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		<title>By: jukin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jukin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So by not allowing a discussion of the radical wing of Islam, leftists think they are promoting critical thinking?

You guys would have fit right in with Hitler and Stalin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So by not allowing a discussion of the radical wing of Islam, leftists think they are promoting critical thinking?</p>
<p>You guys would have fit right in with Hitler and Stalin.</p>
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		<title>By: Art M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Leupp does not address the actual issue of Islamofacism in this article.  The article is simply a series of distortions.  It is a tragedy that progressives are leaving it to the right wing to address this serious problem.  This is a problem that progressives ought to be taking the lead on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Leupp does not address the actual issue of Islamofacism in this article.  The article is simply a series of distortions.  It is a tragedy that progressives are leaving it to the right wing to address this serious problem.  This is a problem that progressives ought to be taking the lead on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Leupp, thank you for this paper which shows your concern about attack on humanity by those who are preaching freedom and democracy.  
According to wikipedia the term Islamofascism was first used in 1990 by Scottish writer Malise Ruthven, coming from a family who defended the British Empire and died for it.  When the writer used this term to describe the authoritarian government of Muslim World, then it was picked up by the neocons to be used specifically against Iran to brainwash the ignorant population and let them to endless Zionist wars. 
Italian Fascism, German Nazism and other European fascist movement of the 1930s were nationalist and secular, closely allied with international capital.  The main characteristics were modern, bureaucratic and “rational”.  The fascist were the violators of law and used terror against both the existing political structure and the society at large. Their willingness to resort to violence, assassinations, and coups to expand their spheres of influence, therefore, it was imperialistic in nature.
Majority of these characteristics are described George Bush and his associates’ neocon who are Zionists.  Therefore the term Zionofascism is appropriate to show those who want to harm humanity to gain unlimited power and expand their sphere of influence by waging war, terror, “targeted” assassinations and violation of international law and stealing resources of other countries to gain “real assets” instead of plastics. 
These characteristics are well applied to Zionofascists and their puppet who happens to be “Muslim government” of Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Pakistan and yet they have been protected and invited to the center of terror, the black house, over and over.  Everyone in the Middle East and those who analyze the nature of the killing in Iraq knows that majority of the killings are done by the Saudis on behalf of the US to create instability and force the population into submission.  These killings have an intention to create a “civil war” between Sunni and Shiites so the occupier takes this excuse to explain its brutal occupation and criminal activities in Iraq since every single lies they have used so far has been exposed.  The intended “civil war” buys more time for the Zionofascists designer of attack on humanity and tells the ignorant population at home that we can not leave until Iraq is stable because an unstable Iraq is dangerous for us and the world.  Everyone knows that their occupation and the accompanied terror by the occupier and those who act on their behalf, Saudi, are the main reasons for the disaster in Iraq.  Islamofascism campaign is head by a neocon who explains the poster of their campaign by saying that women are beheaded under Taliban because of sexual impropriety yet forgets to tell that Taliban was the product of Pakistan, US and Saudi Arabia efforts.  He claims that Islamofascists believe “America was attacked because US has done a lot of bad things and has occupied …” and one person from the audience completed his sentence by saying.. occupied 100s of countries.  The campaign has targeted Iran and not those fascist countries who are close associates of the Zionofascists such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Instead, this neocon goes after Hezbollah and Hamas who are killed by the Zionists all the time against all international law and code of human behavior.  Horowitz  points out to “honor killing” of women but refuse to mention Pakistan and Sadie Arabia where the political elites, British-American in thinking and Arab or Pakistani in blood, refuse to educate and provide any opportunities for the population at large especially women who are not allowed to drive their private car, forget about participation in political system.  There is no word on Wahabism since the west have gained so much benefits from wahabism because it has given a bad name to Islamic civilization and has funded Mojahedins who were named Taliban later to force the United State’s enemy out of Afghanistan on expense of Afghani people to loose more than a Million of their population, and later their children to be kidnapped by the Zionofascists to bring to Quantanoma and created Abu Gharib to treat their children with torture and rape. Instead, he goes after Iran whose population is educated and Iranian women are active politically and working in science, technology, art, music and work as drivers film directors and compete as pilot. This Zionist lies when he attributed female circumcision to Islam who was corrected by the audience and reminded him of his lie by saying that this is an African tradition and not Islamic tradition. 
Those from the “left” who analyze George Michael’s book and find it “interesting”  forget to tell you that his work was supported by RAND cooperation, close to Neocons who supported pro Bush politician such as Zalmay Khalilzad.  Furthermore, most of the universities involved in the campaign of Islamofascism which spread lies to scare people to force into another Zionist war, are part of RAND cooperation.    These individuals are blind to the atrocities of the Zionists and have supported the words of individuals who attack those who are against the influence of Zionist Lobby in foreign policy of the United States.

