Comments on: From Lebanon with Hate http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:38:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Shir Sayed http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-16694 Shir Sayed Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:26:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-16694 I cannot believe the venom of this writer, Mr. Franklin Lamb, against a woman calling her dark maid!!!! a brave Arab American, who speaks her heart out after 3000 fellow Americans were killed by the same people who are terrorizing the Middle East and the whole world. Is Mr. Lamb unaware of what the whole world is suffering from? Does he see the high price budgets of all countries around the world to fight Islamic (yes Mr. Lamb) Islamic terrorism. If Mr. Lamb calls Brigitte doing this for power and money of the Zionist Lobby, then he must be also doing the same favor to the Muslim and Arab lobby. If he accuses her of being paid by the zionists, then we can also accuse him of being under the Arab lobby pay roll. Shame on you Lamb you are more hateful in this article than anything Brigitte has ever said. I am an Arab American and not like Brigitte, a Christian, but a Muslim and I stand in support of Brigitte. As to you Mr. Lamb, you will never get it until you can live under the horrors of the Islamic State. I cannot believe the venom of this writer, Mr. Franklin Lamb, against a woman calling her dark maid!!!! a brave Arab American, who speaks her heart out after 3000 fellow Americans were killed by the same people who are terrorizing the Middle East and the whole world. Is Mr. Lamb unaware of what the whole world is suffering from? Does he see the high price budgets of all countries around the world to fight Islamic (yes Mr. Lamb) Islamic terrorism. If Mr. Lamb calls Brigitte doing this for power and money of the Zionist Lobby, then he must be also doing the same favor to the Muslim and Arab lobby. If he accuses her of being paid by the zionists, then we can also accuse him of being under the Arab lobby pay roll. Shame on you Lamb you are more hateful in this article than anything Brigitte has ever said. I am an Arab American and not like Brigitte, a Christian, but a Muslim and I stand in support of Brigitte. As to you Mr. Lamb, you will never get it until you can live under the horrors of the Islamic State.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15283 hp Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:43:50 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15283 Maybe he just got it backwards, Jaime. I mean, actions speak louder than words.. Maybe he just got it backwards, Jaime.
I mean, actions speak louder than words..

]]> By: Hue Longer http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15183 Hue Longer Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:33:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15183 trollific! trollific!

]]> By: Made in America http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15172 Made in America Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:57:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15172 You're a moronic muslim delusional lunatic. Your terrorist radical world view will disappear with the rest of your terrorist slaves. You’re a moronic muslim delusional lunatic.

Your terrorist radical world view will disappear with the rest
of your terrorist slaves.

]]> By: Shabnam http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15149 Shabnam Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:17:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15149 Shame on those illiterate Zionists who do not know who killed so many people in the name of fighting against communism in the Middle East and elsewhere. They have already forgotten that majorities of the states in the middle east were under control and influence of the US and its puppets who were carrying orders including killing their own citizens to support the “prosperous west” which has been continued to the present. Over 30,000 Iraqi people were killed by the puppets installed and influenced by the colonial and imperials powers and their war criminals residing in US, Israel, Britain and France. Thousand of people were killed with the same excuses under directorship of grand war criminals such as Kissinger, McNamara, Clark, Holbrook, Albright, Sharon, and ………. It is interesting to see people can not belief their own brutality and act of terrorism when it is presented to them since the population of these states benefits from deaths of others and they prefer to stay in the state of denial not to face the challenges against their way of life which is based on robbery and act of terrorism against others. Why don’t you read another article about the same Zioneofascist, Brigitte Gabriel, which was posted last year on this site? The author wrote: “Ms. Gabriel has made a decadent living over the years, selling herself out to zioneocon “think-tanks,” and commands the highest of fees for her apparent ability to hold unassuming and gullible audiences captive with her well-scripted and well-rehearsed black propaganda and bald-faced lies about Arabs, Muslims and Middle Eastern history and politics.1 It should therefore come as no surprise that she is also a regular contributor on FOX and CNN as a “Middle East expert”. http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/brigitte-gabriel-on-terrorism-it-takes-one-to-know-one/ Shame on those illiterate Zionists who do not know who killed so many people in the name of fighting against communism in the Middle East and elsewhere. They have already forgotten that majorities of the states in the middle east were under control and influence of the US and its puppets who were carrying orders including killing their own citizens to support the “prosperous west” which has been continued to the present. Over 30,000 Iraqi people were killed by the puppets installed and influenced by the colonial and imperials powers and their war criminals residing in US, Israel, Britain and France. Thousand of people were killed with the same excuses under directorship of grand war criminals such as Kissinger, McNamara, Clark, Holbrook, Albright, Sharon, and ……….
It is interesting to see people can not belief their own brutality and act of terrorism when it is presented to them since the population of these states benefits from deaths of others and they prefer to stay in the state of denial not to face the challenges against their way of life which is based on robbery and act of terrorism against others.
Why don’t you read another article about the same Zioneofascist, Brigitte Gabriel, which was posted last year on this site? The author wrote:
“Ms. Gabriel has made a decadent living over the years, selling herself out to zioneocon “think-tanks,” and commands the highest of fees for her apparent ability to hold unassuming and gullible audiences captive with her well-scripted and well-rehearsed black propaganda and bald-faced lies about Arabs, Muslims and Middle Eastern history and politics.1 It should therefore come as no surprise that she is also a regular contributor on FOX and CNN as a “Middle East expert”.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/brigitte-gabriel-on-terrorism-it-takes-one-to-know-one/

