Comments on: Behind Enemy Lines http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:35:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Moji Agha http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8325 Moji Agha Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:42:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8325 Thank you Carl for your EXCELLENT report above. I had the pleasure of going to Iran with Carl, Jes, Leslie, and others, as the group's "cultural translator." But, I am "very sad" ;-) to have found a "huge" ;-) error in Carl's otherwise excellent narrative. He states--in "shoking error" ;-) : "Iran is a place of deep cultural roots and history. Persepolis, Esfahan’s splendid mosques, and the ancient bridges of Shiraz, are world treasures, to be preserved. These and the splendid people we met must be spared the savage warfare witnessed in Iraq." What? Shiraz's ancient bridges?! -- not Esfahan's ?! ;-) Peace, Moji Agha P.S.: What a sad excuse for human thought the words of this "Jaimie" character seems to be! His comments above give a good name to the word "ignorant." Thank you Carl for your EXCELLENT report above.

I had the pleasure of going to Iran with Carl, Jes, Leslie, and others, as the group’s “cultural translator.”

But, I am “very sad” ;-) to have found a “huge” ;-) error in Carl’s otherwise excellent narrative.

He states–in “shoking error” ;-) :

“Iran is a place of deep cultural roots and history. Persepolis, Esfahan’s splendid mosques, and the ancient bridges of Shiraz, are world treasures, to be preserved. These and the splendid people we met must be spared the savage warfare witnessed in Iraq.”

What? Shiraz’s ancient bridges?! — not Esfahan’s ?! ;-)

Peace,

Moji Agha

P.S.:
What a sad excuse for human thought the words of this “Jaimie” character seems to be! His comments above give a good name to the word “ignorant.”

]]> By: Jes Richardson http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8257 Jes Richardson Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:49:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8257 Leslie and I went to Iran with Carl. We are becoming increasingly frustrated and alarmed by the Bush Administration's preparation for a military attack on this nation of children (70% of the population is under the age of 30). Diplomacy is not, and never has been, on the Bush Administration's table. This leaves war as the only option and we are concerned not only for the people of Iran, but also for the people of the United States and our soldiers abroad. Iran has not attacked another nation in over 200 years and does not pose a threat to the United States. If we attack them, however, they will fight "to the last drop of Iranian blood". Thank you for the great article Carl. Reader: Please write or call your Congressperson TODAY and tell them you don't want the United States to launch a military strike against Iran. Leslie and I went to Iran with Carl. We are becoming increasingly frustrated and alarmed by the Bush Administration’s preparation for a military attack on this nation of children (70% of the population is under the age of 30). Diplomacy is not, and never has been, on the Bush Administration’s table. This leaves war as the only option and we are concerned not only for the people of Iran, but also for the people of the United States and our soldiers abroad. Iran has not attacked another nation in over 200 years and does not pose a threat to the United States. If we attack them, however, they will fight “to the last drop of Iranian blood”.

Thank you for the great article Carl.
Reader: Please write or call your Congressperson TODAY and tell them you don’t want the United States to launch a military strike against Iran.

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8043 Mike McNiven Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:13:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-8043 A travel report as experienced by Che Guevara's children: http://domino.ips.org/ips/eng.NSF/vwWEBMainView?SearchView&Query=%28kimia+sanati%29++and+Y%2E2007x+and+M%2E10x+and+D%2E03x&SearchMax=100&SearchOrder=3 A travel report as experienced by Che Guevara’s children:

http://domino.ips.org/ips/eng.NSF/vwWEBMainView?SearchView&Query=%28kimia+sanati%29++and+Y%2E2007x+and+M%2E10x+and+D%2E03x&SearchMax=100&SearchOrder=3

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7238 Lloyd Rowsey Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:47:32 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7238 Thank you, Carl Doener. The little boy in me says, "Try Cuba." The man knows how goddam close the Chipmunk is to giving the word to that naval group. And there's a record for the cute, little fellow -- bringing it closer to The End than anyone since JFK and Khrushev. Or an epitaph for us all. Thank you, Carl Doener. The little boy in me says, “Try Cuba.” The man knows how goddam close the Chipmunk is to giving the word to that naval group.

And there’s a record for the cute, little fellow — bringing it closer to The End than anyone since JFK and Khrushev. Or an epitaph for us all.

