Comments on: Necropolis Now: Review of As the World Burns: 50 Simple Things You Can Do To Stay in Denial http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:15:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15463 hp Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:32:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15463 The real irony is most people think they got a pretty good deal.. The real irony is most people think they got a pretty good deal..

]]> By: M Pyre http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15428 M Pyre Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:05:33 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15428 Mulga Mumblebrain: "I’ve thought for a while that the real driving personalities, the uber-elect of the ruling global parasite class know exactly what is happening, and wish it to occur. I believe they imagine they can hunker down in some redoubt and sit out the chaos and mass death." ************************* I have thought the same, only here's what I think explains their cavalier attitude. 1) They think that the forecast for ecological mayhem is just a "liberal" plot to steal power and money. 2) They think that if there's any truth to the forecast, it is overstated and will be limited solely to places where the planet currently is heavily "developed" with industry, infrastructure, dwellings, buildings, roads. Hence they buy land and build houses in remote locations in various countries around the world. 3) They believe that some form of post-collapse economy must be created, and who better to create it than they? One should notice that many have started moving their assets into vehicles that are not based on the American dollar. This is accidental? I don't think so. I think it's plain that they wish to destroy our current economy and simply are milking the last billions of taxpayer dollars that the taxpayers are willing to contribute. Thanks for your wage slavery, "consumers." Thanks for paying your taxes, we find that method so much easier than the old fees that we kings used to have to levy on our subjects. You know we had to hire collectors for that and it was messy business, blood and corpses and missing limbs all for a bit of tribute. This IRS thing, it's way easier. So thank you, taxpayers. Mulga Mumblebrain:

“I’ve thought for a while that the real driving personalities, the uber-elect of the ruling global parasite class know exactly what is happening, and wish it to occur. I believe they imagine they can hunker down in some redoubt and sit out the chaos and mass death.”

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I have thought the same, only here’s what I think explains their cavalier attitude.

1) They think that the forecast for ecological mayhem is just a “liberal” plot to steal power and money.

2) They think that if there’s any truth to the forecast, it is overstated and will be limited solely to places where the planet currently is heavily “developed” with industry, infrastructure, dwellings, buildings, roads. Hence they buy land and build houses in remote locations in various countries around the world.

3) They believe that some form of post-collapse economy must be created, and who better to create it than they? One should notice that many have started moving their assets into vehicles that are not based on the American dollar. This is accidental? I don’t think so.

I think it’s plain that they wish to destroy our current economy and simply are milking the last billions of taxpayer dollars that the taxpayers are willing to contribute. Thanks for your wage slavery, “consumers.” Thanks for paying your taxes, we find that method so much easier than the old fees that we kings used to have to levy on our subjects. You know we had to hire collectors for that and it was messy business, blood and corpses and missing limbs all for a bit of tribute. This IRS thing, it’s way easier. So thank you, taxpayers.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15402 hp Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:56:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15402 Mulga, one thing I, you and everyone else knows for 100% certain is we all got it coming. Whether by a nuclear blast, heart attack in the middle of an orgasm, run over by a dump truck or pushed out the window. Now is that fair, or what? Mulga, one thing I, you and everyone else knows for 100% certain is we all got it coming. Whether by a nuclear blast, heart attack in the middle of an orgasm, run over by a dump truck or pushed out the window. Now is that fair, or what?

]]> By: Barbara http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15371 Barbara Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:41:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15371 The commentators, thus far, remind me of an early 60s incident: When John Kennedy occupied the White House, intellectuals used to find themselves invited to dinner there, and one of these, Edmund Wilson, having accepted the invitation, found himself seated next to Kennedy, who enquired, "I have always been intrigued by the title Patriotic Gore; what's it about?" Edmund Wilson replied, "Read the book." The commentators, thus far, remind me of an early 60s incident: When John Kennedy occupied the White House, intellectuals used to find themselves invited to dinner there, and one of these, Edmund Wilson, having accepted the invitation, found himself seated next to Kennedy, who enquired, “I have always been intrigued by the title Patriotic Gore; what’s it about?”

Edmund Wilson replied, “Read the book.”

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15358 Mulga Mumblebrain Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:17:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15358 Enjoy the ride, hp. Like a Nantucket Slieghride, just hope old Moby doesn't sound too deep. The remnants will pick themselves up, and if we've learned anything, drown all entrepreneurs at birth. Realistically, as James Lovelock has postulated, perhaps a few bands of doughty survivors, tramping the far north (or perhaps newly verdant Antarctica?)will be all that remain. Not quite the Olduvai collapse, but perhaps the Hyperborean retreat. It'll be a long way back from there, I suspect. Enjoy the ride, hp. Like a Nantucket Slieghride, just hope old Moby doesn’t sound too deep. The remnants will pick themselves up, and if we’ve learned anything, drown all entrepreneurs at birth. Realistically, as James Lovelock has postulated, perhaps a few bands of doughty survivors, tramping the far north (or perhaps newly verdant Antarctica?)will be all that remain. Not quite the Olduvai collapse, but perhaps the Hyperborean retreat. It’ll be a long way back from there, I suspect.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15331 hp Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:07:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15331 And if we are beyond the tipping point? What then? And if we are beyond the tipping point? What then?

