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	<title>Comments on: Defining Israeli Zionist Racism: Part 11</title>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12828</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12827</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime, I am glad that you acknoweldge that Metgers stand on the Iraq war reflects the views of the Israeli majority and of Orthodox Jewry. I was aware that 70% of American Jews oppose the Iraq War. A majority of American Jews also oppose the views of AIPAC, the Israel Lobby and Zionist apologists such as you. But the fact that a majority of American Jews disagree with what you say has in no way silenced you (and I don't think it will, either). Maybe you are the Putz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime, I am glad that you acknoweldge that Metgers stand on the Iraq war reflects the views of the Israeli majority and of Orthodox Jewry. I was aware that 70% of American Jews oppose the Iraq War. A majority of American Jews also oppose the views of AIPAC, the Israel Lobby and Zionist apologists such as you. But the fact that a majority of American Jews disagree with what you say has in no way silenced you (and I don&#8217;t think it will, either). Maybe you are the Putz?</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12811</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, you're what we call a Putz.

The People's Voice article was based on another one at the Jerusalem Post.

The next paragraph of the same article quoted reads:

"Metzger's stand on the Iraqi war, while reflecting the Israeli majority and Orthodox Jewry, is not shared with most US Jews. The American Jewish Committee's annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion, published last year, found that 70 percent of US Jews disapprove of the Iraq war, with 28% backing it."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, you&#8217;re what we call a Putz.</p>
<p>The People&#8217;s Voice article was based on another one at the Jerusalem Post.</p>
<p>The next paragraph of the same article quoted reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;Metzger&#8217;s stand on the Iraqi war, while reflecting the Israeli majority and Orthodox Jewry, is not shared with most US Jews. The American Jewish Committee&#8217;s annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion, published last year, found that 70 percent of US Jews disapprove of the Iraq war, with 28% backing it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12797</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chief rabbi thanks Bush for "war against Iraq"

"During a short verbal exchange Wednesday at the Ben Gurion Airport Terminal, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger thanked President George W. Bush for the US's military intervention in Iraq. "I want to thank you for your support of Israel and in particular for waging a war against Iraq," Metzger told Bush, according to the chief rabbi's spokesman. Bush reportedly answered that the chief rabbi's words 'warmed his heart.'"  Read the complete story at www.thepeoplesvoice.org

The Iraq war, which the chief rabbi thanked Bush for waging, has cost the lives of over a million Iraqi civilians. So much for the chief rabbis concern with the sanctity of human life.

Who was it, Jaime, that you were claiming is out for "Blood"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chief rabbi thanks Bush for &#8220;war against Iraq&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;During a short verbal exchange Wednesday at the Ben Gurion Airport Terminal, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger thanked President George W. Bush for the US&#8217;s military intervention in Iraq. &#8220;I want to thank you for your support of Israel and in particular for waging a war against Iraq,&#8221; Metzger told Bush, according to the chief rabbi&#8217;s spokesman. Bush reportedly answered that the chief rabbi&#8217;s words &#8216;warmed his heart.&#8217;&#8221;  Read the complete story at <a href="http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org</a></p>
<p>The Iraq war, which the chief rabbi thanked Bush for waging, has cost the lives of over a million Iraqi civilians. So much for the chief rabbis concern with the sanctity of human life.</p>
<p>Who was it, Jaime, that you were claiming is out for &#8220;Blood&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: joe rose</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12790</link>
		<dc:creator>joe rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime, why do't you go to daniel pipies' website? You will read there the kind of bullshit that will make you feel at home. Meanwhile, I would advise you to refrain from ofending the readership of this website as you do, taking us for morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime, why do&#8217;t you go to daniel pipies&#8217; website? You will read there the kind of bullshit that will make you feel at home. Meanwhile, I would advise you to refrain from ofending the readership of this website as you do, taking us for morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12789</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to Petersen and Sabri for confronting Zionism and exposing it for the racist ideology that it is.  We need more exposure by the left to out this racist ideology and out ALL racists.  If Ron Paul can be critiqued for racism so should and so must Zionist of ALL stripes. Most especially those who supposedly represent the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Petersen and Sabri for confronting Zionism and exposing it for the racist ideology that it is.  We need more exposure by the left to out this racist ideology and out ALL racists.  If Ron Paul can be critiqued for racism so should and so must Zionist of ALL stripes. Most especially those who supposedly represent the left.</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12784</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis wrote:

"Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine."

