Comments on: Obamarama http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:37:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12688 Deadbeat Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:19:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12688 I'm not a Ron Paul supporter but I would not trust anything coming from the rightwing Zionist New Republic rag. I’m not a Ron Paul supporter but I would not trust anything coming from the rightwing Zionist New Republic rag.

]]> By: JMS http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12646 JMS Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:40:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12646 The New Republic's latest article, "Angry White Man," should mark the end of the Ron Paul Revolution. It's not looking good for him. The New Republic’s latest article, “Angry White Man,” should mark the end of the Ron Paul Revolution. It’s not looking good for him.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12636 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:43:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12636 There must be a wonderful saying about truth About when power corrupts it so absolutely Only stories still serve But I can't Recall It And I mean with the greatest respect for Mr. Nader and a knowledge that the war's the thing (and so even a teensy hope for Mr. Paul): ANYBODY but Dem Republicans! There must be a wonderful saying about truth
About when power corrupts it so absolutely
Only stories still serve
But I can’t
Recall
It

And I mean with the greatest respect for Mr. Nader
and a knowledge that the war’s the thing
(and so even a teensy hope for Mr. Paul):
ANYBODY but Dem Republicans!

]]> By: JMS http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12632 JMS Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:19:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12632 If you haven't seen "An Unreasonable Man" yet, I suggest you rent it. If you have friends that are Nader skeptics, invite them to a screening. I bought the dvd last week from Powells and I'm planning on trying to convert as many friends and family as possible. mmm, poli-beer. If you haven’t seen “An Unreasonable Man” yet, I suggest you rent it. If you have friends that are Nader skeptics, invite them to a screening. I bought the dvd last week from Powells and I’m planning on trying to convert as many friends and family as possible.

mmm, poli-beer.

