Of cours these days man=person and he=they.

But I have not read your piece of today on Tarpley.

And I have long thought 9/11 conspiracy theorists, however seriously motivated, were the functional equivalent of crazy — in that ever since JFK it’s been obvious that with each layer of info you purportedly peel back, the sources become less believable. In regard to egoism and imperviousness to the subjects under discussion, you are a child, my dear? Did you never participate in the brutal New York Times online-chats-political-forums of just five or so years ago? What I’m saying is what passes for incivility and ranting at DV would have been mild stuff indeed at the NYT then. Of course, DV is not a chat, only the most open quick-post-radical (I call it radical) online political journal that I know of. And I did participate in those brutal NYT forums, and my opinion is that there’s been a definite waning of verbal-assassinations — at least from the far right.

However, all in all, I want most to thank you, probably from the bottom of most of us relatively sane posters’ hearts, for taking the time to reply to the crowd, as it were. I assume you are paid for writing, when I say: many are the writers who profess to reply to the unpaid masses, few are the writers who practice what they profess.

Lest people not be able to find it and then blame me for being part of the conspiracy of silence.

oh, the nice phrase was “SLEEPWALKING towards catastrophe” thanks eric, not sure on re-reading I should tar your comments with the same brush of outrage as the truly egregious maha, but know at least that I’m definitely not representative of America’s college students, having been out of school for 20 years doing things like trying to counter US intervention in El Salvador and work with some hopelessly naive illusionists in the environmental justice movement before I decided to go back and get an MA degree. So don’t blame the rest of the college students for my “sheepishness.”

and to the rest of you guys, thanks for allowing me to whistle in the dark to you for awhile, and for understanding what that means. Goodnight all.

You want to hear my conspiracy theory? conspiracy theorists are all government plants who sow discord, apathy and fear by making us believe that the system is completely and eternally out of our control, and all political action is futile, except for the production of their tracts and screeds. Way to go! And they cost so little–this must be a great comfort to Cheney and co. (Since nuance isn’t your strong suit, guys, I’ll clue you in that I’m kidding. Sort of. Less than I would have been before reading your truly thoughtless comments).

As I mentioned in my article, ya gotta love how the comments board phenomenon has helped replace argument with insult as the primary means of political discussion. And of course, deluged us with those who decry perceived snideness or condescension by whipping out their own little black book of insult and condescension. And those who believe they’ll break the perceived wall of silence around their truth by insulting anybody they believe–however careless and superficial their reading–disagrees with them—instead, in this particular case, of trying to listen more deeply what the rest of the commentators above and I all share with them, which is that nicely-put sense of watching a people slouching towards catastrophe.

Take heart, eric and maha, I’m sure you’ll have the satisfaction of being right in the end, though you may have a very limited audience left by then for your vindication speeches.

Clearly a stand-off among the Donks and Dumbos.

Pictures at ten.

God. I’ve been calling Bush The Chipmunk since 2002, and now my sister tells me McCain is looking more like a chipmunk every day.

Was it something I said?

*that put us

TGG is just a particularly galling example of pervasive thought-control since late RayGun, if you ask me.

BTB, if you’re referring specifically to the Chickens Coming Home to Roost, you do know who said that originally. Right? Or was that before your time?

If even someone like her hasn’t figured out the basics, that WTC 7 wasn’t hit by airplanes but was brought down in a clearly preplanned premeditated controlled demolition, along with the hundreds of other pieces of evidence pointing to an inside job, then that confirms Tarpley’s analysis even more. The very basis for democratic civil society is rotted at the foundations, that the college students really in general don’t understand the nature of the problems. And without that understanding, and the total immobilization of protest, it’s basically OVER.

But that has been apparent since the 2004 election was stolen–for the SECOND time, and Kerry caved in (probably preplanned as well) and the voters didn’t rise up as was the case in Mexico’s stolen election.

It looks ot me like the people are sleep walking towards catastrophe. Just like Einstein warned and predicted. “Everything has changed but our way of thinking and so we drift to catastrophe.”

Indeed as the previous poster pointed out , her own casual dismissal of Tarpley and

Btw your childish conspiracy theory reference is ignorant and pathetic, you throw out this term like a programmed robot. 9/11 was a meticulously planned operation that was the key event to usher in all this (pre planned) chaos. You’re right, empathy’s gone out the window, you certainly have none to spare except some flippant remarks — support the commanders? aren’t they the ones giving the illegal orders in Iraq and Afghanistan? But that’s not what concerns you is it, it’s the fact the troops suffer.
In 2003 prior to the invasion unions in the uk threatened strikes at the anti war rallies. Of course they didn’t do it because union leaders are only interested in furthering their own political careers and boosting their personal finances. But the idea of bringing the country to a halt to stop the planned slaughter was absolutely the right one.

