Comments on: The 25th Anniversary of the Massacre at Sabra-Shatilla http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:33:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: William Cendak II http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-13204 William Cendak II Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:02:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-13204 Have a look for yourself: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wjcendak/sets/72157603600759277/ Have a look for yourself:
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]]> By: William Cendak II http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-13203 William Cendak II Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:01:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-13203 I recently spent 2 days in Sabra- Shatila, I was appalled by the conditions these people are forced to live in. I met with people, sat in their homes and broke bread with them. I was able to understand why there is a hatred for Israel, the US and Britain. To hear the stories from the people who lived it, who ran in fear as their family members were shot down or beaten to death. To see with my own eyes the atrocities committed, but to see generations of people displaced and stuck in the middle of Lebanon's own problems, civil war, Israeli occupation, and religious differences. We as people need to look out for people less fortunate than ourselves. I recently spent 2 days in Sabra- Shatila, I was appalled by the conditions these people are forced to live in.
I met with people, sat in their homes and broke bread with them. I was able to understand why there is a hatred for Israel, the US and Britain. To hear the stories from the people who lived it, who ran in fear as their family members were shot down or beaten to death. To see with my own eyes the atrocities committed, but to see generations of people displaced and stuck in the middle of Lebanon’s own problems, civil war, Israeli occupation, and religious differences.
We as people need to look out for people less fortunate than ourselves.

]]> By: David Inabinet http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6590 David Inabinet Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:43:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6590 That is right of curse about violence. But violence does beget violence and occupation will most surelly beget resistance. It is terrible that those lives were lost at the American Embassy on April 18, 1982. Unfortunately the US government made the Embassy a legitimate target for those resisting the US supported, funded, and armed Israeli invasion and occupation. The US government stripped the Embassy on its diplomatic immunity by hosting meeting of the CIA which was planning operations against the Lebanese Resistance. The CIA helped find targets for the Shelling of the USS New Jersey and planned assassinations from the Embassy as former CIA operative Barr admitted in his revealing book. The same with the UN Marine Barracks. Their motto was "They came in Peace". That may be true or not. But what is perfectly clear is that when they joined the Israelis and the Phalangists they moved from peacekeepers to belligerents taking one side. They immediately became legitimate 'targets of opportunlity" to use Donald Rumsfeld term. Neither the Embassy nor the Marines attack were terrorism. They were both legitimate resistance operations supported by principles of international law. One country must be cautious when it involves itself in another country and takes sides. That is right of curse about violence. But violence does beget violence and occupation will most surelly beget resistance.
It is terrible that those lives were lost at the American Embassy on April 18, 1982.
Unfortunately the US government made the Embassy a legitimate target for those resisting the US supported, funded, and armed Israeli invasion and occupation. The US government stripped the Embassy on its diplomatic immunity by hosting meeting of the CIA which was planning operations against the Lebanese Resistance. The CIA helped find targets for the Shelling of the USS New Jersey and planned assassinations from the Embassy as former CIA operative Barr admitted in his revealing book.

The same with the UN Marine Barracks. Their motto was “They came in Peace”. That may be true or not. But what is perfectly clear is that when they joined the Israelis and the Phalangists they moved from peacekeepers to belligerents taking one side. They immediately became legitimate ‘targets of opportunlity” to use Donald Rumsfeld term.
Neither the Embassy nor the Marines attack were terrorism. They were both legitimate resistance operations supported by principles of international law. One country must be cautious when it involves itself in another country and takes sides.

]]> By: Margaret E. Powell http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6577 Margaret E. Powell Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:55:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6577 I am related to Mary Lee McIntyre and the late Bill McIntyre who perished in the Beirut bombing of April 18th 1983. I flew to Beirut immediately after the Embassy bombing and spend some time helping Mary Lee recover from serious injuries. I wrote a book about my experience there: "Practicing Forgiveness: Aftermath of the First Suicide Bombing of an American Target." It was and is my hope that in perhaps small ways we can add our voices to the larger discussion and a world consciousness that will not tolerate violence. I am related to Mary Lee McIntyre and the late Bill McIntyre who perished in the Beirut bombing of April 18th 1983. I flew to Beirut immediately after the Embassy bombing and spend some time helping Mary Lee recover from serious injuries. I wrote a book about my experience there: “Practicing Forgiveness: Aftermath of the First Suicide Bombing of an American Target.” It was and is my hope that in perhaps small ways we can add our voices to the larger discussion and a world consciousness that will not tolerate violence.

]]> By: Danny D http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6051 Danny D Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:52:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-6051 I would agree fully with what you have said sandra. I would add what is wrong with North American Media, I don't know how people who report the news here can sleep at night knowing that they have not told the truth or even the whole story. The North American Media makes me sick. Thank God for the internet where sites like this tell the story! I would agree fully with what you have said sandra. I would add what is wrong with North American Media, I don’t know how people who report the news here can sleep at night knowing that they have not told the truth or even the whole story. The North American Media makes me sick. Thank God for the internet where sites like this tell the story!

