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	<title>Comments on: “We Can’t Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans”</title>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this ever fully unravels it would transform life throughout the planet. Perhaps the mass deceptions  pushed so virulently by the psychopathic ubermensch at the CFR &#38; Bilderberg are finally beginning to collapse?

The Plame/Wilson business is far more multi-faceted, deeper and darker than most people realise - for an in depth study of what is at stake (not 'just' missing Minot nukes!) start at the beginning here:-
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005_07_24_archive.html

Above all, do whatever you can to 'protect' Sibel Edmonds by disseminating her knowledge far and wide - this is the roughest game with the roughest players on the planet and she knows it.

As for Rumsfeld and Cheney - they've been peddling the same old paranoiac lies for over 30 years now - odd that so few have caught on to their schtick yet...

Zionism has so much to answer for, so much death and destruction to atone for...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this ever fully unravels it would transform life throughout the planet. Perhaps the mass deceptions  pushed so virulently by the psychopathic ubermensch at the CFR &amp; Bilderberg are finally beginning to collapse?</p>
<p>The Plame/Wilson business is far more multi-faceted, deeper and darker than most people realise - for an in depth study of what is at stake (not &#8216;just&#8217; missing Minot nukes!) start at the beginning here:-<br />
<a href="http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005_07_24_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005_07_24_archive.html</a></p>
<p>Above all, do whatever you can to &#8216;protect&#8217; Sibel Edmonds by disseminating her knowledge far and wide - this is the roughest game with the roughest players on the planet and she knows it.</p>
<p>As for Rumsfeld and Cheney - they&#8217;ve been peddling the same old paranoiac lies for over 30 years now - odd that so few have caught on to their schtick yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Zionism has so much to answer for, so much death and destruction to atone for&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=vIvbCDsMrSg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Headspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerard Mulholland - I agree with most of what you say, but you make a fatal mistake. Al Quaeda is not an organisaion, it is an idea.  The Mujahadeen were setup by Brezezinski and the CIA as a "terrorist group" in order to destabalise afghanistan and draw in the soviets into "the bear trap" (by his own admission). The official history says the mujahadeen and the CIA responded to soviet aggression, but it was actually the other way around. since its inception bin laden and the mujahadeen were setup, funded and supplied by western interests, the "training camps" that were bombed after 911 were just deserted CIA camps from a bygone era. Al Quaeda as an organisation is just an idea that acts as a lightening rod for disaffected muslims, patsies and clandestine ops, the idea of al-quaeda enables the west to manipulate its patsies. The KLA in bosnia were part of the same "Al queada" network, bin laden and aq were working with the cia and nato in bosnia in the summer of 2001 just a few months before 911. blowback? the "Al quaeda" network has always had a symbiotic partner - think about it! what you've written above assumes that al-quaeda is a real organisation that grew independently and somehow needed to be penetrated - brezeinski and the cia created it! why would they create it and then de-couple themselves from it? Bin laden is dead long ago, everything else is made up to scare you.
read michel chossudovsky's book "americans war on terrorism"
http://www.amazon.com/Americas-War-Terrorism-Michel-Chossudovsky/dp/0973714719/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1201779594&#38;sr=8-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard Mulholland - I agree with most of what you say, but you make a fatal mistake. Al Quaeda is not an organisaion, it is an idea.  The Mujahadeen were setup by Brezezinski and the CIA as a &#8220;terrorist group&#8221; in order to destabalise afghanistan and draw in the soviets into &#8220;the bear trap&#8221; (by his own admission). The official history says the mujahadeen and the CIA responded to soviet aggression, but it was actually the other way around. since its inception bin laden and the mujahadeen were setup, funded and supplied by western interests, the &#8220;training camps&#8221; that were bombed after 911 were just deserted CIA camps from a bygone era. Al Quaeda as an organisation is just an idea that acts as a lightening rod for disaffected muslims, patsies and clandestine ops, the idea of al-quaeda enables the west to manipulate its patsies. The KLA in bosnia were part of the same &#8220;Al queada&#8221; network, bin laden and aq were working with the cia and nato in bosnia in the summer of 2001 just a few months before 911. blowback? the &#8220;Al quaeda&#8221; network has always had a symbiotic partner - think about it! what you&#8217;ve written above assumes that al-quaeda is a real organisation that grew independently and somehow needed to be penetrated - brezeinski and the cia created it! why would they create it and then de-couple themselves from it? Bin laden is dead long ago, everything else is made up to scare you.<br />
read michel chossudovsky&#8217;s book &#8220;americans war on terrorism&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Americas-War-Terrorism-Michel-Chossudovsky/dp/0973714719/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1201779594&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Americas-War-Terrorism-Michel-Chossudovsky/dp/0973714719/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1201779594&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Mulholland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard Mulholland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it important to remember that it is the DUTY of all Intelligence Services to acquire the best possible information on the activities, internal debates, personalities and policies of all and any other organisations considered to be inimical to the government or cause that they have been created to serve. 
To this end it is their DUTY to penetrate to the deepest degree possible both other Intelligence Services and also other organisations that fall within this ambit. The IRA, the German RAF, the Basque and Corsican Independence movements and Al Qa'ida are but a few that come to mind in this latter context.
The US, UK and Soviet penetrations of each others Intelligence Services and the Israeli penetration of the US State Department and of the Pentagon are now well documented. The fine line between -on the one hand- reporting on the thinking at the heart of an organisation and -on the other hand- INFLUENCING that thinking shows every sign of having been crossed in all these cases.
It is not difficult to appreciate that just as UK Intelligence achieved the coup of participating at the heart of IRA planning so is it the DUTY of the Israeli Intelligence Services to penetrate to the very heart of all radical Islamist organisations and -if possible- take a hand in directing some of their activities in a manner that the Government of Israel perceives to be in its own interest.
Indeed, if the Israeli Intelligence Services have NOT penetrated to the heart of Al Qa’ida, they have FAILED in their most serious duty.
It is in this context that all discussion about Al Qa'ida and 'what did a) the US and b) Israel know and when?' should be considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it important to remember that it is the DUTY of all Intelligence Services to acquire the best possible information on the activities, internal debates, personalities and policies of all and any other organisations considered to be inimical to the government or cause that they have been created to serve.<br />
To this end it is their DUTY to penetrate to the deepest degree possible both other Intelligence Services and also other organisations that fall within this ambit. The IRA, the German RAF, the Basque and Corsican Independence movements and Al Qa&#8217;ida are but a few that come to mind in this latter context.<br />
The US, UK and Soviet penetrations of each others Intelligence Services and the Israeli penetration of the US State Department and of the Pentagon are now well documented. The fine line between -on the one hand- reporting on the thinking at the heart of an organisation and -on the other hand- INFLUENCING that thinking shows every sign of having been crossed in all these cases.<br />
It is not difficult to appreciate that just as UK Intelligence achieved the coup of participating at the heart of IRA planning so is it the DUTY of the Israeli Intelligence Services to penetrate to the very heart of all radical Islamist organisations and -if possible- take a hand in directing some of their activities in a manner that the Government of Israel perceives to be in its own interest.<br />
Indeed, if the Israeli Intelligence Services have NOT penetrated to the heart of Al Qa’ida, they have FAILED in their most serious duty.<br />
It is in this context that all discussion about Al Qa&#8217;ida and &#8216;what did a) the US and b) Israel know and when?&#8217; should be considered.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this "conspiracy theory" denial.  What's the Governments version
of 9/11 if not a conspiracy theory?  It's the Geico conspiracy theory:
"9/11------ So easy a caveman can do it"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this &#8220;conspiracy theory&#8221; denial.  What&#8217;s the Governments version<br />
of 9/11 if not a conspiracy theory?  It&#8217;s the Geico conspiracy theory:<br />
&#8220;9/11&#8212;&#8212; So easy a caveman can do it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rjhuntington</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjhuntington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headspin, that's precisely what I believed went down. Valerie Plame deprived the neocons of the ace up their sleeve, their justification for invading Iraq, when her Brewster-Jennings CIA operation prevented the neocons from planting WMD in Iraq. 