You mention martial law, and that is a very big concern of mine, especially since I read that there are Military Commands run by mercenaries, not governments, but contracted by governments for pay.

I read that there is a Northern Command, and a Canadian Command (but Canada uses a different name I cannot recall right now) that have entered into an agreement about sending troops to each other’s countries in the event of civil unrest. This reminds me of Chinese troops sent from other provinces to deal with the Tianamen Square issue in the the 1980’s. They had no problem killing those students who were not related to them.

What are they planning? How can we possible control these forces who are international in their organizational structure, and who have developed parallel international police forces as well? Who do they report to? Blackwater works under contract with the State Dept, so I can only guess that these others do too.

You are right in saying that our military is weakened, but I am afraid these COMMAND structures are counting on that, and may even have an agenda to make that real. Yesterday on CSPAN I heard one journalist say that the war could not be continued without contractors, and we are paying $900 per day for those players who act without rule of law. We are buying lawless murderers to spend our money and kill people in our name.

I am deeply concerned about the fact that there is no investment in our infrastructure, and as much as Obama or anyone else speaks about “change”, how do we facilitate change when these criminals have successfully dismantled our political structures such that we have no access to our resources nor those who mismanage them? Look how Katrina is not being rebuilt. Does Halliburton want to rebuild after the proposed civil war they are planning, I wonder?

Why does Pelosi not allow “impeachment” which could at least begin to set things straight? It was recently mentioned that she is Aunt to Gavin Newsom, which I did not know. Does she guild the elephant to protect its hide to support Gavin’s future rise to presidency?

I am really disillusioned with government like never before and am at a loss as to how we can ever hold anyone accountable in their trenches, while we need them to dig us out?

I recently went to work for three months at City Hall as a full time permanent Principal Financial Accountant and completed a project for them at TIDA, but because part of that process was to stand up for accuracy in my numbers and to take the time and effort to prove them, the day after I delivered the project, and picked up the signed MOU for monetary compensation for my work, I was walked to the HR office and promptly given a non-disciplinary release.

Even though I was supposed to be in a union, no one helped me. I had no recourse and have not been able to credibly defend myself in their actions. My career as an accountant has been all but demolished in this town now. I cannot get a job in an industry that I have served as an independent since 1986. Why does no one respond to my requests for work? Because I insisted on accuracy in government accounting? In San Francisco? A so-called progressive town? I am still in shock. I guess there are too many things to hide and they cannot afford someone like me confronting them on living up to their civic duties to protect our assets instead of steal them? For the record, TIDA was clean and all of that much to do about nothing purely political.

Do you know that most of the accountants at City Hall are green card third world people who cannot, will not, and probably do not know how to stand up for the American rights and privileges that we fought for, people who are trained to defer to orders by whoever passes them down, no matter the consequence?

Should we be handing over our government resources to people that don’t stand up? I am not prejudiced against immigrants, but it really was puzzling to have a 5 year green card philipino show me a nude blue eyed blonde on her desktop, ( I am a blue eyed blonde) while refusing to support me in the accuracy of our project, then be allowed to keep her job and while I am moved out of a job. This, despite heavy rules regarding sexual crap in the workplace. I never reported her, but I think they found the picture because they made us all move our desks into another room to do cleanup. Did you ever think that slimy porno seeking ass licking could trump ethical reporting in the field of accounting? I admit, I never thought I would see the day.

This world sucks. I am all for building a power block across democratic lines and progressive lines that forgets the stupid shit that doesn’t count, and works hard together to focus on the important things that keep us all from being victims to this economy. How can we generate the political will of people collectively to stand up against those who are cruel heartless and pyschotic in their goals?

I want to be able to trust in our civil service. I want to know we can protect our rights and liberties and generate more jobs. I don’t want America to be uplifted by an Obama election, whose planned (I really hope this isn’t true) assassination then throws us into civil unrest colored by the media as a racial war so that Canadians, or Mexicans can come in and fight with those Americans who have a clue about the right to bear arms in a well regulated militia. Hello? Are there such people? I doubt that anyone is really organized or regulated at all to fight against a rogue government that has abdicated its authority to mercenaries.

Forgive my ramblings, but I hope I hit on a few unclarified but crucial points that may motivate others to share their concerns or attempt to allay mine.