]]> By: Gary Corseri http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15328 Gary Corseri Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:18:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15328 Maybe the best way to reach masses of Americans about the earth-shattering, ecocidal activities of our Corpocracy is through a comic book--at least where the print medium is concerned. Lots of pictures/illustrations. Keep it simple. No doubt a clever and masterful work in the hands of Jensen and McMillan. Those who are not brain-dead know that we are at the tipping-point-- or beyond the tipping-point--for saving our planet, our home. That dexterity with tools that defined our species' development and trajectory now threatens our survival. What kind of collective or individual actions are most moral--and what is moral, given the nature of the cataclysm we are facing? These are the profound questions Jensen and McMillan have packaged in a simple, colorful format, to which Adam Engel has now averted our needful attention. Maybe the best way to reach masses of Americans about the earth-shattering, ecocidal activities of our Corpocracy is through a comic book–at least where the print medium is concerned. Lots of pictures/illustrations. Keep it simple.

No doubt a clever and masterful work in the hands of Jensen and McMillan.

Those who are not brain-dead know that we are at the tipping-point– or beyond the tipping-point–for saving our planet, our home. That dexterity with tools that defined our species’ development and trajectory now threatens our survival. What kind of collective or individual actions are most moral–and what is moral, given the nature of the cataclysm we are facing? These are the profound questions Jensen and McMillan have packaged in a simple, colorful format, to which Adam Engel has now averted our needful attention.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15324 hp Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:42:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15324 Lloyd, perhaps I understand what you do not. Lloyd, perhaps I understand what you do not.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15314 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:46:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15314 The 'War on Terror' makes sense in a multi-faceted number of senses. There's the drive to steal Arab oil. There's the impulse to establish Eretz Yisrael as regional hegemon and global partner of choice. And there's the desire to institute a ' strategy of tension', to keep the masses frightened and too concerned with dead boogey-men like bin-Laden to consider other, more pressing, problems. That our Masters are utterly unconcerned by the planet becoming uninhabitable for our species is now beyond question. One must ask why they are like that, as they have families and the younger ones will actually live through the unfolding of the initial stages of collapse. I've thought for a while that the real driving personalities, the uber-elect of the ruling global parasite class know exactly what is happening, and wish it to occur. I believe they imagine they can hunker down in some redoubt and sit out the chaos and mass death. Later they, and their descendants will enjoy a re-vitalised planet sans say 90% of the 'useless eaters'. I think this is a deranged plan, as it is wicked and won't work, but I cannot see any other explanation, unless they really are cosmic lizards in disguise. In the face of this reality it is obvious that the global parasite class have to be removed from power. As they kill at the drop of a hat, this cannot be achieved peacefully. Indeed I'm surprised that a global movement of violent resistance to ecological destruction has not yet emerged, although the earliest manifestations will certainly easily be liquidated. Waiting for the parasites to undergo a conversion to an ethos of human survival for the great bulk of the earth's population, would be like waiting patiently for the Second Coming. It ain't going to happen. Unless we all just go quietly into that eternal night of extinction, resistance must appear somewhere, sometime. Naturally a population indoctrinated over decades in fear and hatred of 'terror' will support the authorities as they ruthlessly suppress resistance. It's not as if environmentalists and unionists in the poor world are not already hunted down by death-squads when they rear their heads. Passive resistance is useless, as it will be crushed as ruthlessly as violent resistance. And then we face the problem of abjuring violence in the unlikely event it rescues us from our daemonic Masters. All in all I tremble at the prospects for the next fifty years, fearful we have entered an inescapable cul-de-sac. The ‘War on Terror’ makes sense in a multi-faceted number of senses. There’s the drive to steal Arab oil. There’s the impulse to establish Eretz Yisrael as regional hegemon and global partner of choice. And there’s the desire to institute a ‘ strategy of tension’, to keep the masses frightened and too concerned with dead boogey-men like bin-Laden to consider other, more pressing, problems.
That our Masters are utterly unconcerned by the planet becoming uninhabitable for our species is now beyond question. One must ask why they are like that, as they have families and the younger ones will actually live through the unfolding of the initial stages of collapse. I’ve thought for a while that the real driving personalities, the uber-elect of the ruling global parasite class know exactly what is happening, and wish it to occur. I believe they imagine they can hunker down in some redoubt and sit out the chaos and mass death. Later they, and their descendants will enjoy a re-vitalised planet sans say 90% of the ‘useless eaters’. I think this is a deranged plan, as it is wicked and won’t work, but I cannot see any other explanation, unless they really are cosmic lizards in disguise.
In the face of this reality it is obvious that the global parasite class have to be removed from power. As they kill at the drop of a hat, this cannot be achieved peacefully. Indeed I’m surprised that a global movement of violent resistance to ecological destruction has not yet emerged, although the earliest manifestations will certainly easily be liquidated. Waiting for the parasites to undergo a conversion to an ethos of human survival for the great bulk of the earth’s population, would be like waiting patiently for the Second Coming. It ain’t going to happen. Unless we all just go quietly into that eternal night of extinction, resistance must appear somewhere, sometime. Naturally a population indoctrinated over decades in fear and hatred of ‘terror’ will support the authorities as they ruthlessly suppress resistance. It’s not as if environmentalists and unionists in the poor world are not already hunted down by death-squads when they rear their heads. Passive resistance is useless, as it will be crushed as ruthlessly as violent resistance. And then we face the problem of abjuring violence in the unlikely event it rescues us from our daemonic Masters. All in all I tremble at the prospects for the next fifty years, fearful we have entered an inescapable cul-de-sac.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15302 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:51:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15302 I also penned an incomprehensible sentence. And to think of all the threads at DV I've STOPPED with simple, clear and (needless to say) astounding insights!! I also penned an incomprehensible sentence.

