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	<title>Comments on: The Meaning of Gaza’s &#8220;Shoah&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/the-meaning-of-gaza%e2%80%99s-shoah/#comment-16056</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not waxing anything, simply sharing information from a first hand source who WAS THERE. A man who had no idealogical side to prop up nor any reason to enhance the reputations of men who shot holes in him. Just a farm boy who happened to BE THERE. 
Patton said the same thing. But I guess an article from ONE obscure former VOLUNTEER  negates Patton's words too.
And the words of the US Supreme Court Chief Justice, Harlan Fiske Stone who said; "Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas."
This sure helped to "straighten out my thinking," sk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not waxing anything, simply sharing information from a first hand source who WAS THERE. A man who had no idealogical side to prop up nor any reason to enhance the reputations of men who shot holes in him. Just a farm boy who happened to BE THERE.<br />
Patton said the same thing. But I guess an article from ONE obscure former VOLUNTEER  negates Patton&#8217;s words too.<br />
And the words of the US Supreme Court Chief Justice, Harlan Fiske Stone who said; &#8220;Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas.&#8221;<br />
This sure helped to &#8220;straighten out my thinking,&#8221; sk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/the-meaning-of-gaza%e2%80%99s-shoah/#comment-16055</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime wrote, ". . . Zionists are quite literally identical to the Nazi and far-right groups." This might not be exactly what he meant to say but it is exactly what he did say. "Word for word." A case of sloppy, careless writing? Or a rare moment of truth telling on his part? Or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime wrote, &#8220;. . . Zionists are quite literally identical to the Nazi and far-right groups.&#8221; This might not be exactly what he meant to say but it is exactly what he did say. &#8220;Word for word.&#8221; A case of sloppy, careless writing? Or a rare moment of truth telling on his part? Or both?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Alba</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/the-meaning-of-gaza%e2%80%99s-shoah/#comment-16031</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Alba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael McKnight said, "Im sure you were among those trying to convince everyone that &lt;a href="http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-of-the-century/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ahmadinejad was ‘misquoted’&lt;/a&gt; in the meanwhile."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael McKnight said, &#8220;Im sure you were among those trying to convince everyone that <a href="http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-of-the-century/" rel="nofollow">Ahmadinejad was ‘misquoted’</a> in the meanwhile.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragging in unrelated--that is, nothing to do with the people or government of this country--atrocity stories is an old diversionary ploy designed to muddy the waters as shown in this &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoiU5f30YrY" rel="nofollow"&gt;clip&lt;/a&gt; of Noam Chomsky being questioned by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frum" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Frum&lt;/a&gt;, the Neoconservative sloganeer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragging in unrelated&#8211;that is, nothing to do with the people or government of this country&#8211;atrocity stories is an old diversionary ploy designed to muddy the waters as shown in this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoiU5f30YrY" rel="nofollow">clip</a> of Noam Chomsky being questioned by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frum" rel="nofollow">David Frum</a>, the Neoconservative sloganeer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/the-meaning-of-gaza%e2%80%99s-shoah/#comment-16029</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a crock.  Im sure you were among those trying to convince everyone that Ahmadinejad was 'misquoted' in the meanwhile.  Look at the nations in the region and measure their compliance with standards of human rights and then see if whining about Israel still seems justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a crock.  Im sure you were among those trying to convince everyone that Ahmadinejad was &#8216;misquoted&#8217; in the meanwhile.  Look at the nations in the region and measure their compliance with standards of human rights and then see if whining about Israel still seems justified.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, some Nazis affect sympathy for Palestinians (such as the bunch of creeps in &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU0sQl7n9Js" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; clip), and those who wax lyrical about the Waffen SS need to either learn from the harrowing experience of non-German Waffen SS volunteers (here's one &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhA2gA2hcrs" rel="nofollow"&gt;case&lt;/a&gt;, though the interview is incomplete in this clip) and straighten out their thinking or search for some Nazi haunt on the web for reminiscing. Those of us at DV who support the Palestinian cause for reasons rooted in Enlightenment universalism can do without sympathy from those still awestruck by the Nazis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, some Nazis affect sympathy for Palestinians (such as the bunch of creeps in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU0sQl7n9Js" rel="nofollow">this</a> clip), and those who wax lyrical about the Waffen SS need to either learn from the harrowing experience of non-German Waffen SS volunteers (here&#8217;s one <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhA2gA2hcrs" rel="nofollow">case</a>, though the interview is incomplete in this clip) and straighten out their thinking or search for some Nazi haunt on the web for reminiscing. Those of us at DV who support the Palestinian cause for reasons rooted in Enlightenment universalism can do without sympathy from those still awestruck by the Nazis.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I don't believe the so-called holocaust was anything at all as depicted. As you know, none of this was even mentioned in Churchill and Ike's memoirs. Not one mention in thousands of pages.
My father was with Patton, the 25th cavalry. Fairly famous bunch who were in the thick of many events. At wars end, my father was called to be a witness at the Nuremberg kangaroo court trials.. He never did testify and he told us he wasn't even sure why he was there. He didn't believe any of the propaganda and incredible outright fabrications of the Russians and no one even heard much of this BS until the 60's. He did say the Germans, and the Waffen SS in particular, were the finest soldiers of all. This was the general consensus of most every combat soldier. They would even sarcastically complain that the captured American officers in the camps had it 'cushier' than they did in the field.   
The chief justice of the US supreme court called Nuremberg a  'kangaroo court.' Which it was. Most people don't realize the Waffen SS weren't really even Germans but a majority of volunteers from every country in Europe who were fighting for their countries against their mortal enemies, the Jewish Bolsheviks,' as they were known then. Well, as it so happened, they were right. Look at what transpired after the traitor Roosevelt handed Stalin half of Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t believe the so-called holocaust was anything at all as depicted. As you know, none of this was even mentioned in Churchill and Ike&#8217;s memoirs. Not one mention in thousands of pages.<br />
My father was with Patton, the 25th cavalry. Fairly famous bunch who were in the thick of many events. At wars end, my father was called to be a witness at the Nuremberg kangaroo court trials.. He never did testify and he told us he wasn&#8217;t even sure why he was there. He didn&#8217;t believe any of the propaganda and incredible outright fabrications of the Russians and no one even heard much of this BS until the 60&#8217;s. He did say the Germans, and the Waffen SS in particular, were the finest soldiers of all. This was the general consensus of most every combat soldier. They would even sarcastically complain that the captured American officers in the camps had it &#8216;cushier&#8217; than they did in the field.<br />
The chief justice of the US supreme court called Nuremberg a  &#8216;kangaroo court.&#8217; Which it was. Most people don&#8217;t realize the Waffen SS weren&#8217;t really even Germans but a majority of volunteers from every country in Europe who were fighting for their countries against their mortal enemies, the Jewish Bolsheviks,&#8217; as they were known then. Well, as it so happened, they were right. Look at what transpired after the traitor Roosevelt handed Stalin half of Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R. Munro</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.R. Munro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP, didn't you know that when Britain or the United States performs acts like that it is merely "protecting freedom?"

