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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11382</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article Dennis...except, I think any little good americans have done isn't worth a 5 minute discussion...</description>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11307</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We once fought fascism, humanity’s worst scourge, and pledged at Yalta and Potsdam to never allow anything so awful to ever surface again. But we did. And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism.&lt;/i&gt;

Yet another "Chomky-like" screed who uses past  "U.S. Imperialism" to obscure the imperialism of the 21st Century.  "U.S. Imperialism" obscures the various MOTIVATIONS and interest that existed in the various epochs.

Imperialism in 2007 is different from the imperialism of the 1960 which was different from the imperialism of the 1930 which was different from the imperialism of the 18th and 19th century.

To this author "fascism" was humanity "worst" scourge.  Fascism was in power for at most, what, 10 years in human history.  This author perspective insults the millions of Native American who where slaughtered, African American who where enslaved for hundreds of years, and oppressed Palestinians resisting Zionism after 60 years.

His "exceptionalism" only reflects his own RACISM and his obvious desire to obscure Zionism's influence on "U.S Imperialism". This is yet another clear example of "racism on the left" and is the root of why the U.S. Left is so weak and incoherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We once fought fascism, humanity’s worst scourge, and pledged at Yalta and Potsdam to never allow anything so awful to ever surface again. But we did. And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism.</i></p>
<p>Yet another &#8220;Chomky-like&#8221; screed who uses past  &#8220;U.S. Imperialism&#8221; to obscure the imperialism of the 21st Century.  &#8220;U.S. Imperialism&#8221; obscures the various MOTIVATIONS and interest that existed in the various epochs.</p>
<p>Imperialism in 2007 is different from the imperialism of the 1960 which was different from the imperialism of the 1930 which was different from the imperialism of the 18th and 19th century.</p>
<p>To this author &#8220;fascism&#8221; was humanity &#8220;worst&#8221; scourge.  Fascism was in power for at most, what, 10 years in human history.  This author perspective insults the millions of Native American who where slaughtered, African American who where enslaved for hundreds of years, and oppressed Palestinians resisting Zionism after 60 years.</p>
<p>His &#8220;exceptionalism&#8221; only reflects his own RACISM and his obvious desire to obscure Zionism&#8217;s influence on &#8220;U.S Imperialism&#8221;. This is yet another clear example of &#8220;racism on the left&#8221; and is the root of why the U.S. Left is so weak and incoherent.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11306</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/i&gt;We once fought fascism, humanity’s worst scourge, and pledged at Yalta and Potsdam to never allow anything so awful to ever surface again. But we did. And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism.&lt;/i&gt;

Yet another "Chomky-like" screed who uses past  "U.S. Imperialism" to obscure the imperialism of the 21st Century.  "U.S. Imperialism" obscures the various MOTIVATIONS and interest that existed in the various epochs.

Imperialism in 2007 is different from the imperialism of the 1960 which was different from the imperialism of the 1930 which was different from the imperialism of the 18th and 19th century.

To this author "fascism" was humanity "worst" scourge.  Fascism was in power for at most, what, 10 years in human history.  This author perspective insults the millions of Native American who where slaughtered, African American who where enslaved for hundreds of years, and oppressed Palestinians resisting Zionism after 60 years.

His "exceptionalism" only reflects his own RACISM and his obvious desire to obscure Zionism's influence on "U.S Imperialism". This is yet another clear example of "racism on the left" and is the root of why the U.S. Left is so weak and incoherent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We once fought fascism, humanity’s worst scourge, and pledged at Yalta and Potsdam to never allow anything so awful to ever surface again. But we did. And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism.</p>
<p>Yet another &#8220;Chomky-like&#8221; screed who uses past  &#8220;U.S. Imperialism&#8221; to obscure the imperialism of the 21st Century.  &#8220;U.S. Imperialism&#8221; obscures the various MOTIVATIONS and interest that existed in the various epochs.</p>
<p>Imperialism in 2007 is different from the imperialism of the 1960 which was different from the imperialism of the 1930 which was different from the imperialism of the 18th and 19th century.</p>
<p>To this author &#8220;fascism&#8221; was humanity &#8220;worst&#8221; scourge.  Fascism was in power for at most, what, 10 years in human history.  This author perspective insults the millions of Native American who where slaughtered, African American who where enslaved for hundreds of years, and oppressed Palestinians resisting Zionism after 60 years.</p>
<p>His &#8220;exceptionalism&#8221; only reflects his own RACISM and his obvious desire to obscure Zionism&#8217;s influence on &#8220;U.S Imperialism&#8221;. This is yet another clear example of &#8220;racism on the left&#8221; and is the root of why the U.S. Left is so weak and incoherent.</p>
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		<title>By: HR</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11298</link>
		<dc:creator>HR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, The Ugly American caused quite a stir in the U.S. of the 1960s, at least among those who were exposed to it, not the case for most of us working-class kids, kids who heard about the book in grammar or high school, or on TV, but didn't find it in local libraries.  I didn't have access to a copy until my college days, after the Vietnam War had already exploded.  That the book was such a bombshell said more about attitudes, and propaganda, here than it did about societies and events outside this country.

