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		<title>By: dan e</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13600</link>
		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louisa,

Couldn't agree  more. Here's a cpl telltale passages from Halper's piece: 
"...transform its occupation into a permanent regime of apartheid..."

What? what? Hasn't a permanent Zionist-Apartheid regime been in place since 1948? &#38; right now the only question remaining is whether they'll succeed in completely annexing/pacifying the areas not conquered until 1967?

 "...win entree into the heart of the American military/hi tech complex...": what? what? The World Zionist Movement has had "entree" into said holy of holies at the very least since Ed Teller took over the US nuke establishment. "Entree", hell: they've had free run of  the whole operation ever since. 

Halper &#38; his fellow "humanitarian relievers" play a  very interesting role in diverting criticism of the entire racist/colonialist Zionist Enterprise and its US component spearheaded by AIPAC &#38; the Thought Police*, to the much narrower &#38; less controversial "Occupation". Which allows various "progressives" to pose as On the Side of the Angels while basking in the approval of  The Jewish Community (sic) and the Democratic Party. 

I mean, it's hard to come down hard on somebody who is issuing a plea for the world to respect the Palestinian Right Of Return... Oh, you say Halper didn't say that? He didn't?

Then what was he talking about?

Thanks again,
dan

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louisa,</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree  more. Here&#8217;s a cpl telltale passages from Halper&#8217;s piece:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;transform its occupation into a permanent regime of apartheid&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>What? what? Hasn&#8217;t a permanent Zionist-Apartheid regime been in place since 1948? &amp; right now the only question remaining is whether they&#8217;ll succeed in completely annexing/pacifying the areas not conquered until 1967?</p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;win entree into the heart of the American military/hi tech complex&#8230;&#8221;: what? what? The World Zionist Movement has had &#8220;entree&#8221; into said holy of holies at the very least since Ed Teller took over the US nuke establishment. &#8220;Entree&#8221;, hell: they&#8217;ve had free run of  the whole operation ever since. </p>
<p>Halper &amp; his fellow &#8220;humanitarian relievers&#8221; play a  very interesting role in diverting criticism of the entire racist/colonialist Zionist Enterprise and its US component spearheaded by AIPAC &amp; the Thought Police*, to the much narrower &amp; less controversial &#8220;Occupation&#8221;. Which allows various &#8220;progressives&#8221; to pose as On the Side of the Angels while basking in the approval of  The Jewish Community (sic) and the Democratic Party. </p>
<p>I mean, it&#8217;s hard to come down hard on somebody who is issuing a plea for the world to respect the Palestinian Right Of Return&#8230; Oh, you say Halper didn&#8217;t say that? He didn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Then what was he talking about?</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
dan</p>
<p> *(If you like that, I&#8217;ll send you a jpg of the album cover;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ekosmo-couldn't agree more, old thing. By the way Ekosmo means what? It looks a bit like it might be evolving into Eukosmos, that mythical Universe where all the bastards are gibbeted and the children don't die from diarrhoea any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ekosmo-couldn&#8217;t agree more, old thing. By the way Ekosmo means what? It looks a bit like it might be evolving into Eukosmos, that mythical Universe where all the bastards are gibbeted and the children don&#8217;t die from diarrhoea any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13567</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mulga M -- 2 above -- final sentence:

A: 
-- when 'Murikans hang their President for knowingly supplying gangsters -- Mubarek, Olmert, Saud, Musharref, et al, et al -- with unlimited guns 'n ammo

and B: 
-- when the entire post-WW2 casino-whorehouse superstructure he, his predecessors, and their associated regional kaporegimes have so painstakingly erected, goes into melt-down beneath the whole damn lotta them...

as its about to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulga M &#8212; 2 above &#8212; final sentence:</p>
<p>A:<br />
&#8211; when &#8216;Murikans hang their President for knowingly supplying gangsters &#8212; Mubarek, Olmert, Saud, Musharref, et al, et al &#8212; with unlimited guns &#8216;n ammo</p>
<p>and B:<br />
&#8211; when the entire post-WW2 casino-whorehouse superstructure he, his predecessors, and their associated regional kaporegimes have so painstakingly erected, goes into melt-down beneath the whole damn lotta them&#8230;</p>
<p>as its about to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Harvey</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13566</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful!

It is so heartening to see Israel thwarted in it's utterly vile and immoral intentions. It has NO moral credibility, any longer.

Now, if we can shake off it's control of our (American)  political dialog, perhaps we can see that it's NOT in this our interests to continue to have foreign policy dictated by Tel Aviv.

