Comments on: My Body Is Crying Blood http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:26:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Annie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-19015 Annie Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:35:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-19015 I said...Huh? I said…Huh?

]]> By: evie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18959 evie Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:26:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18959 Well geese Lloyd, if more people/corporations were independent of government give aways maybe they would not be afraid of getting off their fat butts and challenging the system. Too many people gripe about government but expect it to take care of them, a nation of adolescents. My children, two are Army, two are Marine Corp, 18 years in, 15 years in, 5 years in, 6 years in. Bush pilot, hacienda, etc. are their plans after getting out of the military. Three of my daughters-in-law are Mexican nationals - that's the son retiring from military to live/work in Zacatecas on in-laws ranch. Your original post bleated the tired idea of returning troops from Iraq were somehow going to be a threat to the rest of us. As if anyone in uniform likes killing. Most are going to be productive citizens. Well geese Lloyd, if more people/corporations were independent of government give aways maybe they would not be afraid of getting off their fat butts and challenging the system. Too many people gripe about government but expect it to take care of them, a nation of adolescents.

My children, two are Army, two are Marine Corp, 18 years in, 15 years in, 5 years in, 6 years in. Bush pilot, hacienda, etc. are their plans after getting out of the military. Three of my daughters-in-law are Mexican nationals - that’s the son retiring from military to live/work in Zacatecas on in-laws ranch.

Your original post bleated the tired idea of returning troops from Iraq were somehow going to be a threat to the rest of us. As if anyone in uniform likes killing. Most are going to be productive citizens.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18947 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:41:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18947 But most sorry sorry you have such a sorry opinion of people who couldn't afford to "procure an umbrella, b/c they believe the government will give them one." evie, sweetie. Sheeeeesh. But most sorry sorry you have such a sorry opinion of people who couldn’t afford to “procure an umbrella, b/c they believe the government will give them one.” evie, sweetie.

Sheeeeesh.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18946 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:35:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18946 Sorry sorry again. What you posted, evie, was: "Now Lloyd, my 4 children in uniform do not identify themselves with killing civilians. In fact, 2 are in real estate development with their wives and doing okay, 1 plans on being a bush pilot in Alaska for ritzy tourists, and another plans on retiring to a Zacatecas hacienda and work his in-laws ranch. The hard rain is gonna fall on all those who, in and out of uniform, have bellyached the past 8 years but didn’t procure an umbrella, b/c they believe the government will give them one." Beneath James Petras' April 18 article. Sorry sorry again. What you posted, evie, was:

“Now Lloyd, my 4 children in uniform do not identify themselves with killing civilians. In fact, 2 are in real estate development with their wives and doing okay, 1 plans on being a bush pilot in Alaska for ritzy tourists, and another plans on retiring to a Zacatecas hacienda and work his in-laws ranch.

The hard rain is gonna fall on all those who, in and out of uniform, have bellyached the past 8 years but didn’t procure an umbrella, b/c they believe the government will give them one.”

Beneath James Petras’ April 18 article.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18945 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:25:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18945 Sorry sorry. Another thread, but surely you haven't forgot, evie? Your reposte to my comment about how America's returning its uniformed warriors from abroad would be worse than its decades of furthering the immigration of the richest and most accomplished from countries all over the planet that moved leftward? Your reposte pointing out that you have a bush pilot son in Alaska, and another offspring doing remunerated progressive work elsewhere? You didn't actually say they were wearing uniforms, I just gave you credit for making your reposte "four-square" with my complaint. Evidently, we have giant political differences too, evie, if you think Hollywood is a force for progressive change in this country, or ever has been. Sorry sorry. Another thread, but surely you haven’t forgot, evie? Your reposte to my comment about how America’s returning its uniformed warriors from abroad would be worse than its decades of furthering the immigration of the richest and most accomplished from countries all over the planet that moved leftward? Your reposte pointing out that you have a bush pilot son in Alaska, and another offspring doing remunerated progressive work elsewhere?

You didn’t actually say they were wearing uniforms, I just gave you credit for making your reposte “four-square” with my complaint.

Evidently, we have giant political differences too, evie, if you think Hollywood is a force for progressive change in this country, or ever has been.

]]> By: evie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18942 evie Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:15:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18942 Lloyd You lost me, private contractors? sheep/lamb? progressive/private trip? heart of the beast? Lloyd
You lost me, private contractors? sheep/lamb? progressive/private trip? heart of the beast?

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18938 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:00:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18938 Whoaaaaa. I just noticed Diane's posts carry the immaculate "DV" logo and coloring! Maybe I'm spaced out, but have ALL authors had this dispensation in the past, and I just overlooked it, or do we now have FOUR editors to abuse? Evie. I have to admit I agree almost completely with the disparaging comments following your admission that you have children wearing the uniforms of private contractors in the Allnewballgame. Moreover, I'm proud that MY child would rather be hung for a sheep than a lamb, and IF he's selling out, he's not pussy-footing with some confused progressive/private trip, but going right to the heart of the beast -- Hollyfuckingwood!! Whoaaaaa. I just noticed Diane’s posts carry the immaculate “DV” logo and coloring! Maybe I’m spaced out, but have ALL authors had this dispensation in the past, and I just overlooked it, or do we now have FOUR editors to abuse?