When I read the book, then, and then reread it a couple of years ago, I was struck with the attitudes of the authors toward the people of the fictitious Southeast Asian country and their portrayal of "our" intentions toward them as basically good, though flawed in implementation.  It seemed to trumpet the attitude that we must "help" our "little brown brothers" to become "like us", a sort of missionary point of view that had become the predominating one from the Spanish American War onward.  The authors even gave support for continued colonialism in their depiction of the U.S. colonel and his French counterpart applying "smart" tactics of warfare in dealing with the native "commie" forces attempting to throw off colonial rule.

The ultimate demonstration of their support for overall condescension toward native people was their depiction of how the wife of the Ugly American (the authors' "hero", who actually lived and worked with working-class people while in the country) "taught" the native people how to make a broom with a longer handle to replace the short-handled one they had used for generations.  That scene actually angered me, as it subtly, though not too subtly, portrayed the inhabitants as essentially too stupid to figure out anything so simple on their own, having had to rely on their superior white benefactors to do their thinking for them.  Here, the authors appeared to actually be "honest", perhaps without intending to be.

And, not much has changed, nor is it likely to in the absence of a strong external influence beyond our control.  We will continue to impose our ways and beliefs on all, whether not those ways are desired.  Our propagandists, including preachers, will point out how much people love us, and how they are (literally) dying to become like us, as we drown them in McDonalds and Wal-Marts.  I do believe that global warming may have its silver lining ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, The Ugly American caused quite a stir in the U.S. of the 1960s, at least among those who were exposed to it, not the case for most of us working-class kids, kids who heard about the book in grammar or high school, or on TV, but didn&#8217;t find it in local libraries.  I didn&#8217;t have access to a copy until my college days, after the Vietnam War had already exploded.  That the book was such a bombshell said more about attitudes, and propaganda, here than it did about societies and events outside this country.</p>
<p>When I read the book, then, and then reread it a couple of years ago, I was struck with the attitudes of the authors toward the people of the fictitious Southeast Asian country and their portrayal of &#8220;our&#8221; intentions toward them as basically good, though flawed in implementation.  It seemed to trumpet the attitude that we must &#8220;help&#8221; our &#8220;little brown brothers&#8221; to become &#8220;like us&#8221;, a sort of missionary point of view that had become the predominating one from the Spanish American War onward.  The authors even gave support for continued colonialism in their depiction of the U.S. colonel and his French counterpart applying &#8220;smart&#8221; tactics of warfare in dealing with the native &#8220;commie&#8221; forces attempting to throw off colonial rule.</p>
<p>The ultimate demonstration of their support for overall condescension toward native people was their depiction of how the wife of the Ugly American (the authors&#8217; &#8220;hero&#8221;, who actually lived and worked with working-class people while in the country) &#8220;taught&#8221; the native people how to make a broom with a longer handle to replace the short-handled one they had used for generations.  That scene actually angered me, as it subtly, though not too subtly, portrayed the inhabitants as essentially too stupid to figure out anything so simple on their own, having had to rely on their superior white benefactors to do their thinking for them.  Here, the authors appeared to actually be &#8220;honest&#8221;, perhaps without intending to be.</p>
<p>And, not much has changed, nor is it likely to in the absence of a strong external influence beyond our control.  We will continue to impose our ways and beliefs on all, whether not those ways are desired.  Our propagandists, including preachers, will point out how much people love us, and how they are (literally) dying to become like us, as we drown them in McDonalds and Wal-Marts.  I do believe that global warming may have its silver lining &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11296</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental problem is that all the modern countries of the American continent are fruit of the poisoned tree of European colonialism. The modern inhabitants of the continent are not responsible for that situation but equally, they cannot undo it. However, they also should not seek to glorify it or minimise its evil. The USA should never have happened and, in this day and age, would not be allowed to happen. The moral challenge for US Americans is therefore to face up to, and deal with, the fact that through accident of birth and no fault of their own, they have inherited what is probably the most evil manifestation of European colonialism.