]]> By: Donald Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12631 Donald Hawkins Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:04:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12631 CNN and even Fox the Weather Channel, MSNBC all are saying rare tornadoes record warm temperatures. A dam could break because of flooding. The Northeast many parts flooding because of rain on the little snow they have and that is just today and tomorrow. California the fires and now all that snow that I have a feeling will melt a little to fast in just a few months. The Southeast drought and that is just in this country. Would you like me to keep going? Global warming is not something that is going to start happening in 10 years or twenty years it is happening now. In the coming years more and more of the same with probably a few surprises thrown in for good measure. Believe it or not there is still time to slow this down. You want to talk about change. In order to go after this problem a total change in the way we all view the World ourselves our country other countries. It sure looks like there is a Worldwide recession on the way and in some ways that will help in other ways no. It will slow a little the amount of CO 2 going into the atmosphere but still not what is needed. It could be a way to bring the economy back if done right but remember the smart money will want to do that anyway they can they just can't help themselves. Total focus by our policy makers and hopefully the policy makers of the other countries. One goal in mind to reduce the amount of fossil fuels we use by 100% and done in the shortest amount of time possible and the energy we replace it with has to be clean energy. No mater what happens that change part happens anyway. Do nothing change, go after the problem change for the better but still tuff times ahead and all because of the weather who would have thought. Much of what passes for sustainable development is little more than a scam to profit off disaster. "Green," he tells me, only half-joking, "is the color of mold and corruption.- the giant, inexpressibly subtle network of positive and negative feedbacks that keeps the Earth’s climate in balance -- is seriously out of whack, derailed by pollution and deforestation. Lovelock believes the planet itself will eventually recover its equilibrium, even if it takes millions of years. What's at stake, he says, is civilization. Lovelock looks at me with unflinching blue eyes. "Some people will sit in their seats and do nothing, frozen in panic. Others will move. They'll see what's about to happen, and they'll take action, and they'll survive. They're the carriers of the civilization ahead." James Lovelock Is Lovelock right or close on this little problem? If you would have asked people a few years ago they would have said no. Today, yes. Hell just watch the weather the next few day's. There is still time total focus a 180 degree turn hard times ahead it happens anyway. That's where the moral compass part comes in. Can this happen I don't know but I would like to think so. The saying, "A nice place to visit but you wouldn't want to live there". Well it is going to take on a whole new mwaning. Sea level rise of 5 to 20 feet already a done deal. CNN and even Fox the Weather Channel, MSNBC all are saying rare tornadoes record warm temperatures. A dam could break because of flooding. The Northeast many parts flooding because of rain on the little snow they have and that is just today and tomorrow. California the fires and now all that snow that I have a feeling will melt a little to fast in just a few months. The Southeast drought and that is just in this country. Would you like me to keep going? Global warming is not something that is going to start happening in 10 years or twenty years it is happening now. In the coming years more and more of the same with probably a few surprises thrown in for good measure. Believe it or not there is still time to slow this down. You want to talk about change. In order to go after this problem a total change in the way we all view the World ourselves our country other countries. It sure looks like there is a Worldwide recession on the way and in some ways that will help in other ways no. It will slow a little the amount of CO 2 going into the atmosphere but still not what is needed. It could be a way to bring the economy back if done right but remember the smart money will want to do that anyway they can they just can’t help themselves. Total focus by our policy makers and hopefully the policy makers of the other countries. One goal in mind to reduce the amount of fossil fuels we use by 100% and done in the shortest amount of time possible and the energy we replace it with has to be clean energy. No mater what happens that change part happens anyway. Do nothing change, go after the problem change for the better but still tuff times ahead and all because of the weather who would have thought.
Much of what passes for sustainable development is little more than a scam to profit off disaster. “Green,” he tells me, only half-joking, “is the color of mold and corruption.- the giant, inexpressibly subtle network of positive and negative feedbacks that keeps the Earth’s climate in balance — is seriously out of whack, derailed by pollution and deforestation. Lovelock believes the planet itself will eventually recover its equilibrium, even if it takes millions of years. What’s at stake, he says, is civilization. Lovelock looks at me with unflinching blue eyes. “Some people will sit in their seats and do nothing, frozen in panic. Others will move. They’ll see what’s about to happen, and they’ll take action, and they’ll survive. They’re the carriers of the civilization ahead.” James Lovelock
Is Lovelock right or close on this little problem? If you would have asked people a few years ago they would have said no. Today, yes. Hell just watch the weather the next few day’s. There is still time total focus a 180 degree turn hard times ahead it happens anyway. That’s where the moral compass part comes in. Can this happen I don’t know but I would like to think so. The saying, “A nice place to visit but you wouldn’t want to live there”. Well it is going to take on a whole new mwaning. Sea level rise of 5 to 20 feet already a done deal.

]]> By: greybeard http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12622 greybeard Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:44:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12622 The questions from the patrons are too good, so Ralph had to have made it up! BUT--even for fiction, it makes the point. John C. Bennett gives us this thought: Two things are at stake: the survival of a large part of humanity, and the humanity of those who survive because they live in privileged and protected countries. The questions from the patrons are too good, so Ralph had to have made it up! BUT–even for fiction, it makes the point. John C. Bennett gives us this thought:
Two things are at stake: the survival of a large part of humanity, and the humanity of those who survive because they live in privileged and protected countries.

]]> By: Gary Corseri http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12621 Gary Corseri Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:43:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12621 Thanks, Ralph, you've done it again! This may be the most "creative" of your works that I've seen. Now you've proven: not only can you analyze, you can satirize as well. Surely you could devise one of these for several of the of the phony-baloneys who are running now. This electoral system the corporations have evolved for us is one of the foulest caricatures of democracy anyone could have imagined. I suspect you've saved more lives with your work than any political/moral leader of the past 40 years. That knowledge must comfort you in these dark times. Thanks for the beacon. Thanks, Ralph, you’ve done it again!

This may be the most “creative” of your works that I’ve seen. Now you’ve proven: not only can you analyze, you can satirize as well.

Surely you could devise one of these for several of the of the phony-baloneys who are running now. This electoral system the corporations have evolved for us is one of the foulest caricatures of democracy anyone could have imagined.

