Comments on: Documents Reveal “Reverse-Engineered” SERE Tactics Used in Afghan Torture

By: evie

evie — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:32:42 +0000

Has anyone read all of the .pdf documents on the ACLU site regarding this matter?

By: Lloyd Rowsey

Lloyd Rowsey — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:55:50 +0000

“The common law” are words of art, hp, used by lawyers. In fact, they refer to what used to comprise almost all of the the teachings of the first year of law schools in America — the (judge-made) laws of England as they developed over centuries. Such law has been almost completely replaced by legislated law, seemingly so different but similarly made by and reflecting the interests of the wealthy and powerful.

Jackson had hope. Stone faced squarely toward the past. The same choice we still have.

By: hp

hp — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:28:22 +0000

“Jackson (Supreme Court judge) is away conducting his high grade lynching party in Nuremberg. I don’t mind what he does to the Nazis, but I hate to see the pretense that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old fashioned ideas.”
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court,
Harlan Fiske Stone

By: hp

hp — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:17:13 +0000

Which may be construed to mean; maybe you don’t believe in karma, but karma certainly believes in you.

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:32:58 +0000

BTW people, pay special attention to Principle VII.

“You can’t find justice, it’ll find you.”

By: Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:03 +0000

Principles of International Law Recognized in the Charter of the Nüremberg Tribunal and in the Judgment of the Tribunal, 1950.

Principle I

Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefor and liable to punishment.

Principle II

The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.

Principle III

The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.

Principle IV

The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.

Principle V

Any person charged with a crime under international law has the right to a fair trial on the facts and law.

Principle VI

The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

(a) Crimes against peace:
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

(b) War crimes:
Violations of the laws or customs of war include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave-labour or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war, of persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity.

(c) Crimes against humanity:
Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian population, or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds, when such acts are done or such persecutions are carried on in execution of or in connexion with any crime against peace or any war crime.

Principle VII

Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.