]]> By: Pierre http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15134 Pierre Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:50:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15134 The primary objective for the war was to dismantle Hizbollah completely, and instill large demographic changes. Given that Israel failed to export the war to enemy territory and keep it out of Israeli territory, rockets were still falling in the hundereds during the last day of the "ceasefire" and that the war lasted for 33 days, much longer than any of Israel's previous "wars", than yes Israel did not achieve its goals. The primary objective for the war was to dismantle Hizbollah completely, and instill large demographic changes.
Given that Israel failed to export the war to enemy territory and keep it out of Israeli territory, rockets were still falling in the hundereds during the last day of the “ceasefire” and that the war lasted for 33 days, much longer than any of Israel’s previous “wars”, than yes Israel did not achieve its goals.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15131 hp Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:01:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15131 Standard issue for the IDF now is piss proof under wear, when further conflict with , or even the mention of the name Hezbollah, arises. Standard issue for the IDF now is piss proof under wear, when further conflict with , or even the mention of the name Hezbollah, arises.

]]> By: Ray Ralph http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15098 Ray Ralph Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:45:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15098 In 2006, the Israeli Air Force flew repeated bombing raids over Lebanon which caused the horrible carnage and mass murder of the innocent Lebanese civilians described in the article above. Despite the commission of these terrible and criminal acts, the IDF was not able to get sufficient ground forces five miles into southern Lebanon, however, so that they could seize control of the Litani River and divert its waters to Israel (this was one of the main motivations, perhaps the main one, behind Israel's criminal attack). The IDF's attempt to penetrate Lebanon with sufficient force to carry out their nefarious scheme. They were repelled (defeated!!) by Hezbollah! What Israel did win from its bad behavior was continuing status in the eyes of most of the world's people as a criminal and pariah nation. In 2006, the Israeli Air Force flew repeated bombing raids over Lebanon which caused the horrible carnage and mass murder of the innocent Lebanese civilians described in the article above. Despite the commission of these terrible and criminal acts, the IDF was not able to get sufficient ground forces five miles into southern Lebanon, however, so that they could seize control of the Litani River and divert its waters to Israel (this was one of the main motivations, perhaps the main one, behind Israel’s criminal attack). The IDF’s attempt to penetrate Lebanon with sufficient force to carry out their nefarious scheme. They were repelled (defeated!!) by Hezbollah! What Israel did win from its bad behavior was continuing status in the eyes of most of the world’s people as a criminal and pariah nation.

]]> By: jimmy ray http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15097 jimmy ray Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:07:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15097 i have read this article with disbelief at the amount of disinformation and factual ignorance of lebanese history both ancient and recent. in fact the material is so unreal that one has to wonder what motivates lamb to say what he says. being of lebanese origin allows me to be better informed about lebanon and all the local and regional players in this deadly game . it really has nothing to do with metaphysics at all. it is about totalitarian hegemony in the name of some diety, aparthied based on religion rather than skin color and most basically raping looting and pillging in the name of said diety figure. the hatred due to the intensive brainwashing is enormous and unparalleled in any other ideology. the violence is a way of life and yet the lamb lambastes the victim and victimizes the centuries ongoing perpetrator. what folly . the left had always played a dirty game in the middle east . millions of people were killed in egypt iraq and other countries back in the fifties and sixties under communists or socialist outfits before the new wave of allahy killings started in the nineties mostly but also in eighties in lebanon which was and still is a forerunner of things to come. shame on you lamb for this fact twisting peice of smear journalism. you do a great disservice to lebanon and frankly your hatred and prejudice show through and through i have read this article with disbelief at the amount of disinformation and factual ignorance of lebanese history both ancient and recent. in fact the material is so unreal that one has to wonder what motivates lamb to say what he says. being of lebanese origin allows me to be better informed about lebanon and all the local and regional players in this deadly game . it really has nothing to do with metaphysics at all. it is about totalitarian hegemony in the name of some diety, aparthied based on religion rather than skin color and most basically raping looting and pillging in the name of said diety figure. the hatred due to the intensive brainwashing is enormous and unparalleled in any other ideology. the violence is a way of life and yet the lamb lambastes the victim and victimizes the centuries ongoing perpetrator. what folly . the left had always played a dirty game in the middle east . millions of people were killed in egypt iraq and other countries back in the fifties and sixties under communists or socialist outfits before the new wave of allahy killings started in the nineties mostly but also in eighties in lebanon which was and still is a forerunner of things to come.
shame on you lamb for this fact twisting peice of smear journalism. you do a great disservice to lebanon and frankly your hatred and prejudice show through and through