Evie. I have to admit I agree almost completely with the disparaging comments following your admission that you have children wearing the uniforms of private contractors in the Allnewballgame. Moreover, I’m proud that MY child would rather be hung for a sheep than a lamb, and IF he’s selling out, he’s not pussy-footing with some confused progressive/private trip, but going right to the heart of the beast — Hollyfuckingwood!!

]]> By: evie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18926 evie Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:56:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18926 Gosh Diane, I'll have to pass. I haven't dabble in magic realism in years and years, not since smoking maui owie with my best friend in the Rocky Mountains and taking reeds down to the stream to weave baskets - I kid you not. Gosh Diane, I’ll have to pass. I haven’t dabble in magic realism in years and years, not since smoking maui owie with my best friend in the Rocky Mountains and taking reeds down to the stream to weave baskets - I kid you not.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18924 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:26:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18924 I think she meant "here" at Dissident Voice, Annie. But I don't have a clue whether Diane's next submission to them will be "published" by DeeVee. I think she meant “here” at Dissident Voice, Annie. But I don’t have a clue whether Diane’s next submission to them will be “published” by DeeVee.

]]> By: Annie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18878 Annie Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:07:37 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18878 Huh? Huh?

]]> By: Diane Wittner http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18874 Diane Wittner Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:22:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18874 Whew! Online discussions at DV sure are high end! If I may shift the discourse, I humbly request that you write and then post here your own magic realist comment. My suggested guidelines: your piece should have 1) the title ‘My Body is Crying Blood” 2) seven sentences, as seven can symbolize balance, completion and perfection….and, 3) our global war economy as its underlying theme. Magic realist writers have been described by some literary critics as representing ‘the other.' Tempted anyone? Whew! Online discussions at DV sure are high end! If I may shift the discourse, I humbly request that you write and then post here your own magic realist comment. My suggested guidelines: your piece should have 1) the title ‘My Body is Crying Blood” 2) seven sentences, as seven can symbolize balance, completion and perfection….and, 3) our global war economy as its underlying theme. Magic realist writers have been described by some literary critics as representing ‘the other.’ Tempted anyone?

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18828 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:55:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18828 Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhāgavata Purāṇa propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are fully pure in heart. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. Such truth uproots the threefold miseries. This beautiful Bhāgavatam, compiled by the great sage Vyāsadeva [in his maturity], is sufficient in itself for God realization. What is the need of any other scripture? As soon as one attentively and submissively hears the message of Bhāgavatam, by this culture of knowledge the Supreme Lord is established within his heart. Thanks a lot HP it looks like a few weeks of reading I'll be back. Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhāgavata Purāṇa propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are fully pure in heart. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. Such truth uproots the threefold miseries. This beautiful Bhāgavatam, compiled by the great sage Vyāsadeva [in his maturity], is sufficient in itself for God realization. What is the need of any other scripture? As soon as one attentively and submissively hears the message of Bhāgavatam, by this culture of knowledge the Supreme Lord is established within his heart.
Thanks a lot HP it looks like a few weeks of reading I’ll be back.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18823 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:06:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18823 Alright I will read this. Alright I will read this.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18819 hp Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:34:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18819 'When I read the Bhagavad Gita and reflect about how God created this universe, everything else seems so superfluous.' Einstein I suggest the Srimad Bhagavatam. ‘When I read the Bhagavad Gita and reflect about how God created this universe, everything else seems so superfluous.’
Einstein

I suggest the Srimad Bhagavatam.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18817 hp Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:30:09 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18817 Which big bang? Hawking is a theorist. Remember? Which big bang?
Hawking is a theorist. Remember?

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18810 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:52:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18810 Wait one little minute here HP. Are you saying time and space was here before the big bang? Oh yes probably and I am sure has kept Steven Hawking thinking late at night. Wait one little minute here HP. Are you saying time and space was here before the big bang? Oh yes probably and I am sure has kept Steven Hawking thinking late at night.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18808 hp Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:41:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18808 It takes MahaVishnu 311 trillion years to take one breath. The life of Brahma. It takes MahaVishnu 311 trillion years to take one breath. The life of Brahma.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18794 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:40:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18794 Einstein's stuff was taken by today's scientists and more has been learned in just the last 25 years than the last 1000 years. There is a little battle going on think of it as a war. Knowledge verses matrixland or dream land. Here is only one example and that is the Earth is 4.5 billion years old not 6 thousand years old. Is there a create tor? I would think so but has nothing to do with the age of this planet. Einstein’s stuff was taken by today’s scientists and more has been learned in just the last 25 years than the last 1000 years. There is a little battle going on think of it as a war. Knowledge verses matrixland or dream land. Here is only one example and that is the Earth is 4.5 billion years old not 6 thousand years old. Is there a create tor? I would think so but has nothing to do with the age of this planet.

]]> By: maha http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18776 maha Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:18:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18776 yeah, einstein danced alright when he stole other people's ideas and called them his own. And even though up to date measurements no longer match "his" theory they still persist. why? because we're not allowed to know the truth.. yeah, einstein danced alright when he stole other people’s ideas and called them his own. And even though up to date measurements no longer match “his” theory they still persist. why? because we’re not allowed to know the truth..

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18759 Don Hawkins Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:07:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/04/my-body-is-crying-blood/#comment-18759 Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible player. Albert Einstein Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible player. Albert Einstein

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