Those individuals who present the Zionist war, global war, as means of population control like the racist British economist Thomas Malthus who found war and famine as means of population control for the poor people forgets that this war has been waged to change the Middle East map in favor of the Zionist state and to grab the real assets of the population of the region.  Therefore, we are not talking about “poor people” to be eliminated.  As matter of facts due to your policy of double standardness you have enrich yourself.  Thus if global war should be used to control the population for lack of  natural resources, then the best would be the population of those countries who consume and pollute the most  for accumulation of capital and profits without any concern for others and the planet and are willing to attack on humanity to expand their sphere of influence.

http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/10/27/david-horowitz-islamofascism-awareness-week-bombs/

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/the-israel-lobby/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Leupp, thank you for this paper which shows your concern about attack on humanity by those who are preaching freedom and democracy.<br />
According to wikipedia the term Islamofascism was first used in 1990 by Scottish writer Malise Ruthven, coming from a family who defended the British Empire and died for it.  When the writer used this term to describe the authoritarian government of Muslim World, then it was picked up by the neocons to be used specifically against Iran to brainwash the ignorant population and let them to endless Zionist wars.<br />
Italian Fascism, German Nazism and other European fascist movement of the 1930s were nationalist and secular, closely allied with international capital.  The main characteristics were modern, bureaucratic and “rational”.  The fascist were the violators of law and used terror against both the existing political structure and the society at large. Their willingness to resort to violence, assassinations, and coups to expand their spheres of influence, therefore, it was imperialistic in nature.<br />
Majority of these characteristics are described George Bush and his associates’ neocon who are Zionists.  Therefore the term Zionofascism is appropriate to show those who want to harm humanity to gain unlimited power and expand their sphere of influence by waging war, terror, “targeted” assassinations and violation of international law and stealing resources of other countries to gain “real assets” instead of plastics.<br />
These characteristics are well applied to Zionofascists and their puppet who happens to be “Muslim government” of Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Pakistan and yet they have been protected and invited to the center of terror, the black house, over and over.  Everyone in the Middle East and those who analyze the nature of the killing in Iraq knows that majority of the killings are done by the Saudis on behalf of the US to create instability and force the population into submission.  These killings have an intention to create a “civil war” between Sunni and Shiites so the occupier takes this excuse to explain its brutal occupation and criminal activities in Iraq since every single lies they have used so far has been exposed.  The intended “civil war” buys more time for the Zionofascists designer of attack on humanity and tells the ignorant population at home that we can not leave until Iraq is stable because an unstable Iraq is dangerous for us and the world.  Everyone knows that their occupation and the accompanied terror by the occupier and those who act on their behalf, Saudi, are the main reasons for the disaster in Iraq.  Islamofascism campaign is head by a neocon who explains the poster of their campaign by saying that women are beheaded under Taliban because of sexual impropriety yet forgets to tell that Taliban was the product of Pakistan, US and Saudi Arabia efforts.  He claims that Islamofascists believe “America was attacked because US has done a lot of bad things and has occupied …” and one person from the audience completed his sentence by saying.. occupied 100s of countries.  The campaign has targeted Iran and not those fascist countries who are close associates of the Zionofascists such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Instead, this neocon goes after Hezbollah and Hamas who are killed by the Zionists all the time against all international law and code of human behavior.  Horowitz  points out to “honor killing” of women but refuse to mention Pakistan and Sadie Arabia where the political elites, British-American in thinking and Arab or Pakistani in blood, refuse to educate and provide any opportunities for the population at large especially women who are not allowed to drive their private car, forget about participation in political system.  There is no word on Wahabism since the west have gained so much benefits from wahabism because it has given a bad name to Islamic civilization and has funded Mojahedins who were named Taliban later to force the United State’s enemy out of Afghanistan on expense of Afghani people to loose more than a Million of their population, and later their children to be kidnapped by the Zionofascists to bring to Quantanoma and created Abu Gharib to treat their children with torture and rape. Instead, he goes after Iran whose population is educated and Iranian women are active politically and working in science, technology, art, music and work as drivers film directors and compete as pilot. This Zionist lies when he attributed female circumcision to Islam who was corrected by the audience and reminded him of his lie by saying that this is an African tradition and not Islamic tradition.<br />
Those from the “left” who analyze George Michael’s book and find it “interesting”  forget to tell you that his work was supported by RAND cooperation, close to Neocons who supported pro Bush politician such as Zalmay Khalilzad.  Furthermore, most of the universities involved in the campaign of Islamofascism which spread lies to scare people to force into another Zionist war, are part of RAND cooperation.    These individuals are blind to the atrocities of the Zionists and have supported the words of individuals who attack those who are against the influence of Zionist Lobby in foreign policy of the United States.</p>
<p>Those individuals who present the Zionist war, global war, as means of population control like the racist British economist Thomas Malthus who found war and famine as means of population control for the poor people forgets that this war has been waged to change the Middle East map in favor of the Zionist state and to grab the real assets of the population of the region.  Therefore, we are not talking about “poor people” to be eliminated.  As matter of facts due to your policy of double standardness you have enrich yourself.  Thus if global war should be used to control the population for lack of  natural resources, then the best would be the population of those countries who consume and pollute the most  for accumulation of capital and profits without any concern for others and the planet and are willing to attack on humanity to expand their sphere of influence.</p>
<p><a href="http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/10/27/david-horowitz-islamofascism-awareness-week-bombs/" rel="nofollow">http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/10/27/david-horowitz-islamofascism-awareness-week-bombs/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/the-israel-lobby/" rel="nofollow">http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/the-israel-lobby/</a></p>