This is not just a problem of the "Right". I am constantly shocked by the partonisingly racist way in which US "progressives" presume to deal with the rest of the continent, if not the world. US Americans need to accept that they are not some sort of God-annointed master race whose right and duty it is to impose their ideology (whatever it may be) on the rest of mankind.

As for the American continent, why is literally nobody propsing to copy the immense political, cultural and economic success of the European Union? All the countires of the continent have had a similar history of native peoples robbed and slaughtered by European colonists, who then declared independence from the mother country and continued the job they had started. All have seen Africans kidnapped and brought there as slaves. What, other than the master race delusion of US Americans, is preventing people from coming together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental problem is that all the modern countries of the American continent are fruit of the poisoned tree of European colonialism. The modern inhabitants of the continent are not responsible for that situation but equally, they cannot undo it. However, they also should not seek to glorify it or minimise its evil. The USA should never have happened and, in this day and age, would not be allowed to happen. The moral challenge for US Americans is therefore to face up to, and deal with, the fact that through accident of birth and no fault of their own, they have inherited what is probably the most evil manifestation of European colonialism.</p>
<p>This is not just a problem of the &#8220;Right&#8221;. I am constantly shocked by the partonisingly racist way in which US &#8220;progressives&#8221; presume to deal with the rest of the continent, if not the world. US Americans need to accept that they are not some sort of God-annointed master race whose right and duty it is to impose their ideology (whatever it may be) on the rest of mankind.</p>
<p>As for the American continent, why is literally nobody propsing to copy the immense political, cultural and economic success of the European Union? All the countires of the continent have had a similar history of native peoples robbed and slaughtered by European colonists, who then declared independence from the mother country and continued the job they had started. All have seen Africans kidnapped and brought there as slaves. What, other than the master race delusion of US Americans, is preventing people from coming together?</p>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11287</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism."

Holy Moly, Andy!

Where is the "evil" before it emerges and gets reborn?

What would I do to find the "evil" and try to manage it with peeyar, whether it is emerged or just dormant somewhere in the zeitgeist.

How can the evil that "emerges" take over and thwart the "kinder and   gentler values" so fast?

So, although we have no idea how these dramatic changes occur,  we can THWART the evil (if we have the POLITICAL WILL ) from emerging by making damn sure that our values smite the head of the evil before it emerges completely and makes a mess of everything that we love and cherish?

And get back to the the garden of eden before the snake "emerged with the evil thoughts," -  just as it says in the holy scriptures.

Lyndon had plenty of political will, but was he evil, anti-gook,  or just mis-informed from having attended a teachers college in TX?

Peace, justice, solidarity, &#38;  liberation through the  nurturing Goddesses emerging soon  from the womb of Jungian analysis. 

And no dessert for the ultraconservative extremists with their excess animuses and ugly pusses in Lubbock.

No more Red Raiders or Longhorns in the TX Lege either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the reborn evil emerged within our own borders, nurtured by ultraconservative extremism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy Moly, Andy!</p>
<p>Where is the &#8220;evil&#8221; before it emerges and gets reborn?</p>
<p>What would I do to find the &#8220;evil&#8221; and try to manage it with peeyar, whether it is emerged or just dormant somewhere in the zeitgeist.</p>
<p>How can the evil that &#8220;emerges&#8221; take over and thwart the &#8220;kinder and   gentler values&#8221; so fast?</p>
<p>So, although we have no idea how these dramatic changes occur,  we can THWART the evil (if we have the POLITICAL WILL ) from emerging by making damn sure that our values smite the head of the evil before it emerges completely and makes a mess of everything that we love and cherish?</p>
<p>And get back to the the garden of eden before the snake &#8220;emerged with the evil thoughts,&#8221; -  just as it says in the holy scriptures.</p>
<p>Lyndon had plenty of political will, but was he evil, anti-gook,  or just mis-informed from having attended a teachers college in TX?</p>
<p>Peace, justice, solidarity, &amp;  liberation through the  nurturing Goddesses emerging soon  from the womb of Jungian analysis. </p>
<p>And no dessert for the ultraconservative extremists with their excess animuses and ugly pusses in Lubbock.</p>
<p>No more Red Raiders or Longhorns in the TX Lege either.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11284</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should not drink and blog.</description>
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		<title>By: gerald spezio</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11283</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald spezio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another powerful prescription for "what we need to do " from a writer who has been writing since the sixties.

So, "Let’s also pledge to hereafter present a different face to long-repulsed humanity."
 
"Hereafter" has a legal and eternal ring to it, like a ringing sound about your head and shoulders.

Yeah, why not?