Honey, you've wandered into the wrong lawn party.
At this point it's apparently only me and Neal who have been arguing for "peace and justice." Pretty well most of the others are out for...

...blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Honey, you&#8217;ve wandered into the wrong lawn party.<br />
At this point it&#8217;s apparently only me and Neal who have been arguing for &#8220;peace and justice.&#8221; Pretty well most of the others are out for&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;blood.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Brasky</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12782</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Brasky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Second, even if they left because their leaders told them to do so, as she claims, that still does not eliminate their inalienable right to the land they inherited through millennia of continuous existence as a people. "

Notice how, when Zionists make this spurious claim, no dates of the alleged radio broadcasts, no names of radio stations and no texts of the broadcasts are ever cited. The BBC monitored ALL radio broadcasts throughout the Middle East in 1948. It would be easy to get the specifics to back up their claim. The only recorded appeals to the Palestinians was to STAY PUT!

Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable  educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine. Their stock and trade consists of lies, half-truths, creating a diversion rather than answer the questions posed, and topping it all off with cries of "Jew hater!" and anti Arab racism. When debating them, stand your ground and hold their worthless asses to the fire. (I expect Jaime to respond to this by accusing me of preaching the pushing of  Zionists into crematoria!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Second, even if they left because their leaders told them to do so, as she claims, that still does not eliminate their inalienable right to the land they inherited through millennia of continuous existence as a people. &#8221;</p>
<p>Notice how, when Zionists make this spurious claim, no dates of the alleged radio broadcasts, no names of radio stations and no texts of the broadcasts are ever cited. The BBC monitored ALL radio broadcasts throughout the Middle East in 1948. It would be easy to get the specifics to back up their claim. The only recorded appeals to the Palestinians was to STAY PUT!</p>
<p>Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable  educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine. Their stock and trade consists of lies, half-truths, creating a diversion rather than answer the questions posed, and topping it all off with cries of &#8220;Jew hater!&#8221; and anti Arab racism. When debating them, stand your ground and hold their worthless asses to the fire. (I expect Jaime to respond to this by accusing me of preaching the pushing of  Zionists into crematoria!)</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12780</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry jaime, I meant to infer American born transplants to Israel..."friends" was inappropriate and confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry jaime, I meant to infer American born transplants to Israel&#8230;&#8221;friends&#8221; was inappropriate and confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the US stopped giving money to Israel, I'm sure jaime wouldn't have to worry about his American country asking him to remove by force his friends in his other country...they'd move to NY pretty damned fast (don't know about the rest though... maybe live side by side with people who just became equal?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the US stopped giving money to Israel, I&#8217;m sure jaime wouldn&#8217;t have to worry about his American country asking him to remove by force his friends in his other country&#8230;they&#8217;d move to NY pretty damned fast (don&#8217;t know about the rest though&#8230; maybe live side by side with people who just became equal?).</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime quotes Petersen and Sabri as follows:  ". . . a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vissitudes [sic] of power and streams of time" and draws the erroneous conslusion that Petersen and Sabri are calling for such a transfer. In reading, as in critical thought, "context" is everything (as Jaime's Israel Lobby fellow traveller, Neal,  keeps reminding us) and Jaime has taken a portion of a longer statement "out of context" and misread it. Here is what Petersen and Sabri actually say: "Yet, if what she [Kay] is proposing [the transfer of indigenous populations] is permissible, then a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and the streams of time. This is nonsense as it implies a never-ending cycle of transfers depending on which group  is most powerful at a given moment in time."  Read in context, Peterson and Sabri are not calling for the transfer of Jews, as Jaime states and apparently believes; they are  rejecting the whole notion of transfers as "nonsense." In reading comprehension "context" is fundamental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime quotes Petersen and Sabri as follows:  &#8220;. . . a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vissitudes [sic] of power and streams of time&#8221; and draws the erroneous conslusion that Petersen and Sabri are calling for such a transfer. In reading, as in critical thought, &#8220;context&#8221; is everything (as Jaime&#8217;s Israel Lobby fellow traveller, Neal,  keeps reminding us) and Jaime has taken a portion of a longer statement &#8220;out of context&#8221; and misread it. Here is what Petersen and Sabri actually say: &#8220;Yet, if what she [Kay] is proposing [the transfer of indigenous populations] is permissible, then a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and the streams of time. This is nonsense as it implies a never-ending cycle of transfers depending on which group  is most powerful at a given moment in time.&#8221;  Read in context, Peterson and Sabri are not calling for the transfer of Jews, as Jaime states and apparently believes; they are  rejecting the whole notion of transfers as &#8220;nonsense.&#8221; In reading comprehension &#8220;context&#8221; is fundamental.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12772</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing, as Gilad Atzmon among others, has noted is that militant racists like Jabotinsky were more honest than dissembling "humanists" who were past masters at speaking from both sides of their mouths for edification of Western audiences. This was was recognized and appreciated by contemporary &lt;a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060626/rose" rel="nofollow"&gt;Arabs&lt;/a&gt;:
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Jabotinsky was ostracized for speaking the truth. Because he recognized Arab national aspirations as legitimate, he had no interest in denying that the Zionist struggle would be violent. According to Jabotinsky, a group of Arabs approached him in 1926: "You are the only one among the Zionists who has no intention of fooling us," Egyptian intellectual Mahmoud Azmi is reported as having thanked him for not disguising the true nature of his aims.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The situation is analogous to the sad realization of Martin Luther King in the last years of his life that Mayor Daley's Chicago was "more hate-filled than Mississippi". MLK knew how to deal with white supremacists of the South, but years of grassroots organizing and demonstrations in Chicago only led to a vague and toothless "summit agreement" signed in 1966 between him and the perception mangling Mayor Daley. 