Recall that before the invasion Rumsfeld boasted, "We even know where they are" in reference to WMD in Iraq, and proceeded to name locations. In view of the fact that the WMD turned out not to be there, how could Rumsfeld "know where they are" unless the neocons had plans to put them there? That was their was pre-invasion planning, how to smuggle in the WMD.

The traitorous neocons have deprived America of the ability to monitor WMD movement around the globe because of their anger over the agent in charge of the CIA group that stopped their plan, Valerie Plame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headspin, that&#8217;s precisely what I believed went down. Valerie Plame deprived the neocons of the ace up their sleeve, their justification for invading Iraq, when her Brewster-Jennings CIA operation prevented the neocons from planting WMD in Iraq. </p>
<p>Recall that before the invasion Rumsfeld boasted, &#8220;We even know where they are&#8221; in reference to WMD in Iraq, and proceeded to name locations. In view of the fact that the WMD turned out not to be there, how could Rumsfeld &#8220;know where they are&#8221; unless the neocons had plans to put them there? That was their was pre-invasion planning, how to smuggle in the WMD.</p>
<p>The traitorous neocons have deprived America of the ability to monitor WMD movement around the globe because of their anger over the agent in charge of the CIA group that stopped their plan, Valerie Plame.</p>
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		<title>By: Winter Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winter Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work, Gary! I agree with the other comments about the "inside job" remark but I recognize the value of that opening in venues where guys like us are not so plentiful. 