I suspect you’ve saved more lives with your work than any political/moral leader of the past 40 years. That knowledge must comfort you in these dark times.

Thanks for the beacon.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12619 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:30:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12619 Thanks for that, DH. I'm still trying to recover from "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch" and I quit the book before reading the last three chapters. Is Phillip K. Dick on that spaceship? Thanks for that, DH. I’m still trying to recover from “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch” and I quit the book before reading the last three chapters.

Is Phillip K. Dick on that spaceship?

]]> By: Donald Hawkins http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12618 Donald Hawkins Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:15:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12618 Ralph that was good stuff. The year was 2525 and about a hundred people were on a very large ship traveling through the Universe. A few people were in the coffee house on the ship looking out the window. Yes they still had coffee in 2525. As they looked out they could see hydrogen clouds hundreds of light years wide. Black holes that were interesting from a distance. Solar systems that could support life. Quite a site to see. The conversation this night in the coffee house was how they had come so far to be able to see these wonders of the Universe. One person said it all started in the early twenty first century because of climate change. A total focus to find new energy sources was started they had to or civilization was lost. Not only did they find new energy sources but countries learned to work together and people learned to work together. It was hard at first but things got better from that time on and here we are now on this ship that can travel at the speed of light. Well as they drank there coffee time passed and then someone pointed out the window at a gray planet. Look at that planet it looks like ours except it’s gray not blue. One of the old men said yes that planet is exactly like ours to the year. For some reason we are not sure of at the start of there twenty first century climate change burning fossil fuels was ignored and the best we can tell by the year 2120 most life on that planet was gone. The planet kept changing and what you see now is gray and lifeless. All they had to do was use the knowledge they had at the time. Then someone asked what is the name of that planet. The old man said,”Earth”, and with that the ship turned to there home at light speed. Don Did anybody notice the weather in the middle part of the United States the last few days. Get use to it. No don’t get use to it we need to start using our minds fight back. Britney Spears how is she doing. Can Dr. Phill help her what does it all mean. What does O’Reilly think, I mean Oh really. We have to start using our minds Ralph that was good stuff.
The year was 2525 and about a hundred people were on a very large ship traveling through the Universe. A few people were in the coffee house on the ship looking out the window. Yes they still had coffee in 2525. As they looked out they could see hydrogen clouds hundreds of light years wide. Black holes that were interesting from a distance. Solar systems that could support life. Quite a site to see. The conversation this night in the coffee house was how they had come so far to be able to see these wonders of the Universe. One person said it all started in the early twenty first century because of climate change. A total focus to find new energy sources was started they had to or civilization was lost. Not only did they find new energy sources but countries learned to work together and people learned to work together. It was hard at first but things got better from that time on and here we are now on this ship that can travel at the speed of light. Well as they drank there coffee time passed and then someone pointed out the window at a gray planet. Look at that planet it looks like ours except it’s gray not blue. One of the old men said yes that planet is exactly like ours to the year. For some reason we are not sure of at the start of there twenty first century climate change burning fossil fuels was ignored and the best we can tell by the year 2120 most life on that planet was gone. The planet kept changing and what you see now is gray and lifeless. All they had to do was use the knowledge they had at the time. Then someone asked what is the name of that planet. The old man said,”Earth”, and with that the ship turned to there home at light speed.
Don

Did anybody notice the weather in the middle part of the United States the last few days. Get use to it. No don’t get use to it we need to start using our minds fight back. Britney Spears how is she doing. Can Dr. Phill help her what does it all mean. What does O’Reilly think, I mean Oh really. We have to start using our minds

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12608 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:34:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/obamarama/#comment-12608 I sure hope you made this up, Ralph Nader. If you did, it's a very nice piece of writing. If you did not, well you just as well might have. I sure hope you made this up, Ralph Nader. If you did, it’s a very nice piece of writing. If you did not, well you just as well might have.

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