]]> By: Eileen Fleming http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5910 Eileen Fleming Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:02:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5910 Last weekend I attended the U.S. Campaign's End the Israeli Occupation of Palestine 6th annual conference. Among the many justice and peace activists I met, was Keren Batiyov, a poet, writer and justice and beautiful Jewish woman. She "wrote this poem prayer several years ago during Rosh Hashanah with Yom Kippur in mind…In Judaism, during the 8 days of Rosh Hashanah, Jews are supposed to examine their behavior over the past year and go to all those they have wronged and seek forgiveness because on Yom Kippur, we can ask God to forgive us only if we have first sought the forgiveness of those we have wronged." I posted Keren's poem to precede Franklin Lamb's critique on my Sept. 15th blog, and offer it here: T’shuvah* For A Nation God forgive us for hostility toward those we perceive to be not like ourselves; for judging the powerless contemptible— though it was we who rendered them so; for believing that we are better, more deserving, and even entitled, because our own suffering has been so great. God forgive us for turning our pain into a grisly weapon with which we torment others; for perpetuating the poisonous cycle— from abused to abuser; for despising the stranger, the refugee, the homeless— for forgetting that we have been all of these. God forgive us for the thousands we have displaced and discounted; for the land we have confiscated and the homes we have demolished; for the trees we have uprooted, and the water withheld; for the hearts, and bones, and promises we have broken; for the hatred we have engendered. God forgive us for invoking your name to justify revenge and ethnic cleansing; for citing Security to legitimize murder and torture; for exploiting the Holocaust to defend doing to others what has been done to us. God forgive us for the blinders we so carefully fabricate to hide our eyes from the humanity of the people we call enemy; the same whom history records as kin. God forgive us for euphemisms, Orwellian doublespeak, and outright lies; for hiring high-powered firms to sell myths of innocence and righteousness; for seeking a face lift for our image instead of atonement for our soul. May God forgive us. May those we have so terribly wronged forgive us. *Repentance ©Keren Batiyov Last weekend I attended the U.S. Campaign’s End the Israeli Occupation of Palestine 6th annual conference.

Among the many justice and peace activists I met, was Keren Batiyov, a poet, writer and justice and beautiful Jewish woman.

She “wrote this poem prayer several years ago during Rosh Hashanah with Yom Kippur in mind…In Judaism, during the 8 days of Rosh Hashanah, Jews are supposed to examine their behavior over the past year and go to all those they have wronged and seek forgiveness because on Yom Kippur, we can ask God to forgive us only if we have first sought the forgiveness of those we have wronged.”

I posted Keren’s poem to precede Franklin Lamb’s critique on my Sept. 15th blog, and offer it here:

T’shuvah* For A Nation

God forgive us
for hostility toward those we perceive
to be not like ourselves;
for judging the powerless contemptible—
though it was we who rendered them so;
for believing that we are better, more deserving,
and even entitled, because our own suffering has been so great.

God forgive us
for turning our pain into a grisly weapon
with which we torment others;
for perpetuating the poisonous cycle—
from abused to abuser;
for despising the stranger, the refugee, the homeless—
for forgetting that we have been all of these.

God forgive us
for the thousands we have displaced and discounted;
for the land we have confiscated
and the homes we have demolished;
for the trees we have uprooted, and the water withheld;
for the hearts, and bones, and promises we have broken;
for the hatred we have engendered.

God forgive us
for invoking your name to justify revenge
and ethnic cleansing;
for citing Security to legitimize murder and torture;
for exploiting the Holocaust to defend doing to others
what has been done to us.

God forgive us
for the blinders we so carefully fabricate
to hide our eyes
from the humanity of the people we call enemy;
the same whom history records as kin.

God forgive us
for euphemisms, Orwellian doublespeak, and outright lies;
for hiring high-powered firms to sell myths
of innocence and righteousness;
for seeking a face lift for our image
instead of atonement for our soul.

May God forgive us.
May those we have so terribly wronged
forgive us.

*Repentance

©Keren Batiyov

]]> By: sadie http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5864 sadie Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:57:00 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5864 I remember. I remember.

