That’s because it goes against the 10th amendment, you do believe in the Constitution don’t you?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/dec2000/elec-d01.shtml

Without restricting ourselves to Ron Paul alone we may ask, how many of the other candidates and parties have openly acknowledged the issue of voter fraud? If no awareness of this as an issue is demonstrated anywhere, then the rest is sort of moot. Ron Paul has basically acted in the manner of a loyal Republican. Similar comments could be applied to most of the other candidates with respect to their own parties. But is this the sort of candidate who is likely to raise questions of vote fraud should that appear relevant? If not, then the rest of the discussion is a waste of time.

Totally agree.

Yeow! ya got me. Dead to rights.

How can I wiggle out of this? Hmm… well, lets try this here:

“I may be senile but I’m not boooringggg”;)
(ROTFLH)

Well Allan, maybe you’ll do to take along after all. Just be careful not to get in the way?

Sinceristically,

Dan Elliott
Head Honchorooney,
WMD
(Wierdios of Mystical Disconstruction)
Sacramento Weir, CA*

*Organism listed for ID purposes only

On the other hand, the question about the GreenParty is which anti-war and anti-Patriot Act candidate are they going to nominate? The Greens are already on the ballot in 21 states. Help them get on the ballot in every state and build an alternative to the duopoly.

A “right” to “free public education” requires a gun (or threat thereof with a sheriff’s sale) in the face of land owners to extract real estate taxes.

And with that, Elizabeth is in the camp of the original Nazi party:

“In order to make possible to every capable and industrious (citizen) the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education… We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents…”

- excerpt of planks of the Nationalist Socialist (NAZI) Party of Germany, adopted in Munich on February 24, 1920

Well, well….seig heil Elizabeth. Give David Duke a kiss, you agree with him more than ya think.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7217369

“arse-dribble”?

How come there is no mention of the English role in the war in Iraq? Not just the British army, not just Blair. But the intellectual backing for neo-conservatism from people like Hitchens and Niall Ferguson.

And now we people like yourself, and Alexander Cockburn backing Ron Paul?

Go back to your pints and your stag weekends. Leave us alone.

Good to know people have their priorities right. What’s a million Iraqi lives (and 5 million displaced) worth faced with such apocalyptic threats?

And then they accuse Ron Paul of racism! For the airheads who I see congratulating this type of arse-dribble, all I can say is why not trade countries with the Iraqis? That way not only will you be free of restrictive laws to worry about, you’ll also have the freedom to be blown to smithereens by the same bombs you are so eager not to keep from dropping on Iraqi heads.

I wonder why none of the ‘progressive’ candidates — all save one bought and paid for by the Israel Lobby — has the principle or conviction of a Ron Paul?
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20080108_ron_paul_blasts_fox_news_on_leno/

The “extreme right” did not take the U.S. to war at the cost of untold numbers of Iraqi lives and consumed resources that could have been used to fix the levies thus saving lives. In fact, the “extreme right” has been calling for a reduction to the military budget since the end of the Cold War which ironically would save energy, reduce the consumption of oil, protect the environment, and improve economic growth.

The shrill duplicity leveled upon Paul by the “left” obscures analysis and is a quite familiar tactic. The ISO spewed the same shrillness when Lenora Fulani endorsed Ralph Nader in 2004. In their article, Nader’s Wrong Turndescribe Ms. Fulani as having “cult” associations. Such labels offer no analysis regarding WHY Ms. Fulani has popularity in the African American community. The ISO offered no explanation of Ms. Fulani’s primary issue — African Americans must break from the Democratic Party. Her popularity rose in 1988 because she made her campaign a referendum against the Zionist/racist/Democratic New York City Mayor Ed Koch. Rather than educate the readers to this very important aspect, the ISO, hopes to dissuade readers using disparagement rather than analysis. This is yet another example the ISO doing a disservice and harming their own cause because such shrillness effectively obscured the Zionist/racist/neoliberal policies of Ed Koch that harmed people of color and that Ms. Fulani rise was a reaction to those harmful policies and due to a vacuum on the left. Blacks see the shrillness, especially by whites, as an attack on someone in their community trying to help them rather than a cogent and persuasive analysis.

