http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/iraq/2004088539_kurds23.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/hornberger12132007.html

The main thesis of the essay is that the rise of modern capitalism should be attributed to prejudice – against both non-Catholics (including a great number of Protestants) and Jews – and to their active persecution. Running from Amsterdam to Venice, the discrimination resulted in the savviest business-persons in both groups decamping from their native European countries to more favorable climes to pursue their capitalist endeavors.

The essay is truly a delight to read and re-read, whatever one’s politics, not least because in it Trevor-Roper named names.

Right at this moment, the Kurds are being murdered by the NATO member Turkey with direct US/Israeli military aid/advice! This is not an allegation, it is the confirmed news of all imperialist news services for the past several days! Yet, we are forced to read racist anti-Kurd comments because Mr. Jalal Talebani of Iraq — an ally of Tehran’s rulers — is a US/Israeli puppet! More than twenty million Kurds are harmed because of the few who are agents! That is as racist as being anti-Jew!

Also, for the record, the rulers of Israel, UK, US, Kuwait and Iran wanted the ouster of Saddam Hussein, and they confess that they worked together to achieve that illegal goal! How the supporters of the Tehran regime can claim moral superiority about the Iraq tragedy is a hypocricy waiting for an expose!
In a December opinion poll done in Iraq, published by the Washington Post last week, almost every Iraqi who asked for an end to US occupation has indicated a desire to see an end to Tehran’s intervention in Iraq as well! Why? Because Iraq was the most advanced/most secular Muslim country of the Middle East before the criminal US invasion of 1991! Bush, Khomeini, bin-Laden and Ariel Sharon — all reactionaries — tried to destroy Iraq! What did they had in common against Iraq? Love of Holy Capital!

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40510

http://www.hrw.org/photos/2007/iran03/index.html

I agree with duaner. You cannot allow anger and frustration make you lose sight of what’s at stake and tread down a path that will only embolden your enemies and enable them to discredit your general viewpoint. In order to challenge and confront Zionists, especially the “Zionist left”, you must exercise strict and disciplined adherence to anti-racist principles.

I object, however, to what you are implying by posting this link in this context: Jews begat Capitalism which begat Imperialism. Imperialism is evil, therefore the Jews begat, or are themselves, evil. To have someone indicate that they are against the evils of Imperialism while at the same time waving a racist rant like Sobart’s as something worth reading is evidence of fuzzy thinking.

Can you hate Jews and be an anti-imperialist? Probably, but I don’t think you’d be win the Logician of the Year award. Imperialism is racism in a different guise. Instead of feeling free to hate/abuse/attack someone based on the inherent inferiority/evil of their race, you attack them because of the evident superiority of your country.

You’re against imperialism. Good. Now go the rest of the way and renounce racism, and hatred in any of its forms.

http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/sombart/jews.pdf

Are you there? Just a note to wonder what happened to the last post I submitted. Any ideas?

Henceforth I’ll take that good advice & make a copy of anything I post in one of these boxes. Beginning right now:)

Thanks,

Dan

At this point, I’ll settle for clarity. It’s been a long day.

I find it deplorable that an editor of all people would choose to use the word “censored,” but were I an editor of Dissident Voice, I’d likely also curtail “protracted speech usually marked by intemperate, vituperative, or harshly censorious language ,” which appeals “to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect.” (Merriam-Webster Online.)

On the other hand, what I was saying above is that a portion of your missing posts may be the result of your own rapid typing.

Keep at it. Regardless of any censorship, getting your perspectives out is the one way to continue to confront this issue. I use to dismiss arguments about “racism on the left” and was an avid reader/listener of Chomsky. He had me believing that Zionism was restricted to Israel or that it was originally a benign nationalistic movement for a group of oppressed people. However because I was able to read contrary opinions I was able to develop my own analysis. What became obvious was the denials by so-called “left-wing” opinion makers as well as their anger toward people of color who would have affinity against ALL FORMS of racism in their analysis and perspectives.

What really altered my views was what happened with the anti-war movement and so-called “leftist” that revealed their phoniness in 2004. I noticed that International Answer would always speak about Zionism and the issue of Palestinian rights. I noticed strong criticism about Answer coming from UFPJ and other members on the left. The criticisms was that they are “sectarian”, “disruptive”, and are turning off people because of their “ultra-left” politics.

There may be some iota of truth to those arguments but what that criticism didn’t address is why UFPJ themselves didn’t address the issue of racism and Zionism. Is speaking about racism and Zionism “ultra-left” or are Answers critics really trying to avoid discussion of racism and Zionism.

Thus in 2004 you saw all of the so-called “left-wing heroes” throw their support to John Kerry or the “safe-state/Anybody But Bush” strategy. People like Howard Zinn (who apparently went “neutral” on the moving train of Zionism), Noam Chomsky, Michael Albert, and many others. For all their preaching about “principles” when it came time to be counted they showed their true alliances.

I would say that if your comments are being removed that you keep a copy of your comments so that you can easily cut and paste them back in.

For your info, deadbeat, both Glen For and Bruce Dixon (and Margaret Kimberly) are currently the editors of BAR.

Thanks in any case for being the first poster-person I’ve read to say that (s)he reads BAR regularly. Some writers of DV articles I’ve read have referred to it.

Lloyd Rowsey

U.S. Miltary vs. Israel Firsters

I don’t believe my observation of Mr. Ford’s article should be described as a “denouncement”. It is clearly an observation of what is missing from his analysis. Clearly James Petras was able to provide a complete and accurate analysis weeks BEFORE the NIE was released to the public. I’m an avid reader of BAR and was an avid reader of Black Commentary when Mr. Ford was the editor there.

Here’s a link to James Petras article …
U.S. Miltary vs. Israel Firsters

As you can see, while Glen Ford’s article confirms what Dr. Petras already wrote, Ford’s article is missing key information that Dr. Petras includes in his article.

Thanks,
Deadbeat.

Myles