Comments on: The Great Xmas Eve Black-Seminole Victory http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:33:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: s. claassen http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11676 s. claassen Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:03:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11676 Florida became part of the United States in 1819. The first military incursion by the U.S. was against the Barbery pirates of northern Africa, late 1700's. Some other historical missteps, but the general thread of the article is still valid. In the age of Google it doesn't take that much effort to check this kind of stuff out. Didn't check for sure about the pirates though. Florida became part of the United States in 1819. The first military incursion by the U.S. was against the Barbery pirates of northern Africa, late 1700’s. Some other historical missteps, but the general thread of the article is still valid. In the age of Google it doesn’t take that much effort to check this kind of stuff out. Didn’t check for sure about the pirates though.

]]> By: The only war we ever lost… « Homeless on the High Desert http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11312 The only war we ever lost… « Homeless on the High Desert Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:45:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11312 [...] William Loren Katz / December 19th, 2007 [...] [...] William Loren Katz / December 19th, 2007 [...]

]]> By: catherine http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11285 catherine Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:13:11 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11285 Great article and holiday gift, Mr. Katz, thanks so much. I'm going to get the book from the library and if they don't have it, ask them to order it. We all hear, of course, that the Seminole people are still formally at war with the U.S., but never hear any of the details. Also thanks for other book recommendation, Dan Elliott. Great article and holiday gift, Mr. Katz, thanks so much. I’m going to get the book from the library and if they don’t have it, ask them to order it. We all hear, of course, that the Seminole people are still formally at war with the U.S., but never hear any of the details.

Also thanks for other book recommendation, Dan Elliott.

]]> By: HR http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11254 HR Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:34:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11254 Kinda nice to read something uplifting for a change, what with all the flag waving, allegiance pledging, good-hearted murcan myths, and god bless murca crap we get fed most of the time. Kinda nice to read something uplifting for a change, what with all the flag waving, allegiance pledging, good-hearted murcan myths, and god bless murca crap we get fed most of the time.

]]> By: hp http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11239 hp Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:28:15 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11239 Just like Alexander "defeated" King Porus.. Just like Alexander “defeated” King Porus..

]]> By: dan elliott http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11238 dan elliott Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:48:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11238 Comment on the preceding Comment: them Injun Fighters never stop, do they. Still a lot of them around, but I guess it's progress that most prefer to remain incognito? "The Invisible War: the African-American Anti-Slavery Resistance from the Stono Rebellion through the Seminole Wars" by Dr. Y. N. Kly covers much mentioned in Dr. Katz' excellent article; also has a lot of really great pictures from the time & shortly after. Plus includes a section on the Gullah/Geetchee culture. Available in paperback from Clarity Press, Atlanta. (which is also Jas Petras' & Francis Boyle's publisher). Kly makes the point (among others) that while we've heard a great deal in recent years about the Underground Railroad to Canada , less attention has been paid to the much more heavily travelled route to Spanish Florida. Comment on the preceding Comment: them Injun Fighters never stop, do they. Still a lot of them around, but I guess it’s progress that most prefer to remain incognito?

“The Invisible War: the African-American Anti-Slavery Resistance from the Stono Rebellion through the Seminole Wars” by Dr. Y. N. Kly covers much mentioned in Dr. Katz’ excellent article; also has a lot of really great pictures from the time & shortly after. Plus includes a section on the Gullah/Geetchee culture. Available in paperback from Clarity Press, Atlanta. (which is also Jas Petras’ & Francis Boyle’s publisher).

Kly makes the point (among others) that while we’ve heard a great deal in recent years about the Underground Railroad to Canada , less attention has been paid to the much more heavily travelled route to Spanish Florida.

]]> By: heike http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11223 heike Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:49:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11223 The situation of the Seminoles today makes them the envy of the rest of us. Every member of the tribe will receive a dividend from gambling profits this year of $120,000. Talk about reparations! http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-semday1newsbnov25,0,5727424.story The situation of the Seminoles today makes them the envy of the rest of us. Every member of the tribe will receive a dividend from gambling profits this year of $120,000. Talk about reparations!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-semday1newsbnov25,0,5727424.story

]]> By: Steven L. Snyder http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11218 Steven L. Snyder Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:12:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/12/the-great-xmas-eve-black-seminole-victory/#comment-11218 Gee, you don't consider Little Turtle's defeat of large army invading his homeland in Ohio and slaying between 700-800 soldiers to be significant? It was only the largest loss by American troops to aboriginal people in history Gee, you don’t consider Little Turtle’s defeat of large army invading his homeland in Ohio and slaying between 700-800 soldiers to be significant? It was only the largest loss by American troops to aboriginal people in history

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