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		<title>By: david hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>david hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is fine in its assessment but where due to growing factors, a global war in some highly powerful minds, may make perfect sense. I say this as the greatest threat to humanity is the population explosion and where a major global war would solve this problem. Indeed, there is a minority of humans with considerable wealth and power who see the destruction of others as the savoir of themselves (and their vast wealth it has to be said also). The late Glenn Seaborg(Element 106 Seaborgium) our founding President personally appealed and implored President Truman not to drop the 'bomb' on occupied Japanese territory. The President though through his military advisers took no notice even though he discovered Plutonium and was head of the Plutonium plant on the Manhattan Project. But behind the scenes also at the time, there were dark figures who saw that after the fall of Japan, great wealth could also be secured. These figures manipulate presidents and leaders to their own ends and basically again today, change-master politicians and governments in particular, are in the pocket of very rich and very powerful individuals/multinational companies, who seemingly do not look for peace but in many ways for wars and their own vested economic interests. Thinking that they can survive because they are on the strongest side and the reason why in many ways US$1.2 trillion per annum and growing, is spent on armaments now. 
But getting back to humankind's greatest threat (even greater than that of even the warmongers it has to be said) is that of the ever-growing population problem and where I give a little evidence based facts that people may not be aware of.
The population of the world (in absolute numbers) has only to increase year-on-year by a mere 0.85% for there to be 12 billion people by 2075. The current population growth (in absolute numbers) is 1.27% (most recent UN figures), some 26% above the percentage increase for 12 billion humans to exist in 2075. But looking at the present rate of human growth, there would be 15.6 billion human inhabitants living on planet Earth in 67-years time. But again, as growth rates are, in statistical terms (not the best accurate measure by any means), slightly declining year-on-year, let us assume that the growth rate is the average of the two, which is 1.18%, then we would still have 14.7 billion people to support. In every scenario it is something that the world's resources could not possibly support considering rising standards of living throughout the world and where it is predicted that India alone will have over half-billion middle class citizens by 2025 (McKinsey, May 2007) on its present economic path. And a final point, what is happening with statistics is that they are being manipulated as usual. In this respect people say that population is declining statistically, but where in reality as we have a greater number each year for our base-line, the figures are really growing at the same rate as the year before, or close to that. It is a bit of a con job that governments in particular like to use so not to alarm their electorate. 
Therefore overall looking at our bleak future in a world with vastly dwindling resources by the decade, a war may very well be on the cards for humankind in this century, and one where this time there will be no winners.
Dr David Hill
World Innovation Foundation Charity
Bern, Switzerland
www.thewif.org.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is fine in its assessment but where due to growing factors, a global war in some highly powerful minds, may make perfect sense. I say this as the greatest threat to humanity is the population explosion and where a major global war would solve this problem. Indeed, there is a minority of humans with considerable wealth and power who see the destruction of others as the savoir of themselves (and their vast wealth it has to be said also). The late Glenn Seaborg(Element 106 Seaborgium) our founding President personally appealed and implored President Truman not to drop the &#8216;bomb&#8217; on occupied Japanese territory. The President though through his military advisers took no notice even though he discovered Plutonium and was head of the Plutonium plant on the Manhattan Project. But behind the scenes also at the time, there were dark figures who saw that after the fall of Japan, great wealth could also be secured. These figures manipulate presidents and leaders to their own ends and basically again today, change-master politicians and governments in particular, are in the pocket of very rich and very powerful individuals/multinational companies, who seemingly do not look for peace but in many ways for wars and their own vested economic interests. Thinking that they can survive because they are on the strongest side and the reason why in many ways US$1.2 trillion per annum and growing, is spent on armaments now.<br />
But getting back to humankind&#8217;s greatest threat (even greater than that of even the warmongers it has to be said) is that of the ever-growing population problem and where I give a little evidence based facts that people may not be aware of.<br />
The population of the world (in absolute numbers) has only to increase year-on-year by a mere 0.85% for there to be 12 billion people by 2075. The current population growth (in absolute numbers) is 1.27% (most recent UN figures), some 26% above the percentage increase for 12 billion humans to exist in 2075. But looking at the present rate of human growth, there would be 15.6 billion human inhabitants living on planet Earth in 67-years time. But again, as growth rates are, in statistical terms (not the best accurate measure by any means), slightly declining year-on-year, let us assume that the growth rate is the average of the two, which is 1.18%, then we would still have 14.7 billion people to support. In every scenario it is something that the world&#8217;s resources could not possibly support considering rising standards of living throughout the world and where it is predicted that India alone will have over half-billion middle class citizens by 2025 (McKinsey, May 2007) on its present economic path. And a final point, what is happening with statistics is that they are being manipulated as usual. In this respect people say that population is declining statistically, but where in reality as we have a greater number each year for our base-line, the figures are really growing at the same rate as the year before, or close to that. It is a bit of a con job that governments in particular like to use so not to alarm their electorate.<br />
Therefore overall looking at our bleak future in a world with vastly dwindling resources by the decade, a war may very well be on the cards for humankind in this century, and one where this time there will be no winners.<br />
Dr David Hill<br />
World Innovation Foundation Charity<br />
Bern, Switzerland<br />
<a href="http://www.thewif.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewif.org.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post-9/11 development is how the electorally significant elements of the far right have made their peace with Israel and are now scapegoating Muslims as the "Existential Threat", all in the cause of standing for &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-J8cXYVIo" rel="nofollow"&gt;"freedom"&lt;/a&gt;, of course. 