]]> By: Mary Lee McIntyre http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5827 Mary Lee McIntyre Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:28:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5827 I am the widow of Bill McIntyre. We were both in the attack on our Embassy that day in April. I was told when I arrived at the Embassy moments before the attack that my husband was in the cafeteria giving a deep background interview to a Newsweek stringer, Janet Stevens. That was all I knew. Both perished that day. I had arrived from having taught some classes to discuss the week's events with my husband as they were unfolding at the time. I never saw him because moments later we were picking ourselves up from the fourth floor offices from the explosion. Later we found out that Hezbollah, funded by the Iranians, was responsible for the bombing. It has been heart breaking for our family, our children, and the families of others similarly bereaved from that day forward. We were sustained by our families, our friends, colleagues, and our faith. It still was so unnecessary to lose that many good people who honestly were trying to do some good in Lebanon at the time. Yes, I remember the Sabra and Shatilla atrocities in 1982, and we all felt outrage against the attackers and for the Palestinians who had the misfortune to be there at the time. Sharon and the Christian militias together were the perpetrators of those crimes. Living together in peace in the Middle East is difficult when extreme aims of control get in the way. May we all learn to live in peace some day. I am the widow of Bill McIntyre. We were both in the attack on our Embassy that day in April. I was told when I arrived at the Embassy moments before the attack that my husband was in the cafeteria giving a deep background interview to a Newsweek stringer, Janet Stevens. That was all I knew. Both perished that day. I had arrived from having taught some classes to discuss the week’s events with my husband as they were unfolding at the time. I never saw him because moments later we were picking ourselves up from the fourth floor offices from the explosion. Later we found out that Hezbollah, funded by the Iranians, was responsible for the bombing. It has been heart breaking for our family, our children, and the families of others similarly bereaved from that day forward. We were sustained by our families, our friends, colleagues, and our faith. It still was so unnecessary to lose that many good people who honestly were trying to do some good in Lebanon at the time. Yes, I remember the Sabra and Shatilla atrocities in 1982, and we all felt outrage against the attackers and for the Palestinians who had the misfortune to be there at the time. Sharon and the Christian militias together were the perpetrators of those crimes. Living together in peace in the Middle East is difficult when extreme aims of control get in the way. May we all learn to live in peace some day.

]]> By: Jonny Kolb http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5822 Jonny Kolb Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:29:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5822 I'll follow Lamb to hell if that is what it takes to achieve Justice for the Palestnhians! He is one amazing son of a bitch. I have read his stuff and believe he can liberate Palestine!!!!!!!!! I’ll follow Lamb to hell if that is what it takes to achieve Justice for the Palestnhians! He is one amazing son of a bitch. I have read his stuff and believe he can liberate Palestine!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5805 Mulga Mumblebrain Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:47:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5805 When one contemplates the ghastly truth of the greatest of very many acts of Israeli racist murderousness, dismissed at the time by arch-racist and Jewish supremacist Menachem Begin as 'Goyim kill goyim, and still they blame the Jews', it is best to temper our outrage and remember Israelis are still human beings. Like all peoples, some are saints, some monsters. The worst monsters are the hasbara-nicks who deny or exculpate every Israeli crime, placing themselves in moral perdition. But many Israelis see their state for the pariah it is. The people of the world, by and large recognise who is good and who is evil in the ghastly, endless colonial project, but as most people are decent, they do not wish Israel's destruction. They merely demand that Israel ceases its relentless racist policies, its psychopathic cruelty and dishonourable hypocrisy. Unfortunately the Israelis have forged a folie a deux with the most ruthless, murderous and demented power in history, the United States. These two have caused between them, in just the last few decades, at least one thousand times as many tragedies and abominations as were visited on Sabra and Shatilla, and their blood-lust shows no sign of being slaked, ever. When one contemplates the ghastly truth of the greatest of very many acts of Israeli racist murderousness, dismissed at the time by arch-racist and Jewish supremacist Menachem Begin as ‘Goyim kill goyim, and still they blame the Jews’, it is best to temper our outrage and remember Israelis are still human beings. Like all peoples, some are saints, some monsters. The worst monsters are the hasbara-nicks who deny or exculpate every Israeli crime, placing themselves in moral perdition. But many Israelis see their state for the pariah it is. The people of the world, by and large recognise who is good and who is evil in the ghastly, endless colonial project, but as most people are decent, they do not wish Israel’s destruction. They merely demand that Israel ceases its relentless racist policies, its psychopathic cruelty and dishonourable hypocrisy. Unfortunately the Israelis have forged a folie a deux with the most ruthless, murderous and demented power in history, the United States. These two have caused between them, in just the last few decades, at least one thousand times as many tragedies and abominations as were visited on Sabra and Shatilla, and their blood-lust shows no sign of being slaked, ever.

]]> By: sandra n http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5796 sandra n Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:22:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5796 I remember..and shed tears and find myself still angry that the world did not seem to care that this horrific event could take place nor does it seem to care now. Why is that those who perished in another horiffic event known as 9/11 seem to have more value? There is something so wrong in how we decide who has value as a human being and who does not. Maybe just maybe someday it will not be that way... God willing. I remember..and shed tears and find myself still angry that the world did not seem to care that this horrific event could take place nor does it seem to care now. Why is that those who perished in another horiffic event known as 9/11 seem to have more value? There is something so wrong in how we decide who has value as a human being and who does not. Maybe just maybe someday it will not be that way… God willing.