I could out place myself in both groups; the ugly-faced group and the long-repulsed humanity group ( the Johnnie-piss-offs group ), but so what?

Human placement into the proper groups is like product placement but much more humanistic and helpful for global mind change when the nurturing Goddess comes with Dave and the blissful mind-stuff.

And we can all dance the ghost dance or just sing and dance or just dance and smoke some good dope,  Man!

Comes the "different face" presenting to the Johnnie-piss-offs (something like babboons presenting their tooshies, but a little different), and the space aliens come in with their prickly dildos ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another powerful prescription for &#8220;what we need to do &#8221; from a writer who has been writing since the sixties.</p>
<p>So, &#8220;Let’s also pledge to hereafter present a different face to long-repulsed humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hereafter&#8221; has a legal and eternal ring to it, like a ringing sound about your head and shoulders.</p>
<p>Yeah, why not?</p>
<p>I could out place myself in both groups; the ugly-faced group and the long-repulsed humanity group ( the Johnnie-piss-offs group ), but so what?</p>
<p>Human placement into the proper groups is like product placement but much more humanistic and helpful for global mind change when the nurturing Goddess comes with Dave and the blissful mind-stuff.</p>
<p>And we can all dance the ghost dance or just sing and dance or just dance and smoke some good dope,  Man!</p>
<p>Comes the &#8220;different face&#8221; presenting to the Johnnie-piss-offs (something like babboons presenting their tooshies, but a little different), and the space aliens come in with their prickly dildos &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11278</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a long time, growing up in Eisenhower's idyllic America, to realize that this author is correct;  America's leaders have blown it...we are  now regarded, correctly, as the Great Satan of the world,  hated and/or feared in all third world nations.   Even in Iraq, where we claim to be rescuing the populace, most locals think it's OK to shoot the US occupiers. As even Bush admitted, "We are addicted to[cheap]  oil", and like all addicts, only painful steps can fix what ails us...first on the agenda is to abolish the reactionary Electoral College, which often makes voting for President a farce.  Then we need to STOP BORROWING MONEY except in a genuine, life or death emergency; we are now 9.2 TRILLION dollars in the hole and going deeper at the rate of about a trillion dollars a year [when honestly calculated].   Then we need to end the incestuous link between Government and the military-industrial complex, which makes the temptation to start unnecessary wars irresistible.   Finally, and I'm not kidding about this:  NO MORE TEXAN PRESIDENTS OR VICE PRESIDENTS!!!  We've learned the hard way that to elect one is to start a genocidal decade-long war to pump up military profits.   ENOUGH!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a long time, growing up in Eisenhower&#8217;s idyllic America, to realize that this author is correct;  America&#8217;s leaders have blown it&#8230;we are  now regarded, correctly, as the Great Satan of the world,  hated and/or feared in all third world nations.   Even in Iraq, where we claim to be rescuing the populace, most locals think it&#8217;s OK to shoot the US occupiers. As even Bush admitted, &#8220;We are addicted to[cheap]  oil&#8221;, and like all addicts, only painful steps can fix what ails us&#8230;first on the agenda is to abolish the reactionary Electoral College, which often makes voting for President a farce.  Then we need to STOP BORROWING MONEY except in a genuine, life or death emergency; we are now 9.2 TRILLION dollars in the hole and going deeper at the rate of about a trillion dollars a year [when honestly calculated].   Then we need to end the incestuous link between Government and the military-industrial complex, which makes the temptation to start unnecessary wars irresistible.   Finally, and I&#8217;m not kidding about this:  NO MORE TEXAN PRESIDENTS OR VICE PRESIDENTS!!!  We&#8217;ve learned the hard way that to elect one is to start a genocidal decade-long war to pump up military profits.   ENOUGH!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony S.</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-ugly-american-makeover/#comment-11276</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mortgage crisis is an example where the mortgage brokers and the entire mortgage and banking industry were allowed to exploit the United States' own people.  A lot of people in the United States are learning the same lesson other people in the world have learned regarding unencumbered greed.     One article stated that most of the people who signed up for these escsalator loans would have qualified for fixed interest loans at a lower beginning rate than the escalator loans but were talked into these escalator loans by deceptive mortgage brokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mortgage crisis is an example where the mortgage brokers and the entire mortgage and banking industry were allowed to exploit the United States&#8217; own people.  A lot of people in the United States are learning the same lesson other people in the world have learned regarding unencumbered greed.     One article stated that most of the people who signed up for these escsalator loans would have qualified for fixed interest loans at a lower beginning rate than the escalator loans but were talked into these escalator loans by deceptive mortgage brokers.</p>
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