If you still have trouble believing 9/11 was an inside job, you might find this link helpful:
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2004/12/911-was-hoax-how-and-when-i-knew-it.html

Headspin: YES. Some other people DO suspect that.

Shabnam: YES! Exactly.

Octopus: Thanks for all those links!

Mulga: RIGHT ON!! Anti-elephantism, indeed. You know the elephants were persecuted once, and there's still anti-elephantism out there, and ... therefore ... um ... whenever you see an elephant on a rampage, you're not allowed to mention it. I think that's right.

You guys would really hate my blog.

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work, Gary! I agree with the other comments about the &#8220;inside job&#8221; remark but I recognize the value of that opening in venues where guys like us are not so plentiful. </p>
<p>If you still have trouble believing 9/11 was an inside job, you might find this link helpful:<br />
<a href="http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2004/12/911-was-hoax-how-and-when-i-knew-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2004/12/911-was-hoax-how-and-when-i-knew-it.html</a></p>
<p>Headspin: YES. Some other people DO suspect that.</p>
<p>Shabnam: YES! Exactly.</p>
<p>Octopus: Thanks for all those links!</p>
<p>Mulga: RIGHT ON!! Anti-elephantism, indeed. You know the elephants were persecuted once, and there&#8217;s still anti-elephantism out there, and &#8230; therefore &#8230; um &#8230; whenever you see an elephant on a rampage, you&#8217;re not allowed to mention it. I think that&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>You guys would really hate my blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Headspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone else suspect that this cabal of traitors were trying to smuggle WMD across the turkish border into iraq to setup saddam but were uncovered by Valerie Plame and her cia front Brewster Jennings before they could complete it.  Is that the real reason for outing her, because she was onto them? At the time I remember stories in the turkish press about a taxi driver caught with radioactive material under his cab seat on the border.  I put nothing past these people.

"I have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration"
 - wake up, of course it was. You are familiar with Operation Northwoods? - a plan to kill, yes KILL amercian citizens in washington and other cities, read the annex to appendix  to enclosure A of the Operation Northwoods document.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone else suspect that this cabal of traitors were trying to smuggle WMD across the turkish border into iraq to setup saddam but were uncovered by Valerie Plame and her cia front Brewster Jennings before they could complete it.  Is that the real reason for outing her, because she was onto them? At the time I remember stories in the turkish press about a taxi driver caught with radioactive material under his cab seat on the border.  I put nothing past these people.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration&#8221;<br />
 - wake up, of course it was. You are familiar with Operation Northwoods? - a plan to kill, yes KILL amercian citizens in washington and other cities, read the annex to appendix  to enclosure A of the Operation Northwoods document.</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noam Chomsky also thinks those who believe 9/11 was an inside job “too incredible for serious consideration.” He thinks this is extremely unlikey. Chomsky says this because he knows if he rejects the official phony explanation then he should be prepared to accept Israeli’s hands in the terror and since he has always protected the interest  of Israel first and most, he rejects any other explanation for the crime of 9/11.    Please watch the video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noam Chomsky also thinks those who believe 9/11 was an inside job “too incredible for serious consideration.” He thinks this is extremely unlikey. Chomsky says this because he knows if he rejects the official phony explanation then he should be prepared to accept Israeli’s hands in the terror and since he has always protected the interest  of Israel first and most, he rejects any other explanation for the crime of 9/11.    Please watch the video.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM</a></p>
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		<title>By: rjhuntington</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjhuntington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;"...the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job [is] too incredible for serious consideration."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Why do you find that idea too incredible for serious consideration? Don't you instead find the official explanation too incredible for serious consideration? The idea that jet fuel could make a fire hot enough to ever, much less in under an hour, bring down a steel skyscraper? This idea isn't too incredible for you, but the logical explanation that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition is? Huh? 

How, then, do you explain pools of molten metal (bright orange and yellow, not just red!) in the footprints of the towers 5 and 6 weeks after the towers came down? And this is only one documented anomaly.

Jet fuel, that's a good one!  hahaha.