The last Foreign Minister of Italy, &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9c8ly" rel="nofollow"&gt;Giancarlo Fini&lt;/a&gt;--who called Benito Mussolini the "greatest statesman of the 20th Century" as late as the mid-90s and was a frequent visitor to top government offices in all NATO countries and even &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1751457.stm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Israel&lt;/a&gt; where Ariel Sharon called him a "good and friendly leader"--might very well be the face of things to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post-9/11 development is how the electorally significant elements of the far right have made their peace with Israel and are now scapegoating Muslims as the &#8220;Existential Threat&#8221;, all in the cause of standing for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-J8cXYVIo" rel="nofollow">&#8220;freedom&#8221;</a>, of course. </p>
<p>The last Foreign Minister of Italy, <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9c8ly" rel="nofollow">Giancarlo Fini</a>&#8211;who called Benito Mussolini the &#8220;greatest statesman of the 20th Century&#8221; as late as the mid-90s and was a frequent visitor to top government offices in all NATO countries and even <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1751457.stm" rel="nofollow">Israel</a> where Ariel Sharon called him a &#8220;good and friendly leader&#8221;&#8211;might very well be the face of things to come.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Nasreddin</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ Nasreddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, - The answer is that all of the above named groups believe in the “sacredness of private property” - is stupid and shows that you don't know a thing about Islam.

In Islam we have a system of "waqf" - which is a system of social security wherein the religious tax, called "zakat" and which is incumbent upon all Muslims being one of the five pillars of Islam, is distributed among the poor, travellers, various institutions such as schools and hospitals (which are free), etc. Additionally, there are a number of charitable practices in Islam which encourage people to share wealth. One of the traditions of our Prophet was that we look after our seventh neighbor and that we are not dutiful Muslims unless we want for our brethren what we want for ourselves. Historically, there were instances when very wealthy people were forced to give up their money to charity. To horde wealth in Islam is a sin.

In the modern context, such organizations like Hizballah have tremendous affect on people's lives through their charitable work. Looking at what is happening now in Lebanon – Hizballah is rebuilding the destroyed areas, providing money to the homeless, etc. Everything one may think the government ought to do but is not doing. Hamas provided many schools for the Palestinians when the "authority" did nothing.

True, Islam gives people the right to private property – thus you can argue that it is "sacred" – but you ought not draw a conclusion that secular ideologies of neo-Nazis and whomever are the same as the religious ideas of Islam.