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7225 jaime Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:02:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7225 I hate to disappoint anyone, but I'm not THE LOBBY. Just a lowly, Male-only steam bath attendant from New Jersey...You want towels? That we can do. A massage? That can be arranged. A country invaded and its indigenous inhabitants usurped in a racist genocidal process after their banking industry was rendered moot? (Just like the Jews did to Vanuatu see David Icke for details) That could take some work. Thanks Gerald and Norm, I suppose this is the year-old referred to: Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers 07.28.2006 | The Times From Yonit Farago in Jerusalem WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet. Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.... I hate to disappoint anyone, but I’m not THE LOBBY. Just a lowly, Male-only steam bath attendant from New Jersey…You want towels? That we can do. A massage? That can be arranged.

A country invaded and its indigenous inhabitants usurped in a racist genocidal process after their banking industry was rendered moot? (Just like the Jews did to Vanuatu see David Icke for details) That could take some work.

Thanks Gerald and Norm, I suppose this is the year-old referred to:

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers

07.28.2006 | The Times
From Yonit Farago in Jerusalem

WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet.

Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages….

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7219 gerald spezio Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:53:09 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7219 Where struggling jaime may get most of his programmed droppings; http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=344 Where struggling jaime may get most of his programmed droppings;
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=344

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7201 jaime Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:49:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7201 Deadbeat wrote: "Even as little as 10 years ago one could not openly critique Zionism." Horsefeathers!! But even if it wasn't, you're free here to criticize Zionism all you want AND you can kiss Ahmadinehad's ass as much as you want too! Deadbeat wrote:

“Even as little as 10 years ago one could not openly critique Zionism.”

Horsefeathers!!
But even if it wasn’t, you’re free here to criticize Zionism all you want AND you can kiss Ahmadinehad’s ass as much as you want too!

]]> By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7200 Deadbeat Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:58:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7200 Jaime's presence in this forum show how far the dialog has come over the past two decades. Even as little as 10 years ago one could not openly critique Zionism. The more people speak out against Zionism as well as racism perhaps citizen will be inspired to finish the unfinished business of the Civil Right movement for the eradication of all forms of racism. Jaime’s presence in this forum show how far the dialog has come over the past two decades. Even as little as 10 years ago one could not openly critique Zionism. The more people speak out against Zionism as well as racism perhaps citizen will be inspired to finish the unfinished business of the Civil Right movement for the eradication of all forms of racism.

]]> By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7199 Deadbeat Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:55:33 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7199 <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh10012007.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh10012007.html</a> Zionist love to call the kettle "black". All nations need for their citizens to struggle to improve conditions. Iran is no different. But it is hypocritical for Zionist to make such claims when Israel has invaded, disrupted and destroyed nations. These internal protest are good to see citizens struggle to improve their conditions however to used those image as an excuse to distort and to encourage citizens of the United States to destroy another nation is reprehensible. Yet you will still find members on the "left" who will ignore the racist poison of Zionism and assure folks that it is all about "oil". http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh10012007.html

Zionist love to call the kettle “black”. All nations need for their citizens to struggle to improve conditions. Iran is no different. But it is hypocritical for Zionist to make such claims when Israel has invaded, disrupted and destroyed nations. These internal protest are good to see citizens struggle to improve their conditions however to used those image as an excuse to distort and to encourage citizens of the United States to destroy another nation is reprehensible. Yet you will still find members on the “left” who will ignore the racist poison of Zionism and assure folks that it is all about “oil”.

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7197 jaime Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:23:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7197 Thank you Mike. And here's another U-Tube which I'd like to dedicate to JE, Shabnam, and Gerald. For the struggle for peace, social justice....tolerance and understanding between people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp0hCxSg98 Oh and Shabnam, Israel's unspeakable crimes not only apply to Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Africa, Central America and Somalia... You missed: Mali, Mauritania, Albania, Lichtenstein, The Republic of Togo, Fiji and Vanuatu. Thank you Mike.

And here’s another U-Tube which I’d like to dedicate to JE, Shabnam, and Gerald. For the struggle for peace, social justice….tolerance and understanding between people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp0hCxSg98

Oh and Shabnam, Israel’s unspeakable crimes not only apply to Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Africa, Central America and Somalia…

You missed: Mali, Mauritania, Albania, Lichtenstein, The Republic of Togo, Fiji and Vanuatu.

]]> By: JE http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7194 JE Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:54:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7194 "President Ahmadinejad’s 2006 International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust, giving a forum to both Jews hostile to Zionism and outright Holocaust deniers, was indefensible" According to whom? The Holocaust Industry? “President Ahmadinejad’s 2006 International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust, giving a forum to both Jews hostile to Zionism and outright Holocaust deniers, was indefensible”

According to whom? The Holocaust Industry?