This same dynamic holds true for Ron Paul. Paul’s libertarianism needs clear and rational analysis. His policies are attractively “progressive” and clear to folks who want this war to end. In fact, I would argue that the folks who support Paul to see an end to the war on Iraq are MORE principled than the “left” who sold out their principles to demobilize the anti-war movement and support the John Kerry/ABB/safe-state strategy in order to protect and obscure Zionism. And, while the ISO condemn this strategy, they never once provided an analysis regarding the culture of Zionism that grips the U.S. political economy and demobilized the anti-war movement.

Before the ISO condemns folks who want this war to end through the support of Ron Paul, it needs to start with the condemnation and exposure of the neo-Zionist on the left who have obscured and excused Zionism’s power in the U.S. When people see that then they will be able to trust the left because then they will see an adherence to principles.

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/3217/81/

…
- abortion and supports the continued ban on same-sex marriage.
- He was one of the original co-sponsors of the “Marriage Protection Act”.
- He’s also a religious extremist who thinks that creationism should be taught in the schools.
…
Both Congressman Paul and his aides REGULARLY MEET with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.
…

That being said, I do agree with identifying the contradictions inherent in the Libertarian ideology. However I feel that there is also a harshness and shrillness in the tone and attack on Ron Paul by Ms. Schulte that you won’t find coming from her with the same ire targeting racism on the left in particular, for example, that of a Noam Chomsky who is an avowed Zionist.

Also Ms. Schulte, like Ron Jacobs in his recent article, acknowledges the interest in Ron Paul is due to the vacuum caused by the failures and weakness of the left. But like Jacobs, Ms. Schulte does not provide the analysis and explanations FOR the weakness and demobilization of the left. While I agree that “we” need to strength the left how can that happen when the ISO has consistently provided dubious analysis about the current political conditions. They too have promoted the “war for oil” mantra to obfuscate the influence of Zionism on the war on Iraq and the demobilization of the anti-war movement. Their inconsistencies breeds distrust and weakens solidarity.

I do not fear Ron Paul because I know where he stands on the issues. People trust him because he adheres to his principles. Unfortunately I cannot say the same about the “left”.

Concerning RP’s so-called “racism”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvzsiESqVss

You are foolish.

It is about what level of government the services are applied to.

Your use of labels clouds your view.

You have grown up in the land your forefathers gave you and you live fat and happy in your ignorance of what America was intended to be.

Alas, there are many with your affliction.

I pity you and your kind.

Libertarianism is half sophomore philosophy and half psychosis.

Just as there has never been such a thing as a self-sufficient human being, so is it that, in a large, complex society, there is no such thing as “private property” or “rights” (not to mention roadways, fire departments, armies, etc.) without mechanisms of collective enforcement. Accepting that hard unchangeable fact is simply necessary for obtaining political and intellectual adulthood.

Alas, Paul and his crypto-fascist followers are still playing with children’s toys, albeit very dangerous ones…

And, of course, they aren’t even consistent. Not even close. Isn’t unstructured “mob rule” exactly the point of libertarianism?

“Setting aside the sneering tone, does Goff understand what he’s saying? That issues like abortion and immigrant rights must be judged as “less important”?”

Apparently they are “less important” to the Democratic Party establishment. After all, Democrat senators elected Sen. Harry Reid Majority leader by unanimous vote. And, Reid’s position on both issues are to the right of Ron Paul’s.

So, if the “litmus test(s)” doesn’t even apply to the Ds, themselves, bludgeoning anti-war Paul suporters with it is just a tad disingenuous.

Other posters demonstrated my point that those who claim to want “local control” of education only support that position as long as they believe it will impose their own bigoted, freed0m-crushing, materialistic version of a particular religion on the children in their community. Again, no sense of irony in advocating a slavish devotion to an ideology that creates another hierarchy of control, asks for money, and denies liberty to any but the obedient.

And while I agree that obviously libertarianism spans the political spectrum, the variety that most people in the Libertarian, Constitutionalist or Republican parties favor is the one that gives a few extra crumbs to obedient true believers who defend the “right” of the priveleged, connected, corrupt few to retain their vast fortunes and their control over the rest of society, the one that claims to hate government when it aids the poor or the sick but loves it when it commits violence against the rest of the world on behalf of big business.

The attitude toward the web showed a profound disrespect for civil norms and, frankly, democracy. Crashing web sites they did not own; flaming; disrupting online polls with multiple hits.

Very rude people.