I think the whole point of the article is that fringe groups and those groups with extreme ideologies do cooperate for the larger end goal. Once certain foes are conquered, those groups will fight it out – as we saw in Afghanistan with the Soviet invasion. It has also been noted that "terrorist" groups cooperate – IRA with PLO, etc. I myself have received a few calls in the past from local KKK and neo-Nazi groups expressing their support for our mosque against the Zionist occupation in Palestine. It can be a strange world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, - The answer is that all of the above named groups believe in the “sacredness of private property” - is stupid and shows that you don&#8217;t know a thing about Islam.</p>
<p>In Islam we have a system of &#8220;waqf&#8221; - which is a system of social security wherein the religious tax, called &#8220;zakat&#8221; and which is incumbent upon all Muslims being one of the five pillars of Islam, is distributed among the poor, travellers, various institutions such as schools and hospitals (which are free), etc. Additionally, there are a number of charitable practices in Islam which encourage people to share wealth. One of the traditions of our Prophet was that we look after our seventh neighbor and that we are not dutiful Muslims unless we want for our brethren what we want for ourselves. Historically, there were instances when very wealthy people were forced to give up their money to charity. To horde wealth in Islam is a sin.</p>
<p>In the modern context, such organizations like Hizballah have tremendous affect on people&#8217;s lives through their charitable work. Looking at what is happening now in Lebanon – Hizballah is rebuilding the destroyed areas, providing money to the homeless, etc. Everything one may think the government ought to do but is not doing. Hamas provided many schools for the Palestinians when the &#8220;authority&#8221; did nothing.</p>
<p>True, Islam gives people the right to private property – thus you can argue that it is &#8220;sacred&#8221; – but you ought not draw a conclusion that secular ideologies of neo-Nazis and whomever are the same as the religious ideas of Islam.</p>
<p>I think the whole point of the article is that fringe groups and those groups with extreme ideologies do cooperate for the larger end goal. Once certain foes are conquered, those groups will fight it out – as we saw in Afghanistan with the Soviet invasion. It has also been noted that &#8220;terrorist&#8221; groups cooperate – IRA with PLO, etc. I myself have received a few calls in the past from local KKK and neo-Nazi groups expressing their support for our mosque against the Zionist occupation in Palestine. It can be a strange world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McNiven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McNiven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis Proyect asked the following question in the above comment:

" Why would various neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, white separatists  find themselves attracted to movements such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad? "

The answer is that all of the above named groups believe in the "sacredness of private property", and they all have one formidable common enemy which is called Socialism! Please remember Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan years of unlimited support for the Mujahedin of Afghanistan against Afghan socilaists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Proyect asked the following question in the above comment:</p>
<p>&#8221; Why would various neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, white separatists  find themselves attracted to movements such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad? &#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is that all of the above named groups believe in the &#8220;sacredness of private property&#8221;, and they all have one formidable common enemy which is called Socialism! Please remember Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagan years of unlimited support for the Mujahedin of Afghanistan against Afghan socilaists!</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Proyect</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Proyect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/micene.html
 The Enemy of My Enemy
The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right
George Michael

April 2006
368 pages, 6-1⁄8 x 9-1⁄4
Cloth ISBN 978-0-7006-1444-8, $34.95 (t)

book cover imageIn the violent world of radical extremists, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” In this provocative study, George Michael reveals how that precept plays out in the unexpected bonding between militant Islam and the extreme right in America and Europe.

At first glance these two groups would seem to share little if any common ground. Why would various neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, white separatists, and antigovernment radicals find themselves attracted to movements such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad? After all, the extreme right’s racist and radical Christian segments tend to deride and exclude all nonwhites and non-Christians, while Islamic fundamentalists angrily denounce all non-Muslims, especially Americans, as infidels. Nevertheless, as Michael shows, they have developed strikingly similar critiques on such issues as American foreign policy, the media, modernity, and the New World Order.

The first book to focus on the growing linkage between these two movements, The Enemy of My Enemy analyzes the histories and ideologies guiding these disparate groups, clarifies the nature of their mutual appeal, and shows how the Internet and globalization have made increased interaction possible. Michael notes that one particularly dominant thread running throughout both camps is a fervent anti-Semitism, accompanied by strong pro-Palestinian views, anger over Israel’s influence on American policymakers, and opposition to the Iraq War and the U.S. presence in the Middle East.

Michael also speculates on how the so-called War on Terror might unfold if this unexpected and alarming convergence grows stronger. While the thought of Americans assisting or fighting alongside Islamic militants—in America—sounds utterly far-fetched, Michael points out that some members of the extreme right have publicly expressed admiration for Al Qaeda’s audacious attacks on 9/11.