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15080 Michael Kenny Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:24:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15080 Ms Gabriel is, or was, a Maronite and the Maronites are Catholics, Mr Lamb's rather odd formulation ("Greek Orthodox and Maronite Christians, and Greek Catholics") notwithstanding. Indeed, the Maronite Partiarch is a cardinal! Ms Gabriel's reference to “Allah, which is very different from the God we believe in" runs flatly counter to the teaching of the Catholic Church. "Allah" is nothing more than the Arabic word for "God", just as "Dieu" is the French word, and I was taught in Catholic school that all Abrahamic religions worship the same God. There is a small band of American Catholic dissidents who espouse the line adopted by Ms Gabriel, but they are totally out of sync with the Church, not just worldwide, but even within the US. "God is love" is a classic Catholic idea, and I don't know enough about Islam to comment on Islamic morality, but I never cease to be shocked by the essentially hate and vengence-driven morality of those who base themselves primarily or exclusively on the Old Testament. I don't see the logic of Catholics associating with such people! Ms Gabriel is, or was, a Maronite and the Maronites are Catholics, Mr Lamb’s rather odd formulation (”Greek Orthodox and Maronite Christians, and Greek Catholics”) notwithstanding. Indeed, the Maronite Partiarch is a cardinal!

Ms Gabriel’s reference to “Allah, which is very different from the God we believe in” runs flatly counter to the teaching of the Catholic Church. “Allah” is nothing more than the Arabic word for “God”, just as “Dieu” is the French word, and I was taught in Catholic school that all Abrahamic religions worship the same God. There is a small band of American Catholic dissidents who espouse the line adopted by Ms Gabriel, but they are totally out of sync with the Church, not just worldwide, but even within the US.

“God is love” is a classic Catholic idea, and I don’t know enough about Islam to comment on Islamic morality, but I never cease to be shocked by the essentially hate and vengence-driven morality of those who base themselves primarily or exclusively on the Old Testament. I don’t see the logic of Catholics associating with such people!

]]> By: Hue Longer http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15069 Hue Longer Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:37:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15069 wow jaime... you have a moral and intellectual inability to see how victory can look anything different than mass murder. It's like listening to a goulish US American hating the resolve of the Vietnamese to push the invaders out, comforting his ego by bragging about the attrition and destruction the people suffered. Is there anyone smarter than you in your household who can caution you on your idiocy which hurts your cause? You'd be a much better apologist were you to just keep it simple and lie. wow jaime…

you have a moral and intellectual inability to see how victory can look anything different than mass murder. It’s like listening to a goulish US American hating the resolve of the Vietnamese to push the invaders out, comforting his ego by bragging about the attrition and destruction the people suffered.