I use to support Israel, but I become so disgusted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful!</p>
<p>It is so heartening to see Israel thwarted in it&#8217;s utterly vile and immoral intentions. It has NO moral credibility, any longer.</p>
<p>Now, if we can shake off it&#8217;s control of our (American)  political dialog, perhaps we can see that it&#8217;s NOT in this our interests to continue to have foreign policy dictated by Tel Aviv.</p>
<p>I use to support Israel, but I become so disgusted!</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13565</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, am I glad I'm not Egyptian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, am I glad I&#8217;m not Egyptian!</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just when the Palestinians, led by their legitimate Government, that of Hamas, win a smashing victory against the racist murderers who have been tormenting them, with escalating viciousness, for decades, that evil bastard and dictator Mubarrak steps in. It's only a question really whether the orders came direct from the real rulers of the world in Tel Aviv, or through their puppet hyperpower in Washington, but, to the eternal shame of Egypt and its people, they have joined the Judeofascists in their ongoing imprisonment and terrorising of the Palestinians. It must be unbearable ignominy for every half decent Egyptian to be ruled by such a despicable Quisling, following his Masters' orders, no matter how vicious, how debasing, like a pariah dog. When will they finally throw off the yoke of this vile collaborator, and hang him, upside down, like Mussolini, in some public square?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when the Palestinians, led by their legitimate Government, that of Hamas, win a smashing victory against the racist murderers who have been tormenting them, with escalating viciousness, for decades, that evil bastard and dictator Mubarrak steps in. It&#8217;s only a question really whether the orders came direct from the real rulers of the world in Tel Aviv, or through their puppet hyperpower in Washington, but, to the eternal shame of Egypt and its people, they have joined the Judeofascists in their ongoing imprisonment and terrorising of the Palestinians. It must be unbearable ignominy for every half decent Egyptian to be ruled by such a despicable Quisling, following his Masters&#8217; orders, no matter how vicious, how debasing, like a pariah dog. When will they finally throw off the yoke of this vile collaborator, and hang him, upside down, like Mussolini, in some public square?</p>
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		<title>By: Espresso</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13539</link>
		<dc:creator>Espresso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great for the Palestinians. Israel couldn't fathom a worse PR nightmare than unarmed men, women, and children busting out of their walled bantustans and fleeing to get food, water, fuel, and medical supplies from their ethnic prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great for the Palestinians. Israel couldn&#8217;t fathom a worse PR nightmare than unarmed men, women, and children busting out of their walled bantustans and fleeing to get food, water, fuel, and medical supplies from their ethnic prison.</p>
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		<title>By: louisa</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13532</link>
		<dc:creator>louisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Halper's last paragraph:  True he is not a Palestinian but an American who exercised his "right of return" and became an Israeli citizen and by doing so has contributed in some part to the continuing oppression of the Palestinians.  He doesn't identify this although it is the source of his admitted privilege.