Daring to consider the unthinkable, Michael provides an insightful and sane look at the possibilities for collaboration between these groups and raises a quiet but clear alarm for anyone concerned about America’s future.

    “A detailed and reliable study of a neglected topic—the rapprochment, ideological as well as political, between extremists on the American right and Islamist extremists. It is widely believed that because of the racism and the xenophobia of the former and the anti-Christian attitudes of the latter such
    a convergence is well nigh impossible, but as the author shows, ‘the enemy of my enemy is [still] my friend.’”--Walter Laqueur, author of A History of Terrorism

    “A fascinating and authoritative book about a threat that has been ignored by most terrorism experts.”--Christopher Hewitt, author of Understanding Terrorism in America: From the Klan to Al Qaeda and Political Violence in Modern America

GEORGE MICHAEL is assistant professor of political science and administration of justice at the University of Virginia’s College at Wise and the author of Confronting Right-Wing Extremism and Terrorism in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/micene.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/micene.html</a><br />
 The Enemy of My Enemy<br />
The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right<br />
George Michael</p>
<p>April 2006<br />
368 pages, 6-1⁄8 x 9-1⁄4<br />
Cloth ISBN 978-0-7006-1444-8, $34.95 (t)</p>
<p>book cover imageIn the violent world of radical extremists, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” In this provocative study, George Michael reveals how that precept plays out in the unexpected bonding between militant Islam and the extreme right in America and Europe.</p>
<p>At first glance these two groups would seem to share little if any common ground. Why would various neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, white separatists, and antigovernment radicals find themselves attracted to movements such as Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Egyptian Islamic Jihad? After all, the extreme right’s racist and radical Christian segments tend to deride and exclude all nonwhites and non-Christians, while Islamic fundamentalists angrily denounce all non-Muslims, especially Americans, as infidels. Nevertheless, as Michael shows, they have developed strikingly similar critiques on such issues as American foreign policy, the media, modernity, and the New World Order.</p>
<p>The first book to focus on the growing linkage between these two movements, The Enemy of My Enemy analyzes the histories and ideologies guiding these disparate groups, clarifies the nature of their mutual appeal, and shows how the Internet and globalization have made increased interaction possible. Michael notes that one particularly dominant thread running throughout both camps is a fervent anti-Semitism, accompanied by strong pro-Palestinian views, anger over Israel’s influence on American policymakers, and opposition to the Iraq War and the U.S. presence in the Middle East.</p>
<p>Michael also speculates on how the so-called War on Terror might unfold if this unexpected and alarming convergence grows stronger. While the thought of Americans assisting or fighting alongside Islamic militants—in America—sounds utterly far-fetched, Michael points out that some members of the extreme right have publicly expressed admiration for Al Qaeda’s audacious attacks on 9/11.</p>
<p>Daring to consider the unthinkable, Michael provides an insightful and sane look at the possibilities for collaboration between these groups and raises a quiet but clear alarm for anyone concerned about America’s future.</p>
<p>    “A detailed and reliable study of a neglected topic—the rapprochment, ideological as well as political, between extremists on the American right and Islamist extremists. It is widely believed that because of the racism and the xenophobia of the former and the anti-Christian attitudes of the latter such<br />
    a convergence is well nigh impossible, but as the author shows, ‘the enemy of my enemy is [still] my friend.’”&#8211;Walter Laqueur, author of A History of Terrorism</p>
<p>    “A fascinating and authoritative book about a threat that has been ignored by most terrorism experts.”&#8211;Christopher Hewitt, author of Understanding Terrorism in America: From the Klan to Al Qaeda and Political Violence in Modern America</p>
<p>GEORGE MICHAEL is assistant professor of political science and administration of justice at the University of Virginia’s College at Wise and the author of Confronting Right-Wing Extremism and Terrorism in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone put it, if the Mufti didn't exist, he would have to be invented. Here's an excerpt from Peter Novick's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-American-Life-Peter-Novick/dp/0618082328" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Holocaust in American Life&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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The claims of Palestinian complicity in the murder of the European Jews were to some extent a defensive strategy, a preemptive response to the Palestinian complaint that if Israel was recompensed for the Holocaust, it was unjust that Palestinian Muslims should pick up the bill for the crimes of European Christians. The assertion that Palestinians were complicit in the Holocaust was mostly based on the case of the Mufti of Jerusalem, a pre-World War II Palestinian nationalist leader who, to escape imprisonment by the British, sought refuge during the war in Germany. The Mufti was in many ways a disreputable character, but post-war claims that he played any significant part in the Holocaust have never been sustained. This did not prevent the editors of the four-volume &lt;i&gt;Encyclopedia of the Holocaust&lt;/i&gt; from giving him a starring role. The article on the Mufti is more than twice as long as the articles on Goebbels and Goering, longer than the articles on Himmler and Heydrich combined, longer than the article on Eichmann--of all the biographical articles, it is exceeded in length, but only slightly, by the entry for Hitler.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone put it, if the Mufti didn&#8217;t exist, he would have to be invented. Here&#8217;s an excerpt from Peter Novick&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-American-Life-Peter-Novick/dp/0618082328" rel="nofollow"><i>The Holocaust in American Life</i></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
The claims of Palestinian complicity in the murder of the European Jews were to some extent a defensive strategy, a preemptive response to the Palestinian complaint that if Israel was recompensed for the Holocaust, it was unjust that Palestinian Muslims should pick up the bill for the crimes of European Christians. The assertion that Palestinians were complicit in the Holocaust was mostly based on the case of the Mufti of Jerusalem, a pre-World War II Palestinian nationalist leader who, to escape imprisonment by the British, sought refuge during the war in Germany. The Mufti was in many ways a disreputable character, but post-war claims that he played any significant part in the Holocaust have never been sustained. This did not prevent the editors of the four-volume <i>Encyclopedia of the Holocaust</i> from giving him a starring role. The article on the Mufti is more than twice as long as the articles on Goebbels and Goering, longer than the articles on Himmler and Heydrich combined, longer than the article on Eichmann&#8211;of all the biographical articles, it is exceeded in length, but only slightly, by the entry for Hitler.
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qhaxp" rel="nofollow"&gt;beef&lt;/a&gt; whatsoever with Muslims for this man who also coined the phrase 'Clash of Civilizations'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qhaxp" rel="nofollow">beef</a> whatsoever with Muslims for this man who also coined the phrase &#8216;Clash of Civilizations&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Leupp</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/%e2%80%9cislamofascism%e2%80%9d-the-failure-of-a-concept/#comment-8289</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Leupp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually...

