Comments on: Democratic Debate Diabetes and the Mexican Revolution

By: Marcelle Cendra

Marcelle Cendra — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:41:07 +0000

Hi, Lloyd. For starters, please note that your emails to me have been returned as undeliverable. That should be corrected so that we can communicate privately. In confidence. Once that’s straightened out, I’d be very happy to set up a rendezvous and share the ideas with you. I submitted my proposal tonight as per the request of a leader in the (California) Latino community, and I expect a response very shortly. I had met with him earlier today, and he seemed to approve of the basics; he requested an email delineation of the concepts. He has access to a huge number of union workers and others (who have much reason to move in solidarity), and I want to underscore, once again, that this “new approach” should pull in high stakes, and prove to be quite an historic accomplishment. Inspiring loads of people on the fence. I appreciate the interest expressed by Lloyd. I’d like some others to jump on board here. Thanks for your kind consideration, Marcelle

By: Lloyd Rowsey

Lloyd Rowsey — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:51:37 +0000

I’d like to express my support for a new electoral system paradigm, a different way to approach getting people elected. I live in the Bay Area and I would appreciate more information, Marcelle, about what is “on the table for discussion now.” There’s such disgust as I’ve never seen with politics-as-practised! It’s profound and it’s everywhere.

Something MIGHT be done.

By: Marcelle Cendra

Marcelle Cendra — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:22:46 +0000

I just came from meeting with a very influential member of the Latino community (including union members, et. al.)…for the purpose of making use of the electoral system following a new paradigm. Ordinarily, I’d have absolutely no hope for anything positive coming out of engagement with electoral politics. However, this meeting was promising. There is a new model on the table for discussion now. And anyone living in the Bay Area and thereabouts in California should be a candidate for meeting with us…to make a difference. I thank Dan for his joining in here. I’d like to take the “disenchantment” down a singular road now, if there’s any solidarity to be had out there. — Marcelle

By: dan elliott

dan elliott — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:55:48 +0000

hear hear.

the rethuglicans are great liars but they are paragons of candor compared to the Dumbockrats. GOPers are primarily concerned about the interests of the Affluent & White American, will the Dems stock in trade is being All Things To All People. It’s like Marx’s “alienation effect” where the worker’s own labor keeps him in exploited subjection: in the USA today, the concerned citizen activists’ own attempts to “participate” wind up reinforcing the Imperial State With A Twist of Zionism.
For instance, the Civil Rights movement ended legal Segregation but didn’t stop Jim Crow. “Integration” turned out to mean Mass Incarceration. “Black Empowerment” turned out to mean the vast Suit & Tie Subliminal Plantation, typified by the Cong. Blk. Caucus. The “inside[outside strategy” turns out to mean “Protest is okay, but you have to get our permission first”.