it's only 1% of San Antonio population. And half of those folks probably don't believe half of what Hagee says - sort of like Obama who spent 20 years not listening closely to Rev. Wright sermons. No worry about those millions of copies of Left Behind - millions of those copies are bought up by religious organizations who pass them out to the flock who then take them home, and depending on the country, put them on the bookshelf unread or use the pages as kindling fire. "Hillary’s “final solution” to the Persian problem..." "...McCain’s “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran” off-key hyperbole..." Jewish Zionists Christian Zionists religion-drenched America..." That's good ... I used to write like that, when I was skeered. These people - zealots and pols/Zionists and Christians - are not using their positions to push End Times. They herd their sheeple and amass fortunes - in no way do they want to leave money behind, and there is no profit to nuking Iran. Lol. If there were “105-135 million” born againers or evangelicals in the US they certainly have no clout on the social mores of the nation. Polls do not measure public opinion - they manufacture public opinion, or try to. As in Bubba says “Gee, if that many people think that way I should to.” Bubba changes his opinion a lot.

As for Iran not having nuclear warhead capability - not so fast there bucko. Iran was wheeling and dealing with France, the Netherlands, China, USSR, US, etc. in the 1970s for nuclear know-how. I would bet my sweet bippy Iran has been a nuclear power for a long time.

Hagee’s 19,000-member Cornerstone church may sound like a lot but it’s only 1% of San Antonio population. And half of those folks probably don’t believe half of what Hagee says - sort of like Obama who spent 20 years not listening closely to Rev. Wright sermons.

No worry about those millions of copies of Left Behind - millions of those copies are bought up by religious organizations who pass them out to the flock who then take them home, and depending on the country, put them on the bookshelf unread or use the pages as kindling fire.

“Hillary’s “final solution” to the Persian problem…” “…McCain’s “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran” off-key hyperbole…” Jewish Zionists Christian Zionists religion-drenched America…” That’s good … I used to write like that, when I was skeered.

These people - zealots and pols/Zionists and Christians - are not using their positions to push End Times. They herd their sheeple and amass fortunes - in no way do they want to leave money behind, and there is no profit to nuking Iran.

]]> By: Edwin Pell http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20359 Edwin Pell Tue, 13 May 2008 17:14:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20359 In politics you get what you pay for. Judging from Clinton's behavior she gets a lot of her money from Zionists. I remember when she was running for Senate here in New York for the first time. She visited Kingston, New York to give a speech. In order to be able to say she visited the "Holocaust Museum" (we do not have a Holocaust Museum) she had a banner saying "Holocaust Museum" put over the sign on the "Maritime Museum". You do not do this unless you need the votes and money. In politics you get what you pay for. Judging from Clinton’s behavior she gets a lot of her money from Zionists. I remember when she was running for Senate here in New York for the first time. She visited Kingston, New York to give a speech. In order to be able to say she visited the “Holocaust Museum” (we do not have a Holocaust Museum) she had a banner saying “Holocaust Museum” put over the sign on the “Maritime Museum”. You do not do this unless you need the votes and money.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/hillary-clinton%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cfinal-solution%e2%80%9d-to-the-persian-problem/#comment-20358 hp Tue, 13 May 2008 17:01:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=1998#comment-20358 Oh for the good old days, when one judged a Presidential candidate on their promise(s) of what they will do for America, not on what they will do for Israel. Oh for the good old days, when one judged a Presidential candidate on their promise(s) of what they will do for America, not on what they will do for Israel.

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