The above-referenced essay was a CRITIQUE of the concept of "Christian fascism," a questioning of its use by some on the radical left.  Anyone actually reading it through will realize that.

The "Answering Islam" piece by the anonymous "Silas" is a work of Christian proselytization, an effort to show how Christianity rather tghan Islam is the truth---not an exercise in "truth in labeling about Mr. Leupp." 

But good try, anonymous Elderofziyon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually&#8230;</p>
<p>The above-referenced essay was a CRITIQUE of the concept of &#8220;Christian fascism,&#8221; a questioning of its use by some on the radical left.  Anyone actually reading it through will realize that.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Answering Islam&#8221; piece by the anonymous &#8220;Silas&#8221; is a work of Christian proselytization, an effort to show how Christianity rather tghan Islam is the truth&#8212;not an exercise in &#8220;truth in labeling about Mr. Leupp.&#8221; </p>
<p>But good try, anonymous Elderofziyon.</p>
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		<title>By: heike</title>
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		<dc:creator>heike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2005/07/todays-jewish-world-domination-news.html

This whole writing is horribly naive.  Do you really think the "international Jewish conspiracy" died out in the 1930's?  Look again (see above) .  The real brown shirts are those who try to disrupt people from speaking on campus when they disagree with their views.  Why would you think someone who introduced Daniel Pipes is a brown shirt?  Is Pipes a member of a Nazi organization?

The people about whom Leupp is writing have said many times that they have no beef with Islam -- only its extreme form.  Is there no Christian extremism?  And does using that term mean that all Christians are suspect?   Leupp has written his own essay on the concept of  Christian fascism, but somehow linking the concept to Islam is beyond his comprehension.  http://counterpunch.org/leupp01132005.html

And of course, Mr. Leupp and his comrades simply sweep under the table the history of collaboration of leading Muslim clerics with the Nazis:

//The Mufti spent the remainder of the war assisting with the formation of Muslim Waffen SS units in the Balkans and the formation of schools and training centers for imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units. Beginning in 1943, al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions. The largest of which was the 13th "Handschar" division of 21,065 men.//

Why do you call American conservatives fascists?  You may disagree with their political views, but calling them fascist means that they have no political legitimacy in our country.  Who gives you the right to decide that?