And to think of all the threads at DV I’ve STOPPED with simple, clear and (needless to say) astounding insights!!

]]> By: Arch Stanton http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15296 Arch Stanton Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:22:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15296 Then I looked again at all the acts of oppression which were being done under the sun. And behold I saw the tears of the oppressed and that they had no one to comfort them; and on the side of their oppressors was power, but they had no one to comfort them. So I congratulated the dead who are already dead more than the living who are still living. But better off than both of them is the one who has never existed, who has never seen the evil activity that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 4 Then I looked again at all the acts of oppression which were being done under the sun. And behold I saw the tears of the oppressed and that they had no one to comfort them; and on the side of their oppressors was power, but they had no one to comfort them. So I congratulated the dead who are already dead more than the living who are still living. But better off than both of them is the one who has never existed, who has never seen the evil activity that is done under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 4

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15275 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:31:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15275 Are you stikin to the article in question, hp? Or do you not understand what I understand? Are you stikin to the article in question, hp? Or do you not understand what I understand?

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15273 hp Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:25:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15273 "When you believe in things you don't understand, then you suffer." “When you believe in things you don’t understand, then you suffer.”

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15268 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:19:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15268 I omitted the "is" between "Each of us" and "the end point". GL Rowsey I omitted the “is” between “Each of us” and “the end point”.

GL Rowsey

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15267 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:15:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/necropolis-now-review-of-as-the-world-burns-50-simple-things-you-can-do-to-stay-in-denial/#comment-15267 Maybe DV needs a "graphic novel book reviews" section. My favorite Flannery O'Connor line is from You Can't Be Any Poorer Than Dead: "Nobody gonna bother you," the Negro muttered, pushing through the wall of honeysuckle without looking back, "That going to be your trouble." It's all luck, a giant probability distribution. Some of us are lucky enough to get the personal involvements they need to function well in groups, others of us are lucky in other ways. I'd say Jensen and McMillan are going to have to be damn lucky to have written a novel, graphic or not -- treating this subject, and which is more compelling and graphic with just words -- than The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich by Philip K Dick. Each of us the end point of a concatenation of incredibly unlikely events. Some call that a miracle. I just say-call it "good luck." But there are advantages to believing it's just luck: really believing that makes it very difficult to be an elitist. Maybe DV needs a “graphic novel book reviews” section. My favorite Flannery O’Connor line is from You Can’t Be Any Poorer Than Dead: “Nobody gonna bother you,” the Negro muttered, pushing through the wall of honeysuckle without looking back, “That going to be your trouble.”

It’s all luck, a giant probability distribution. Some of us are lucky enough to get the personal involvements they need to function well in groups, others of us are lucky in other ways. I’d say Jensen and McMillan are going to have to be damn lucky to have written a novel, graphic or not — treating this subject, and which is more compelling and graphic with just words — than The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich by Philip K Dick.

Each of us the end point of a concatenation of incredibly unlikely events. Some call that a miracle. I just say-call it “good luck.” But there are advantages to believing it’s just luck: really believing that makes it very difficult to be an elitist.

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