In &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/American-Pharaoh-Richard-Battle-Chicago/dp/0316834890" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;American Pharaoh&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, James Downs, Daley's top housing advisor recalled the fateful meeting that led to their agreement:
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I could just see the mayor decide at that moment how he was going to handle King, that he was going to lie to him. I could just see the moment in which he decided the only way he could get rid of the guy was to tell him a whole lot of lies.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Following is Gilad Atzmon's appreciative &lt;a href="http://www.itk.ntnu.no/ansatte/Andresen_Trond/kk-f/2004/0109.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;take&lt;/a&gt; on the coherence of Jabotinsky:
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My grandfather was a devoted Jabotinsky follower, and so was my mother as a juvenile (not anymore). I must admit that I, myself, enjoy reading Jabotinsky. Although I disagree with his racist orientation, I can still follow his logic, something that doesn't happen to me when I read the so-called "left" Zionists. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing, as Gilad Atzmon among others, has noted is that militant racists like Jabotinsky were more honest than dissembling &#8220;humanists&#8221; who were past masters at speaking from both sides of their mouths for edification of Western audiences. This was was recognized and appreciated by contemporary <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060626/rose" rel="nofollow">Arabs</a>:</p>
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Jabotinsky was ostracized for speaking the truth. Because he recognized Arab national aspirations as legitimate, he had no interest in denying that the Zionist struggle would be violent. According to Jabotinsky, a group of Arabs approached him in 1926: &#8220;You are the only one among the Zionists who has no intention of fooling us,&#8221; Egyptian intellectual Mahmoud Azmi is reported as having thanked him for not disguising the true nature of his aims.
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<p>The situation is analogous to the sad realization of Martin Luther King in the last years of his life that Mayor Daley&#8217;s Chicago was &#8220;more hate-filled than Mississippi&#8221;. MLK knew how to deal with white supremacists of the South, but years of grassroots organizing and demonstrations in Chicago only led to a vague and toothless &#8220;summit agreement&#8221; signed in 1966 between him and the perception mangling Mayor Daley. </p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.amazon.com/American-Pharaoh-Richard-Battle-Chicago/dp/0316834890" rel="nofollow"><i>American Pharaoh</i></a>, James Downs, Daley&#8217;s top housing advisor recalled the fateful meeting that led to their agreement:</p>
<blockquote><p>
I could just see the mayor decide at that moment how he was going to handle King, that he was going to lie to him. I could just see the moment in which he decided the only way he could get rid of the guy was to tell him a whole lot of lies.
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<p>Following is Gilad Atzmon&#8217;s appreciative <a href="http://www.itk.ntnu.no/ansatte/Andresen_Trond/kk-f/2004/0109.html" rel="nofollow">take</a> on the coherence of Jabotinsky:</p>
<blockquote><p>
My grandfather was a devoted Jabotinsky follower, and so was my mother as a juvenile (not anymore). I must admit that I, myself, enjoy reading Jabotinsky. Although I disagree with his racist orientation, I can still follow his logic, something that doesn&#8217;t happen to me when I read the so-called &#8220;left&#8221; Zionists.
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		<title>By: dan elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12767</link>
		<dc:creator>dan elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The indefatigably anonymous "jaime" is still hanging around, so let me just note for anyone who has recently become serious about these issues addressed by Messrs Petersen &#38; Sabri, that I have posted as a comment on the Mssrs P&#38;F's previous episode, Number 10, the entire text of Ze'ev "Vladimir" Jabotinsky's original article entitled "The Iron Wall". The "wall" in reference was, in Jabotinsky's words, a "wall of bayonets". 
I would recommend to any relative  "newbie" that you visit that article and after reading it, skip the comments &#38; scroll down to "The Iron Wall" -- which will put "jaime"s nonsense in context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The indefatigably anonymous &#8220;jaime&#8221; is still hanging around, so let me just note for anyone who has recently become serious about these issues addressed by Messrs Petersen &amp; Sabri, that I have posted as a comment on the Mssrs P&amp;F&#8217;s previous episode, Number 10, the entire text of Ze&#8217;ev &#8220;Vladimir&#8221; Jabotinsky&#8217;s original article entitled &#8220;The Iron Wall&#8221;. The &#8220;wall&#8221; in reference was, in Jabotinsky&#8217;s words, a &#8220;wall of bayonets&#8221;.<br />
I would recommend to any relative  &#8220;newbie&#8221; that you visit that article and after reading it, skip the comments &amp; scroll down to &#8220;The Iron Wall&#8221; &#8212; which will put &#8220;jaime&#8221;s nonsense in context.</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12757</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad, so Saad.