For truth in labeling about Mr. Leupp, try
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/garyleupp.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2005/07/todays-jewish-world-domination-news.html" rel="nofollow">http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2005/07/todays-jewish-world-domination-news.html</a></p>
<p>This whole writing is horribly naive.  Do you really think the &#8220;international Jewish conspiracy&#8221; died out in the 1930&#8217;s?  Look again (see above) .  The real brown shirts are those who try to disrupt people from speaking on campus when they disagree with their views.  Why would you think someone who introduced Daniel Pipes is a brown shirt?  Is Pipes a member of a Nazi organization?</p>
<p>The people about whom Leupp is writing have said many times that they have no beef with Islam &#8212; only its extreme form.  Is there no Christian extremism?  And does using that term mean that all Christians are suspect?   Leupp has written his own essay on the concept of  Christian fascism, but somehow linking the concept to Islam is beyond his comprehension.  <a href="http://counterpunch.org/leupp01132005.html" rel="nofollow">http://counterpunch.org/leupp01132005.html</a></p>
<p>And of course, Mr. Leupp and his comrades simply sweep under the table the history of collaboration of leading Muslim clerics with the Nazis:</p>
<p>//The Mufti spent the remainder of the war assisting with the formation of Muslim Waffen SS units in the Balkans and the formation of schools and training centers for imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units. Beginning in 1943, al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions. The largest of which was the 13th &#8220;Handschar&#8221; division of 21,065 men.//</p>
<p>Why do you call American conservatives fascists?  You may disagree with their political views, but calling them fascist means that they have no political legitimacy in our country.  Who gives you the right to decide that?</p>
<p>For truth in labeling about Mr. Leupp, try<br />
<a href="http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/garyleupp.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/garyleupp.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary Leupp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Leupp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice these "Muslims Against Sharia" issuing this zombi-like tribute (to what was in fact a dismal failure of a propaganda barrage) include no names. 

I'm reminded of "Students For Academic Freedom" founded by 60 year old nonstudent David Horowitz. 

But thanks for monitoring the left sites, guys, and trying to make an impression. Entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice these &#8220;Muslims Against Sharia&#8221; issuing this zombi-like tribute (to what was in fact a dismal failure of a propaganda barrage) include no names. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of &#8220;Students For Academic Freedom&#8221; founded by 60 year old nonstudent David Horowitz. </p>
<p>But thanks for monitoring the left sites, guys, and trying to make an impression. Entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Muslims Against Sharia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muslims Against Sharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims Against Sharia congratulate David Horowitz FREEDOM CENTER and Mike Adams, Tammy Bruce, Phyllis Chesler, Ann Coulter, Nonie Darwish, Greg Davis, Stephen Gale, David Horowitz, Joe Kaufman, Michael Ledeen, Michael Medved, Alan Nathan, Cyrus Nowrasteh, Daphne Patai, Daniel Pipes, Dennis Prager, Luana Saghieh, Rick Santorum, Jonathan Schanzer, Christina Sommers, Robert Spencer, Brian Sussman, Ed Turzanski, Ibn Warraq and other speakers on the success of the Islamofascism Awareness Week. 

Islamofascism (or Islamism) is the main threat facing modern civilization and ignorance about this threat is astounding. We hope that this event becomes regular and reaches every campus. 

A great many Westerners do not see the clear distinction between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism). They need to understand that the difference between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism) is the same as the difference between Christianity and Christian Identity Movement (White Supremacy Movement).

&lt;a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/10/islamofascism-awareness-week.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Original post&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslims Against Sharia congratulate David Horowitz FREEDOM CENTER and Mike Adams, Tammy Bruce, Phyllis Chesler, Ann Coulter, Nonie Darwish, Greg Davis, Stephen Gale, David Horowitz, Joe Kaufman, Michael Ledeen, Michael Medved, Alan Nathan, Cyrus Nowrasteh, Daphne Patai, Daniel Pipes, Dennis Prager, Luana Saghieh, Rick Santorum, Jonathan Schanzer, Christina Sommers, Robert Spencer, Brian Sussman, Ed Turzanski, Ibn Warraq and other speakers on the success of the Islamofascism Awareness Week. </p>
<p>Islamofascism (or Islamism) is the main threat facing modern civilization and ignorance about this threat is astounding. We hope that this event becomes regular and reaches every campus. </p>
<p>A great many Westerners do not see the clear distinction between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism). They need to understand that the difference between Islam and Islamism (Islamofascism) is the same as the difference between Christianity and Christian Identity Movement (White Supremacy Movement).</p>
<p><a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/10/islamofascism-awareness-week.html" rel="nofollow">Original post</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hatuxka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hatuxka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But as heard here last week by someone, Ziofacism is real and a concept that is apt and works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But as heard here last week by someone, Ziofacism is real and a concept that is apt and works.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &lt;a href="http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2006/08/the_big_lie_abo.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;useful&lt;/a&gt; article by someone who knows what he's talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2006/08/the_big_lie_abo.php" rel="nofollow">useful</a> article by someone who knows what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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