Is there anyone smarter than you in your household who can caution you on your idiocy which hurts your cause? You’d be a much better apologist were you to just keep it simple and lie.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15065 Mulga Mumblebrain Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:55:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15065 God, evil is instantly identifiable, is it not. The deranged, genocidal anti-Islamic hatemongering of this odious creature and the Judeofascist and Christian Zionist monsters who promote her, and everyone's favourite shirtlifter, little jaime ithh his trademark luxuriating in the murder and destruction of Moslem untermenschen. The analogies with Nazism are myriad, and let's face it, ideologies of extreme racial supremacism and the raising of mass murder to a quasi- religious obligation, are bound to be very alike in essence and execution. No doubt this deranged hatemonger will make a trip to these shores some time soon. The local Judeofascist establishment, with its media headquarters in Murdoch's national daily and hate-rag 'The Fundament' specialises in this type of extreme hatemongering, so clearly preparatory to some explosion of mass murder and extermination. It is of course true that the forces of Israeli and US neo-Nazism have already killed millions throughout the Middle East and Africa, yet the blood-lust seems only to be growing. The myriad exhortations in the Old Testament to exterminate 'God's' enemies down to the last woman and child seem to be in danger of being put into ghastly practice. Little jaime will really cream his jeans then. God, evil is instantly identifiable, is it not. The deranged, genocidal anti-Islamic hatemongering of this odious creature and the Judeofascist and Christian Zionist monsters who promote her, and everyone’s favourite shirtlifter, little jaime ithh his trademark luxuriating in the murder and destruction of Moslem untermenschen. The analogies with Nazism are myriad, and let’s face it, ideologies of extreme racial supremacism and the raising of mass murder to a quasi- religious obligation, are bound to be very alike in essence and execution.
No doubt this deranged hatemonger will make a trip to these shores some time soon. The local Judeofascist establishment, with its media headquarters in Murdoch’s national daily and hate-rag ‘The Fundament’ specialises in this type of extreme hatemongering, so clearly preparatory to some explosion of mass murder and extermination. It is of course true that the forces of Israeli and US neo-Nazism have already killed millions throughout the Middle East and Africa, yet the blood-lust seems only to be growing. The myriad exhortations in the Old Testament to exterminate ‘God’s’ enemies down to the last woman and child seem to be in danger of being put into ghastly practice. Little jaime will really cream his jeans then.

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15063 jaime Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:11:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15063 Well, well, well. Elsewhere here on the People's Voice for the struggle for peace and social justice, Komrade Ray was giving this writer a hard time about whether the IDF reached the Litani River during the 2006 Lebanon war. He also insisted that Hezbollah "won." If this above is winning...then it will be interesting to see what happens when they lose. * More than 500 villages destroyed or damaged * 30,000 private homes totally destroyed * 32,000 homes with major damage * 70,000 homes with minor damage * 137 bridges and overpasses bombed * 26 fuel stations and 3 main fuel-storage tanks destroyed * 950 large businesses and 2,800 smaller ones obliterated * 23 large factories—milk and candy producers among them— destroyed * 330 main and secondary water distribution networks bombed * 186 purification, chlorination, storage and pumping stations bombed * 150 electrical transformers bombed * 50 health-care facilities destroyed or severely damaged * 150 km of coastline contaminated with oil * 350 schools damaged or destroyed * 950,000 of her countrymen displaced * Almost 1,450 killed and 4,500 wounded Well, well, well. Elsewhere here on the People’s Voice for the struggle for peace and social justice, Komrade Ray was giving this writer a hard time about whether the IDF reached the Litani River during the 2006 Lebanon war.

He also insisted that Hezbollah “won.”

If this above is winning…then it will be interesting to see what happens when they lose.

* More than 500 villages destroyed or damaged

* 30,000 private homes totally destroyed

* 32,000 homes with major damage

* 70,000 homes with minor damage

* 137 bridges and overpasses bombed

* 26 fuel stations and 3 main fuel-storage tanks destroyed

* 950 large businesses and 2,800 smaller ones obliterated

* 23 large factories—milk and candy producers among them— destroyed

* 330 main and secondary water distribution networks bombed

* 186 purification, chlorination, storage and pumping stations bombed

* 150 electrical transformers bombed

* 50 health-care facilities destroyed or severely damaged

* 150 km of coastline contaminated with oil

* 350 schools damaged or destroyed

* 950,000 of her countrymen displaced

* Almost 1,450 killed and 4,500 wounded

]]> By: Jim R. http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15062 Jim R. Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:59:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/02/from-lebanon-with-hate/#comment-15062 Why does the Talmud profess that the Jews are the only people to have souls and are of God, yet the back handed statement of Brigitte Gabriel to Christians. I've grown up around Jews that both consider we Christians filth or equals. Her discourse is of the former and she probably knew she was lying. That kind of statement is one that all 3 contemporary faiths reject. Thank you for showing her statement for what it is, trash talk from someone that considers all other faiths, people without a soul. Why does the Talmud profess that the Jews are the only people to have souls and are of God, yet the back handed statement of Brigitte Gabriel to Christians. I’ve grown up around Jews that both consider we Christians filth or equals. Her discourse is of the former and she probably knew she was lying. That kind of statement is one that all 3 contemporary faiths reject.

Thank you for showing her statement for what it is, trash talk from someone that considers all other faiths, people without a soul.

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