I nominate you for a Pollyanna award. You must believe that men of high station are too honorable, too honest, too good in their hearts to ever do something as patently evil as destroy a landmark building full of fellow citizens in their own land, even if they and their cohorts stood to gain enormously. 

The rest of your article, however, seems to reveal a chink in the armor, as it were, an acknowledgment that perhaps some things are not as they appear, not quite as neat as the government would like us to believe.

Keep digging into 9/11, please. What we need are erstwhile believers in the government's official conspiracy theory -- like yourself, perhaps? -- to become its biggest skeptics and to relentlessly tear down the myths, obfuscations and fabrications until the truth is at last fully on display for all to see. 

Then, maybe, we can again become the Land of the Free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>&#8220;&#8230;the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job [is] too incredible for serious consideration.&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>Why do you find that idea too incredible for serious consideration? Don&#8217;t you instead find the official explanation too incredible for serious consideration? The idea that jet fuel could make a fire hot enough to ever, much less in under an hour, bring down a steel skyscraper? This idea isn&#8217;t too incredible for you, but the logical explanation that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition is? Huh? </p>
<p>How, then, do you explain pools of molten metal (bright orange and yellow, not just red!) in the footprints of the towers 5 and 6 weeks after the towers came down? And this is only one documented anomaly.</p>
<p>Jet fuel, that&#8217;s a good one!  hahaha.</p>
<p>I nominate you for a Pollyanna award. You must believe that men of high station are too honorable, too honest, too good in their hearts to ever do something as patently evil as destroy a landmark building full of fellow citizens in their own land, even if they and their cohorts stood to gain enormously. </p>
<p>The rest of your article, however, seems to reveal a chink in the armor, as it were, an acknowledgment that perhaps some things are not as they appear, not quite as neat as the government would like us to believe.</p>
<p>Keep digging into 9/11, please. What we need are erstwhile believers in the government&#8217;s official conspiracy theory &#8212; like yourself, perhaps? &#8212; to become its biggest skeptics and to relentlessly tear down the myths, obfuscations and fabrications until the truth is at last fully on display for all to see. </p>
<p>Then, maybe, we can again become the Land of the Free.</p>
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		<title>By: lukery</title>
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		<dc:creator>lukery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good work, Gary. Thanks.

Sibel gave a new &lt;a href="http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-edmonds-buckle-up-theres-much.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; yesterday. (I believe it will also be posted here at DV tomorrow)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work, Gary. Thanks.</p>
<p>Sibel gave a new <a href="http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-edmonds-buckle-up-theres-much.html" rel="nofollow">interview</a> yesterday. (I believe it will also be posted here at DV tomorrow)</p>
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		<title>By: The Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article states: "Both ATA and ATC have been targets of FBI investigations because of their suspected ties with drug smuggling, but Edmonds claims she heard wiretaps connecting ATC with other illegal activities, some related to 9/11. The CIA has investigated it in connection with the smuggling of nuclear secrets and material."

The above statement is misleading. The CIA has been directly involved in the smuggling of the nuclear secrets and the drug smuggling. This has been going on for decades before 9/11. To fully understand the scope of what Sibel Edmonds has uncovered here, read "The Last Circle" by Carol Marshall. 

http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/circle!.htm

To summarize, The Last Circle describes how the CIA, in conjunction with former FBI and military officers, and the spy agencies of other countries, including the Mossad, operates outside the US government trading guns, drugs, and military secrets for their own personal profit and political agendas. Sibel Edmonds describes the same type of complex operation taking place years later, and names people connected to the first Bush administration, during which many of these crimes took place.

Suggested reading to make sense of Sibel Edmonds' revelations, in order of relevance:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html
http://www.bearcave.com/bookrev/nugan_hand.html
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/

The Secret Team by L. Fletcher Prouty (linked above)