]]> By: eileen fleming http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7193 eileen fleming Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:42:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7193 Vanunu is NOT a scientist! He was a mid-level tech in Israel's WMD Program 21 year ago and he told this civilian journalist: "The Dimona is 46 years old; reactors last 25 to 30 years. The Dimona has never been inspected and Israel has never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty but all the Arab states have...Twenty years ago when I worked there they only produced when the air was blowing towards Jordan ten miles away. No one knows what is happening now. "The Israelis have 200 atomic weapons and they accuse the Palestinians and Muslims of terrorism. The world needs to wake up and see the real terrorism is the occupation and the Palestinians have lived under that terror regime for 40 years... "It's very sad that Hilary Clinton went to the Jewish Wailing Wall and forgot the real crying wall is the Palestinian wall...the apartheid wall... the wall is not for defense, but to keep this conflict permanent... "Israel is only a democracy if you are a Jew." Vanunu says all that and more in "30 Minutes with Vanunu" FREELY streaming on WAWA: http://www.wearewideawake.org/ Vanunu is NOT a scientist! He was a mid-level tech in Israel’s WMD Program 21 year ago and he told this civilian journalist:

“The Dimona is 46 years old; reactors last 25 to 30 years. The Dimona has never been inspected and Israel has never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty but all the Arab states have…Twenty years ago when I worked there they only produced when the air was blowing towards Jordan ten miles away. No one knows what is happening now.

“The Israelis have 200 atomic weapons and they accuse the Palestinians and Muslims of terrorism. The world needs to wake up and see the real terrorism is the occupation and the Palestinians have lived under that terror regime for 40 years…

“It’s very sad that Hilary Clinton went to the Jewish Wailing Wall and forgot the real crying wall is the Palestinian wall…the apartheid wall… the wall is not for defense, but to keep this conflict permanent…

“Israel is only a democracy if you are a Jew.”

Vanunu says all that and more in “30 Minutes with Vanunu” FREELY streaming on WAWA:

http://www.wearewideawake.org/

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7192 Mike McNiven Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:04:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7192 The latest report from Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llRwmV04r04&NR=1 The latest report from Iran:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llRwmV04r04&NR=1

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7191 Mike McNiven Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:03:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7191 Other reports from the travelers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llRwmV04r04&NR=1 http://www.searchles.com/channels/show/1344 Other reports from the travelers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llRwmV04r04&NR=1
http://www.searchles.com/channels/show/1344

]]> By: Mike McNiven http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7189 Mike McNiven Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:45:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7189 Other reports from the travelers to Iran: http://www.searchles.com/channels/show/1344 Other reports from the travelers to Iran:
http://www.searchles.com/channels/show/1344

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7186 jaime Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:46:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7186 Well then I sincerely expect to see both of you on Thursday. I'll save you some towels. Cheers, J. US Iran Friendship Day Celebrating Iran’s Nuclear Technology Thursday Oct. 11th 9:00 Pm Hope Steam Baths 163 Hope Ave., Passaic, NJ. No Drugs - No Weapons - No Women - No Jews Contact: Jaime Antecol Queers for Ahmadinejad P.O. Box 420 Somerville, NJ 08876 ph: 973-792-3000 jantecol@yahoo.com Well then I sincerely expect to see both of you on Thursday.
I’ll save you some towels.
Cheers,
J.

US Iran Friendship Day Celebrating Iran’s Nuclear Technology
Thursday Oct. 11th 9:00 Pm
Hope Steam Baths
163 Hope Ave., Passaic, NJ.

No Drugs - No Weapons - No Women - No Jews

Contact:

Jaime Antecol
Queers for Ahmadinejad
P.O. Box 420
Somerville, NJ 08876
ph: 973-792-3000
jantecol@yahoo.com

]]> By: Shabnam http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7185 Shabnam Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:42:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7185 The Zionists are so desperate for preservation of their apartheid system on the stolen land of Palestine where have committed so many war crimes in the region and beyond including Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Africa, Central America, Somalia ………. In close cooperation with American in destruction of Iraq where have committed genocide, more than 1.2 million death in Iraq alone, rape and torture, including Abu Gharib which has bought the condemnation of the international community for generations to come. Yet have no shame to continue their campaign of lies and deceptions to keep the ignorant people as they are through the Zionist mass media to wage yet another Zionist War. I must warn the Zionists that the Jinee is out and will not going to be silent. You have been exposed long time ago. The International Community is against another Zionist war. http://www.ebratha.blogfa.com/post-2.aspx The Zionists are so desperate for preservation of their apartheid system on the stolen land of Palestine where have committed so many war crimes in the region and beyond including Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Africa, Central America, Somalia ………. In close cooperation with American in destruction of Iraq where have committed genocide, more than 1.2 million death in Iraq alone, rape and torture, including Abu Gharib which has bought the condemnation of the international community for generations to come. Yet have no shame to continue their campaign of lies and deceptions to keep the ignorant people as they are through the Zionist mass media to wage yet another Zionist War. I must warn the Zionists that the Jinee is out and will not going to be silent.
You have been exposed long time ago. The International Community is against another Zionist war.

