Comments on: Even Overwhelming Majority Support Cannot Get Rep. Olver to Support Impeachment http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:41:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Ruth Rinehart http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-9196 Ruth Rinehart Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:24:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-9196 This statement by Ralph Nader is substantively different then the YouTube video clip that is on the 911truth.org site (http://www.911truth.org/). The video clip is dated October 11th, several days before this article is written. In the article above, Ralph Nader speculates: "Maybe the Democrats think that Bush and Cheney are such wild and crazy guys that a serious impeachment drive in Congress would provoke the two draft-dodgers to launch a military emergency, strike Iran or otherwise generate a crisis, based on their continual fulminations about the “war on terror,” that would engulf the Democrats and throw them on the defensive for 2008." BUT in the video clip, he reads from some source, indicating that these were the fears of Rep. Olver, and that was why he wouldn't support impeachment. Why this discrepancy?? This statement by Ralph Nader is substantively different then the YouTube video clip that is on the 911truth.org site (http://www.911truth.org/). The video clip is dated October 11th, several days before this article is written. In the article above, Ralph Nader speculates:
“Maybe the Democrats think that Bush and Cheney are such wild and crazy guys that a serious impeachment drive in Congress would provoke the two draft-dodgers to launch a military emergency, strike Iran or otherwise generate a crisis, based on their continual fulminations about the “war on terror,” that would engulf the Democrats and throw them on the defensive for 2008.”
BUT in the video clip, he reads from some source, indicating that these were the fears of Rep. Olver, and that was why he wouldn’t support impeachment.
Why this discrepancy??

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7413 gerald spezio Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:23:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7413 Shid Ralphie, I forgot that poor bumbling bureaucrat for servicing the powerful with a keen knowledge of the law, Alberto Gonzales, our Nation's chief lawyer and passionate law enforcement person. Here are a few other brilliant Attorney Generals filled with the sacred law and the manipulation thereof; John Mitchell, Esq. - lawyer Nixon's foul and criminal AG Mitchell was the supreme conspirator against the Republic for which he couldn't stand at all. Janet Reno, Esq. - Feminist lawyer and champion of false child abuse convictions as a sure-fire career route to Supernation's top lawyering job. Hilarious Clinton, Esq. loved Reno's witchcraft style so much that Hilarious took Reno to Washington as house lawyer. Reno turned the law and hellfire on those wayward Christians in Waco. William French Smith, Esq. - A slick legal whore in white shoes for whomever can come up with the money - plenty of money Beneath contempt and even below that. Griffen Bell Esq. - Jimmy Carter's gentleman forked tongue lawyer who "fixed things" with a very expensive Southern drawl. Griffen, a staunch Demo, turned up in Nicaraugua doing peeyar and lawyering for Reagan's cover-up of the Hassenfus fiasco. Ralphie, how could you not know that studying past Attorney Generals of Supernation is a study in the depths of human depravity? Shid Ralphie, I forgot that poor bumbling bureaucrat for servicing the powerful with a keen knowledge of the law, Alberto Gonzales, our Nation’s chief lawyer and passionate law enforcement person.

Here are a few other brilliant Attorney Generals filled with the sacred law and the manipulation thereof;

John Mitchell, Esq. - lawyer Nixon’s foul and criminal AG
Mitchell was the supreme conspirator against the Republic for which he couldn’t stand at all.

Janet Reno, Esq. - Feminist lawyer and champion of false child abuse convictions as a sure-fire career route to Supernation’s top lawyering job.
Hilarious Clinton, Esq. loved Reno’s witchcraft style so much that Hilarious took Reno to Washington as house lawyer.
Reno turned the law and hellfire on those wayward Christians in Waco.

William French Smith, Esq. - A slick legal whore in white shoes for whomever can come up with the money - plenty of money
Beneath contempt and even below that.

Griffen Bell Esq. - Jimmy Carter’s gentleman forked tongue lawyer who “fixed things” with a very expensive Southern drawl.
Griffen, a staunch Demo, turned up in Nicaraugua doing peeyar and lawyering for Reagan’s cover-up of the Hassenfus fiasco.

Ralphie, how could you not know that studying past Attorney Generals of Supernation is a study in the depths of human depravity?