I mean, if we hadn't killed 25% of the civilian population of Germany, how could we have hoped to ever "make the world safe for democracy?"

Okay, sarcasm aside, those that are on the so-called 'winners' side can do whatever they want, so long as they are portrayed are harbingers of justice and freedom.  This is NOT meant to detract even a little from the destruction that National Socialsm wrought, but if it wasn't for the Holocaust, every side had as much blood on their hands as Hitler's Germany.

I hate when people say there were only two sides to World War II: good and evil.

There was really only an unprecedented one side to the war.  That is, see who can kill the most innocent people with air strikes, napalm, chemicals, and bombs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP, didn&#8217;t you know that when Britain or the United States performs acts like that it is merely &#8220;protecting freedom?&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, if we hadn&#8217;t killed 25% of the civilian population of Germany, how could we have hoped to ever &#8220;make the world safe for democracy?&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, sarcasm aside, those that are on the so-called &#8216;winners&#8217; side can do whatever they want, so long as they are portrayed are harbingers of justice and freedom.  This is NOT meant to detract even a little from the destruction that National Socialsm wrought, but if it wasn&#8217;t for the Holocaust, every side had as much blood on their hands as Hitler&#8217;s Germany.</p>
<p>I hate when people say there were only two sides to World War II: good and evil.</p>
<p>There was really only an unprecedented one side to the war.  That is, see who can kill the most innocent people with air strikes, napalm, chemicals, and bombs.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I mean the British, with their incredibly sadistic fire bombings of not just Dresden but also other cities.
Of course the Americans were guilty as well.
How many know the fire bombings of Tokyo killed more people than the atom bombs?
Led by General Curtis LeMay, later the candidate for Vp with George Wallace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I mean the British, with their incredibly sadistic fire bombings of not just Dresden but also other cities.<br />
Of course the Americans were guilty as well.<br />
How many know the fire bombings of Tokyo killed more people than the atom bombs?<br />
Led by General Curtis LeMay, later the candidate for Vp with George Wallace.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They already did... in Germany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They already did&#8230; in Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"This week Barak revealed that his officials were working on the last idea, finding a way to make it lawful for the army to direct artillery fire and air strikes at civilian neighbourhoods ..... making it official policy, sanctioned by the international community."

Legalise genocide, why not..? Kim Howells (the insane psychomaniac, may he burn in hell) and the British whoring government would totally back it for one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This week Barak revealed that his officials were working on the last idea, finding a way to make it lawful for the army to direct artillery fire and air strikes at civilian neighbourhoods &#8230;.. making it official policy, sanctioned by the international community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Legalise genocide, why not..? Kim Howells (the insane psychomaniac, may he burn in hell) and the British whoring government would totally back it for one</p>
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