"...a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and streams of time...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad, so Saad.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and streams of time&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Kenny  writes: "I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine."...

This is preposterous. On large scale Please refer to Arthur Koestler's "The Thirteenth tribe”. (Incidentally, Koeseler was Jewish). On personal or small scale: Sammy Davis Jr., Liz Taylor, Whitney Houston, and many more converted to Judaism... BUT, by the way, does Kenny want to say that Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, Turkish Jews, etc. who share no somatic or anthropological similarities belong to the same DNA of the ancient Hebrews who once inhabited Palestine? When this putrid Zionist crap is going to stop? .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Kenny  writes: &#8220;I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine.&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>This is preposterous. On large scale Please refer to Arthur Koestler&#8217;s &#8220;The Thirteenth tribe”. (Incidentally, Koeseler was Jewish). On personal or small scale: Sammy Davis Jr., Liz Taylor, Whitney Houston, and many more converted to Judaism&#8230; BUT, by the way, does Kenny want to say that Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, Turkish Jews, etc. who share no somatic or anthropological similarities belong to the same DNA of the ancient Hebrews who once inhabited Palestine? When this putrid Zionist crap is going to stop? .</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12751</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is meant by "European [etc] groups adhering to Judaism". What is the difference between such groups and the European Jews? If there is none, why employ such a convoluted form of words? By the way, as far as I understand, conversion to Judaism and quite rare, and is permitted by the religious authorities only with considerable reluctance. Although I know Jews who are married to non-Jewish partners, I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is meant by &#8220;European [etc] groups adhering to Judaism&#8221;. What is the difference between such groups and the European Jews? If there is none, why employ such a convoluted form of words? By the way, as far as I understand, conversion to Judaism and quite rare, and is permitted by the religious authorities only with considerable reluctance. Although I know Jews who are married to non-Jewish partners, I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Saad</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12750</link>
		<dc:creator>Saad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jamie wrote:

&#62;&#62;So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known. 
Mass transfer of all Israelis.