http://www.ebratha.blogfa.com/post-2.aspx

]]> By: H. Dune http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7183 H. Dune Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:23:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7183 It's so abundantly clear how important propaganda is for a rogue nation to march its citizens into agressive war. How can American citizens make informed decisions about anything when the mainstream media fails to point out obvious lies and mischaracterizations from this administration? All the lies that got this nation into the Iraq tragedy is all but lost with mainstream media. You would think they would be more skeptical and ask tough questions of this administration before taking us into yet another disaster. They just seem to believe whatever comes out of Bush's mouth. Your description of your visit to Iran should be read on all the national news broadcasts. To think that we may be destroying that country in the near future is very depressing indeed. I wish Bush would be stopped, but I don't see anyone or anything getting in his way. It’s so abundantly clear how important propaganda is for a rogue nation to march its citizens into agressive war. How can American citizens make informed decisions about anything when the mainstream media fails to point out obvious lies and mischaracterizations from this administration? All the lies that got this nation into the Iraq tragedy is all but lost with mainstream media. You would think they would be more skeptical and ask tough questions of this administration before taking us into yet another disaster. They just seem to believe whatever comes out of Bush’s mouth. Your description of your visit to Iran should be read on all the national news broadcasts. To think that we may be destroying that country in the near future is very depressing indeed. I wish Bush would be stopped, but I don’t see anyone or anything getting in his way.

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7182 gerald spezio Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:08:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7182 I think that Jaime is a computer program on meth. I think that Jaime is a computer program on meth.

]]> By: jaime http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7180 jaime Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:01:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/10/behind-enemy-lines/#comment-7180 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2151798,00.html Iran hangs 30 over 'US plots' Surge in public executions is a push to silence political activists, say critics Robert Tait in Tehran Sunday August 19, 2007 Iran has hanged up to 30 people in the past month amid a clampdown prompted by alleged US-backed plots to topple the regime, The Observer can reveal. Many executions have been carried out in public in an apparent bid to create a climate of intimidation while sending out uncompromising signals to the West. Opposition sources say at least three of the dead were political activists, contradicting government insistence that it is targeting 'thugs' and dangerous criminals. The executions have coincided with a crackdown on student activists and academics accused of trying to foment a 'soft revolution' with US support. ...The most high-profile recent executions involved Majid Kavousifar, 28, and his nephew, Hossein Kavousifar, 24, hanged for the murder of a hardline judge, Hassan Moghaddas, a man notorious for jailing political dissidents. They were hanged from cranes and hoisted high above one of Tehran's busiest thoroughfares. ...International gay rights campaigners have also said that homosexual men were among the executed. Homosexuality is a capital offence in Iran, along with adultery, espionage, armed robbery, drug trafficking and apostasy. Iran has long been one of the world's most prolific exponents of the death penalty and ranks second only to China in the number of executions. Human rights groups say it has the world's worst record for executions for crimes committed when the defendant was under 18... http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2151798,00.html

Iran hangs 30 over ‘US plots’

Surge in public executions is a push to silence political activists, say critics

Robert Tait in Tehran
Sunday August 19, 2007

Iran has hanged up to 30 people in the past month amid a clampdown prompted by alleged US-backed plots to topple the regime, The Observer can reveal.

Many executions have been carried out in public in an apparent bid to create a climate of intimidation while sending out uncompromising signals to the West. Opposition sources say at least three of the dead were political activists, contradicting government insistence that it is targeting ‘thugs’ and dangerous criminals. The executions have coincided with a crackdown on student activists and academics accused of trying to foment a ’soft revolution’ with US support.

…The most high-profile recent executions involved Majid Kavousifar, 28, and his nephew, Hossein Kavousifar, 24, hanged for the murder of a hardline judge, Hassan Moghaddas, a man notorious for jailing political dissidents. They were hanged from cranes and hoisted high above one of Tehran’s busiest thoroughfares.

…International gay rights campaigners have also said that homosexual men were among the executed. Homosexuality is a capital offence in Iran, along with adultery, espionage, armed robbery, drug trafficking and apostasy.

Iran has long been one of the world’s most prolific exponents of the death penalty and ranks second only to China in the number of executions. Human rights groups say it has the world’s worst record for executions for crimes committed when the defendant was under 18…

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