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7411 gerald spezio Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:41:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7411 A recent piece at Counterpunch by Nader, who is himself a lawyer, asked with a straight face; "Where are the lawyers of America?" Nader can't understand why the lawyer-fixers of America don't fix things? Fix things "right" or is it left, that is. They have fixed things really to the right, and then some. Some wags say that the friggen lawyers are fixin everything real bad and real legal; but you would have to be a lawyer to tell, maybe? Ralphie baby, this government like every other government in Supernation is completely filled with trained lawyers. Every legislature in the country is filled with lawyers. Lawyers have a scam going called a "self-regulating profession," ( read monopoly ). The US Senate is composed of more than sixty per-cent lawyers on the take. Zionist Israelis have bought the lawyer boys and girls in the US Senate and Nancy Pelosi too. Lawyers committed to the rule of law in the US Senate love to vote for Senator Joe Lieberman's "Let's-have-More-Pre-Emptive -Murder- Soon" bills. Joe Lieberman, Hilarious Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, Puddy Guiliani, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Christopher Dodd, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Sam Brownback, ad nauseum are all trained lawyers. The majority of extra-legal murdering Zionist neo-cons are lawyers. 21 of the 23 Watergate crooks and conspirators were lawyers. Do you remember Nixon's vice-buffoon lawyer, Spiro Agnew, convicted of sucking up big bribes. Spiro was so stupid he became vice-president Scooter Libby and Jack Abramhoff were recently practicing effective and lucrative lobbying under cover of law. Ralphie for Chrissake kid - what country do you live at? A recent piece at Counterpunch by Nader, who is himself a lawyer, asked with a straight face; “Where are the lawyers of America?”

Nader can’t understand why the lawyer-fixers of America don’t fix things?

Fix things “right” or is it left, that is.

They have fixed things really to the right, and then some.

Some wags say that the friggen lawyers are fixin everything real bad and real legal; but you would have to be a lawyer to tell, maybe?

Ralphie baby, this government like every other government in Supernation is completely filled with trained lawyers.

Every legislature in the country is filled with lawyers.

Lawyers have a scam going called a “self-regulating profession,” ( read monopoly ).

The US Senate is composed of more than sixty per-cent lawyers on the take.

Zionist Israelis have bought the lawyer boys and girls in the US Senate and Nancy Pelosi too.

Lawyers committed to the rule of law in the US Senate love to vote for Senator Joe Lieberman’s “Let’s-have-More-Pre-Emptive -Murder- Soon” bills.

Joe Lieberman, Hilarious Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, Puddy Guiliani, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Christopher Dodd, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Sam Brownback, ad nauseum are all trained lawyers.

The majority of extra-legal murdering Zionist neo-cons are lawyers.

21 of the 23 Watergate crooks and conspirators were lawyers.

Do you remember Nixon’s vice-buffoon lawyer, Spiro Agnew, convicted of sucking up big bribes.
Spiro was so stupid he became vice-president

Scooter Libby and Jack Abramhoff were recently practicing effective and lucrative lobbying under cover of law.

Ralphie for Chrissake kid - what country do you live at?

]]> By: greybeard http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7410 greybeard Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:23:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/even-overwhelming-majority-support-cannot-get-rep-olver-to-support-impeachment/#comment-7410 Is any further proof necessary that the Democrats as well as the Republicans are taking their instructions from some one other than the people who elected them? At least since Clinton capitulated to money interests with NAFTA (perhaps earleir), there has been very little difference bgetween the twin parties, and no substantial difference. No, a Democrat might not have waged war with Iraq, but our militarism would have still been evident. The American people can still reclaim their government, if they so choose, but the elements are in place for a non-violent take-over, while the nation sleeps. Is any further proof necessary that the Democrats as well as the Republicans are taking their instructions from some one other than the people who elected them? At least since Clinton capitulated to money interests with NAFTA (perhaps earleir), there has been very little difference bgetween the twin parties, and no substantial difference. No, a Democrat might not have waged war with Iraq, but our militarism would have still been evident. The American people can still reclaim their government, if they so choose, but the elements are in place for a non-violent take-over, while the nation sleeps.

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