Halper continues to undermine his  "power to the people" enthusiasm by saying that folks "may" express their responsibility towards the Gazans " in whatever way most suits us".  Dear Mr. Halper, it is not what suits "us" (or in this case you), but what suits the Palestinians.  
Halper has made clear on a number of occasions that what "suits" him is the two state solution that retains Israel's pre-1947 land grab and racist "democracy" (and ergo his privilege)  intact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Halper&#8217;s last paragraph:  True he is not a Palestinian but an American who exercised his &#8220;right of return&#8221; and became an Israeli citizen and by doing so has contributed in some part to the continuing oppression of the Palestinians.  He doesn&#8217;t identify this although it is the source of his admitted privilege.</p>
<p>Halper continues to undermine his  &#8220;power to the people&#8221; enthusiasm by saying that folks &#8220;may&#8221; express their responsibility towards the Gazans &#8221; in whatever way most suits us&#8221;.  Dear Mr. Halper, it is not what suits &#8220;us&#8221; (or in this case you), but what suits the Palestinians.<br />
Halper has made clear on a number of occasions that what &#8220;suits&#8221; him is the two state solution that retains Israel&#8217;s pre-1947 land grab and racist &#8220;democracy&#8221; (and ergo his privilege)  intact.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13524</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"the whole world’s watching..."&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately for the camp commandant, he cannot give the go-ahead for &lt;a href="http://www.newleftreview.org/A2330" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nacht und Nebel&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (German for "Night and Fog") measures because of the bright glare of network cameras:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The war of Jewish independence unleashed a massive operation of ethnic cleansing, on which Israel as a state has rested ever since. The expulsions were carried out in the typical conditions of &lt;i&gt;Nacht und Nebel&lt;/i&gt;--under cover of military darkness--in which nearly all such crimes were committed in the twentieth century. A distinctive series of euphemisms, deconstructed below by Gabriel Piterberg, was devised by the victors to mask the fate of Palestinians. The clearance was not just of a people. Land and property were seized with a speed and on a scale that no settlers had ever before achieved in colonial history. In early 1947, Jews owned 7 per cent of the land of Palestine. By the end of 1950, they had appropriated 92 per cent of land within the new state-booty including homes and buildings of every kind. A rump of 160,000 Arabs were left, as internal refugees within Israel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;the whole world’s watching&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately for the camp commandant, he cannot give the go-ahead for <a href="http://www.newleftreview.org/A2330" rel="nofollow"><i>Nacht und Nebel</i></a> (German for &#8220;Night and Fog&#8221;) measures because of the bright glare of network cameras:</p>
<blockquote><p>
The war of Jewish independence unleashed a massive operation of ethnic cleansing, on which Israel as a state has rested ever since. The expulsions were carried out in the typical conditions of <i>Nacht und Nebel</i>&#8211;under cover of military darkness&#8211;in which nearly all such crimes were committed in the twentieth century. A distinctive series of euphemisms, deconstructed below by Gabriel Piterberg, was devised by the victors to mask the fate of Palestinians. The clearance was not just of a people. Land and property were seized with a speed and on a scale that no settlers had ever before achieved in colonial history. In early 1947, Jews owned 7 per cent of the land of Palestine. By the end of 1950, they had appropriated 92 per cent of land within the new state-booty including homes and buildings of every kind. A rump of 160,000 Arabs were left, as internal refugees within Israel.
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		<title>By: Ekosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/power-to-the-palestinian-people/#comment-13519</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>imagine... 

Warsaw 1944: -- The walled-in, entrapped, encircled Jewish ghetto.

Jewish partisan fighters smuggle in explosives -- and, in the middle of the night, substantial areas of the ghetto wall is blown up

BOOOOM... !

Everyone who can walk rushes into the Polish sector 
-- to escape the torture and torment of slow death starvation, 
-- to embark on last-minute shopping sprees for life's basic essentials, 
-- or to buy more guns to defend themselves against "the Coming Storm" as apoplectic German Pastor's call for their "eradication" 

The Nazis go ape-shit...

They contact the BOSS in Washington... [sorry]... in Berlin [natch]

The BOSS "Mmmms" at them -- they "Mmmm" at the BOSS

A whole lotta "Mmmmm-in" goes on as the High Command considers the options...

In the end,  they decide to defer all immediate action till a later time and date of their own choosing... 
when the World's attention is elsewhere perhaps...?

Ahhhh.... 
just another episode in the life of  the "Light Unto the Nations..."

and "the whole world's watching..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imagine&#8230; </p>
<p>Warsaw 1944: &#8212; The walled-in, entrapped, encircled Jewish ghetto.</p>
<p>Jewish partisan fighters smuggle in explosives &#8212; and, in the middle of the night, substantial areas of the ghetto wall is blown up</p>
<p>BOOOOM&#8230; !</p>
<p>Everyone who can walk rushes into the Polish sector<br />
&#8211; to escape the torture and torment of slow death starvation,<br />
&#8211; to embark on last-minute shopping sprees for life&#8217;s basic essentials,<br />
&#8211; or to buy more guns to defend themselves against &#8220;the Coming Storm&#8221; as apoplectic German Pastor&#8217;s call for their &#8220;eradication&#8221; </p>
<p>The Nazis go ape-shit&#8230;</p>
<p>They contact the BOSS in Washington&#8230; [sorry]&#8230; in Berlin [natch]</p>
<p>The BOSS &#8220;Mmmms&#8221; at them &#8212; they &#8220;Mmmm&#8221; at the BOSS</p>
<p>A whole lotta &#8220;Mmmmm-in&#8221; goes on as the High Command considers the options&#8230;</p>
<p>In the end,  they decide to defer all immediate action till a later time and date of their own choosing&#8230;<br />
when the World&#8217;s attention is elsewhere perhaps&#8230;?</p>
<p>Ahhhh&#8230;.<br />
just another episode in the life of  the &#8220;Light Unto the Nations&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>and &#8220;the whole world&#8217;s watching&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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