The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred McCoy

"Whiteout" by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article states: &#8220;Both ATA and ATC have been targets of FBI investigations because of their suspected ties with drug smuggling, but Edmonds claims she heard wiretaps connecting ATC with other illegal activities, some related to 9/11. The CIA has investigated it in connection with the smuggling of nuclear secrets and material.&#8221;</p>
<p>The above statement is misleading. The CIA has been directly involved in the smuggling of the nuclear secrets and the drug smuggling. This has been going on for decades before 9/11. To fully understand the scope of what Sibel Edmonds has uncovered here, read &#8220;The Last Circle&#8221; by Carol Marshall. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/circle" rel="nofollow">http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/last_circle/circle</a>!.htm</p>
<p>To summarize, The Last Circle describes how the CIA, in conjunction with former FBI and military officers, and the spy agencies of other countries, including the Mossad, operates outside the US government trading guns, drugs, and military secrets for their own personal profit and political agendas. Sibel Edmonds describes the same type of complex operation taking place years later, and names people connected to the first Bush administration, during which many of these crimes took place.</p>
<p>Suggested reading to make sense of Sibel Edmonds&#8217; revelations, in order of relevance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/052401_promis.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.bearcave.com/bookrev/nugan_hand.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bearcave.com/bookrev/nugan_hand.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/</a></p>
<p>The Secret Team by L. Fletcher Prouty (linked above)</p>
<p>The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred McCoy</p>
<p>&#8220;Whiteout&#8221; by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much enjoyed the article. Except at the beginning when you said:  "I am not one to easily embrace conspiracy theories, and in particular have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration."

A great many scientists, architects, engineers, professors, military professionals,  and more have found consideration of 911 as an inside job very credible indeed. I believe very few of us would hardly be considered naive, credulous, gullible or uncritical in our thinking.
Dr. Richard W.
Forensic Neuropsychologist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoyed the article. Except at the beginning when you said:  &#8220;I am not one to easily embrace conspiracy theories, and in particular have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration.&#8221;</p>
<p>A great many scientists, architects, engineers, professors, military professionals,  and more have found consideration of 911 as an inside job very credible indeed. I believe very few of us would hardly be considered naive, credulous, gullible or uncritical in our thinking.<br />
Dr. Richard W.<br />
Forensic Neuropsychologist</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this article, with its carefully marshalled facts and cogent arguments, will simply be dismissed by the judeofascists as 'anti-Semitism' or  'peddling anti-Semitic canards'. It's rather like a zoologists listing the features of large ears, tusks and pachydermatous integuement, drawing the conclusion that we are dealing with a large, herbivorous and potentially dangerous animal, and then being being accused, by an outraged pachyderm, of  'anti-elephantism'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this article, with its carefully marshalled facts and cogent arguments, will simply be dismissed by the judeofascists as &#8216;anti-Semitism&#8217; or  &#8216;peddling anti-Semitic canards&#8217;. It&#8217;s rather like a zoologists listing the features of large ears, tusks and pachydermatous integuement, drawing the conclusion that we are dealing with a large, herbivorous and potentially dangerous animal, and then being being accused, by an outraged pachyderm, of  &#8216;anti-elephantism&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: greybeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connecting the dots is crucial--Grossman has dual "nationality", but one loyalty, as is true of all Zionists.  He is by no means the first, nor will he be the last, to commit treason against the U.S. in order to serve Israel. Whether we are talking about the pilots who gave experimental radar equipment to the Communist Czechs, American Zionists stealing weapons-grade Uranium from a purification facility, or giving classified documents to a foreign power (Israel)--the loyalty and devotion is to that nation-state.  I don't know which is more treasonous--Bush or Grossman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecting the dots is crucial&#8211;Grossman has dual &#8220;nationality&#8221;, but one loyalty, as is true of all Zionists.  He is by no means the first, nor will he be the last, to commit treason against the U.S. in order to serve Israel. Whether we are talking about the pilots who gave experimental radar equipment to the Communist Czechs, American Zionists stealing weapons-grade Uranium from a purification facility, or giving classified documents to a foreign power (Israel)&#8211;the loyalty and devotion is to that nation-state.  I don&#8217;t know which is more treasonous&#8211;Bush or Grossman.</p>
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		<title>By: Espresso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Espresso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That is really fascinating and shocking! Rep. Waxman is one of the biggest supporters of Israel out there, so he could be clamping down on having hearings, because he can see how it might create a public backlash against Zionists in government and put into question the U.S. Israel relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That is really fascinating and shocking! Rep. Waxman is one of the biggest supporters of Israel out there, so he could be clamping down on having hearings, because he can see how it might create a public backlash against Zionists in government and put into question the U.S. Israel relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: simuvac</title>
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		<dc:creator>simuvac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the summary. This is very useful. The facts were beginning to overwhelm me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the summary. This is very useful. The facts were beginning to overwhelm me!</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Rynearson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Rynearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.alexjonesfan58.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Clip&lt;/a&gt; of Scott Horton interview with Philip Giraldi regarding Sibel Edmonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.alexjonesfan58.com" rel="nofollow">Clip</a> of Scott Horton interview with Philip Giraldi regarding Sibel Edmonds.</p>
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		<title>By: jack bergman</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An amazing article! Excellent work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An amazing article! Excellent work.</p>
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