Democrats are clearly complicit in war crimes. They –vote– for the crimes. They –fund– the crimes. If you act in such a way as to help put these people in a position to continue their war crimes, say for example by, I don’t know, voting for them and giving them money… then what do you want to call it?

You want to call it an “outrageous charge” but then you next call Rosemarie an agent provocateur… nice.

Will your attorney friend vote for her anyways?

While I agree that amusement doesn’t enter in to the equation, the position of “it’s about oil” means many things.

Regarding bio fuels being any kind of answer, the amount of agricultural land needed to replace oil (not factoring in how much oil is needed for the agriculture itself) seems to indicate that it’s an impossible pipe dream if consumption were to continue at anything close to the present pace, much less get worse.

I think it’s a mistake to entirely blame third world countries for their agricultural circumstances when the US makes damn sure that they are in those circumstances through subsidized US agriculture being forced on markets whose peoples are at the mercy of proxy governments installed or controlled by the US and its empirical trade policies.

The best farmers in the world are having their seeds and crops destroyed directly and indirectly and saying that they need instruction manuals sounds like you’re telling them to eat cake. Suggesting that US corporate robbers growing gen mod bio-corn in slave states will be feeding people ignores or misunderstands history

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20370

But I think Cindy Sheehan won’t have time or the inclination to raise such admittedly fascinating speculations in her campaign in San Francisco for Pelosi’s seat in 2008.

And the primary factoid supporting my thought is: I know an attorney who works in San Francisco, and I emailed him Friday about yesterday’s anti-war rallies in San Francisco; he replied simply, “Cindy’s dreaming.”

It was very out of character for Rep. Stark to not only apologize but grovel and say he would go back to a well-deserved obscurity. Are they showing Congresspersons photos of Americas who have been spied on and arrested by NSA being tortured? Is that the NSA scandal that James Comey and the still operating FBI Chief threatened to resign over?

This issue of safety for our Congresspersons and even our Governors and the Don Siegalman case shows needs to be addressed now. These threats cannot continue, we have to express what we suspect and have some type of investigation - our votes are not going to be counted if we do not stop the intimidation of our Congress.

Free speech and good taste have never really quite lined up, there,
either on Main Street or in Congress, and, when all was said and done,
more was said THAN done, as is usually the case in Congress or
elsewhere.

MY opinion is different from Starks, not that anyone cares, but I’ll
share it ANYway. MY opinion is the same as Greenspans, namely
that the war is about OIL, not anyone’s amusement, but rather was
an oil war from the outset. My reasoning is underscored(in my little
world, anyway) by the recent UN statement talking about how
biofuel development and production would cause starvation. I think
that’s a crock. I think biofuels have GREAT potential to a) feed the
world sustainably by helping people to develop crops that have
dual purpose, as with grain, corn, or sugar, if you need to get somewhere you distill em, if you’re hungry, eat em, either way the
farming is good practice for doing both jobs. At SOME point, people
are going to have to get more proficient with the old local food
production. There’s a lot of different ways to get that done, the
simplest is hothouses, where you spend your water pretty frugally
maintaining a humidity level that’ll let your seeds jump up, and you
can use some of that oil or your recycled plastic to build em out of.
Any way you slice it, though, more countries are going to have to
get ‘happy’ with the ag production on their own behalf, and stop trying
to live off our grain exports or whatever, and the Big Global Hurdle
is going to be ocean desalinization, taking seawater, and cleaning it
up to where it’s suitable for human, animal, and general ag use. Murkuh
can’t do it all for everybody, the 21st century represents a lot of
change for everyone, we need to develop our biofuels, a lot of other
nations need to just plain develop, and stop waiting for UN/US handouts. Sometimes ‘help’ doesn’t, and instead of rockets and bombs
and promissory gimmebucks, maybe we need to send out literature
on farming, take notes from the best ag countries, bind it all up, call it
a ‘how to’ book, and distribute those instead. Make it all-inclusive,
multiple languages, and get a lot of people in a lot of different countries
involved in local self-sustaining farming initiatives. When people can
support themselves, then they can be independent and take care of
business on their own behalf and stuff. Doesn’t get much better than that, and if we can start producing our own energy, that’ll just help
things along.

For those who may be wondering…

You will never get anywhere if you make such outrageous charges against every person voting for Democrats. Do keep in mind that Pete Stark is a Democrat.

Then again, perhaps rosemarie is an agent provocateur, for whom such a charge is straight out of the playbook.

(and thank you Ms. Jackowski for your very brave comment!)

I hope Cindy kicks her when she’s down and says, “Nancy you are not my fucking constituent, get off my porch!

War games, video games, wars in foreign countries populated by people with strange sounding names. Why else would the American public support every war that the Bush Foggy Folks conjure up?

Props to the CodePink member who confronted Condoleeza waving bloody hands in her face! Next move : confront Pelosi the same way? Or Hillery first, Nasty Pelousi next?

CodePink wouldn’t be giving any Dumockrats a free ride while they focus exclu. on Bush Admin? Naaww, I’m just paranoid, shame on me.

Dave