Classic Zionist assertions. I did not read Kim saying that.  Where in the article he said that? Quote him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jamie wrote:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known.<br />
Mass transfer of all Israelis.</p>
<p>Classic Zionist assertions. I did not read Kim saying that.  Where in the article he said that? Quote him.</p>
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		<title>By: Saad</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12746</link>
		<dc:creator>Saad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, I meant to say:

They have no right EVEN if their ancestors HAVE inhabited the land they colonized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, I meant to say:</p>
<p>They have no right EVEN if their ancestors HAVE inhabited the land they colonized.</p>
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		<title>By: Saad</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12745</link>
		<dc:creator>Saad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sabri and Peterson wrote:

&#62;&#62;The statement does not address the primordial question: did European of Jewish faith and other converts to Judaism have right to colonize Palestine? The answer is a resolute no, and the reason for such resoluteness resides in one fact:  their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized.

They have no right EVEN if "their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized".  Just as Clinton and Bush do not have the right to colonize Ireland and UK, and just as my kids, born and raised in US have no right to colonize Arabia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sabri and Peterson wrote:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;The statement does not address the primordial question: did European of Jewish faith and other converts to Judaism have right to colonize Palestine? The answer is a resolute no, and the reason for such resoluteness resides in one fact:  their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized.</p>
<p>They have no right EVEN if &#8220;their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized&#8221;.  Just as Clinton and Bush do not have the right to colonize Ireland and UK, and just as my kids, born and raised in US have no right to colonize Arabia.</p>
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		<title>By: jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/01/defining-israeli-zionist-racism-part-11/#comment-12730</link>
		<dc:creator>jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known.

Mass transfer of all Israelis.

So how would you like to proceed now, Mein Fuhrer?

7,000,000  people.

Are you going to ask them all politely to leave. Offer them a generous 48 hours notice before resettlement....(in the East?) 

And who is going to carry out your orders, Mein Fuhrer? 

The Hamas?   The Republican Guard of Iran?   Syria?

And will there be a selection? Do all get transferred? Do you have some special way of telling Jews apart from Arab Israelis?

What if they fight back? 

You must have thought out the answers to such questions already, Mein Fuhrer...otherwise why else would you finally come out and declare your intentions to us?

As w you wrote:   "

Palestinian human rights activist Omar Barghouti recently stated: “No state has the right to exist as a racist state.” 

So I take it that by this reasoning, Saudi Arabia no longer has a right to exist. 

What are your plans for Saudi Arabia, Mein Fuhrer?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known.</p>
<p>Mass transfer of all Israelis.</p>
<p>So how would you like to proceed now, Mein Fuhrer?</p>
<p>7,000,000  people.</p>
<p>Are you going to ask them all politely to leave. Offer them a generous 48 hours notice before resettlement&#8230;.(in the East?) </p>
<p>And who is going to carry out your orders, Mein Fuhrer? </p>
<p>The Hamas?   The Republican Guard of Iran?   Syria?</p>
<p>And will there be a selection? Do all get transferred? Do you have some special way of telling Jews apart from Arab Israelis?</p>
<p>What if they fight back? </p>
<p>You must have thought out the answers to such questions already, Mein Fuhrer&#8230;otherwise why else would you finally come out and declare your intentions to us?</p>
<p>As w you wrote:   &#8221;</p>
<p>Palestinian human rights activist Omar Barghouti recently stated: “No state has the right to exist as a racist state.” </p>
<p>So I take it that by this reasoning, Saudi Arabia no longer has a right to exist. </p>
<p>What are your plans for Saudi Arabia, Mein Fuhrer?</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
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