]]> By: JDonohue http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5795 JDonohue Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:57:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5795 Thanks for telling the truth. I believe most Americans don't really care unless it's somehow connected to a celebrity ect. Living in USA like the man said is a total living zombie nightmare, it doesn't really have to do with liberal or conservative- hard to describe but the people more and more are afraid and crven so naturally they would shut their blinds to the atrocities over there. I was homeless too and many or most Americans were pretty crap people. I am out of it but the efect never wears off. The goal is now to get over them or get by. I don't think many of them are really informed of life other than the controlled media. Unfotunately too the doogooder types are so politically correct they fail to see the problems standing right before them. The bombs sold to Isreal inflicted homelessness of the Lebanese and excerbated the Palestinian prejudice, so to the rulers of USA it was a great success. Homelessness is a very common thing hear. YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL WE GAVE IT TO YOU...... See these people are so dark that they hate light. The citizens are like children, and many are full of murder hates which explains that all the popular TV shows are about killers and missing people. Truly many in the USA are missing souls so it's no wonder they send off their children to be heroes, hahaha. Thanks for telling the truth. I believe most Americans don’t really care unless it’s somehow connected to a celebrity ect. Living in USA like the man said is a total living zombie nightmare, it doesn’t really have to do with liberal or conservative- hard to describe but the people more and more are afraid and crven so naturally they would shut their blinds to the atrocities over there.
I was homeless too and many or most Americans were pretty crap people.
I am out of it but the efect never wears off. The goal is now to get over them or get by. I don’t think many of them are really informed of life other than the controlled media. Unfotunately too the doogooder types are so politically correct they fail to see the problems standing right before them.
The bombs sold to Isreal inflicted homelessness of the Lebanese and excerbated the Palestinian prejudice, so to the rulers of USA it was a great success. Homelessness is a very common thing hear.
YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL WE GAVE IT TO YOU……

See these people are so dark that they hate light.

The citizens are like children, and many are full of murder hates which explains that all the popular TV shows are about killers and missing people. Truly many in the USA are missing souls so it’s no wonder they send off their children to be heroes, hahaha.

]]> By: sk http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5794 sk Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:43:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5794 TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!

]]> By: David M. http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5787 David M. Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:28:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5787 Hi! My name is David M. And unfortunately, well, I live in the worse hell hole there is on the face of the whole world. It's called The USA. the worse nation in history almost. You guessed it. Myself, I'm a former US Marine soldier and my father, an officer under General George Patten in WW2. Me? To tell you the exact truth? I'm a homeless US military, both sets of parents now deceased, my sisters wouldn't talked to me anymore, and sometime ago, my girlfriend, while went out drunk, was laying down on the street somewheres and then a serial killer came by, slit her drunk throat, and then proceeded to rape her dead body. Yes, there are alot of sick people and demented people in other parts of the world out there somewheres. Just don't forget, we have the worst of them here in America. And not to mention that we have a mass murderer, baby killer in the White House, who sends out recruits to fight his war for oil profits. I just can't help though, always pondering what is going on around the world I'm in, especially in the worst nation in history, no doubt. Pondering and wondering when can I finally pack my bags and leave this country and just leave these dumb ignoramous people of America, the rich in this country, who take so much advantage of the poor's blood spilled for this country. Sometimes I wonder that if I'm really thinking serial killer thoughts or can I just leave them to their doom because they ((The filthy and shameless rich of this country)) to their doom because they don't want to help the poor and needy in this country? I'm an ex-soldier and I see alot of things going on in this country, especially alot of dirty cops on the take. Makes me wonder of some of you US veterans out there in this world would think and wonder, "Should you just pack up your bags and just leave them to their doom, and get what they deserve"? Amazing heh? This world is so violent, if only someone would just push that button of Nuke, thank God, the pain an misery of some of us would just go away!! Hi!
My name is David M. And unfortunately, well, I live in the worse hell hole there is on the face of the whole world. It’s called The USA. the worse nation in history almost. You guessed it. Myself, I’m a former US Marine soldier and my father, an officer under General George Patten in WW2.
Me? To tell you the exact truth? I’m a homeless US military, both sets of parents now deceased, my sisters wouldn’t talked to me anymore, and sometime ago, my girlfriend, while went out drunk, was laying down on the street somewheres and then a serial killer came by, slit her drunk throat, and then proceeded to rape her dead body. Yes, there are alot of sick people and demented people in other parts of the world out there somewheres. Just don’t forget, we have the worst of them here in America. And not to mention that we have a mass murderer, baby killer in the White House, who sends out recruits to fight his war for oil profits. I just can’t help though, always pondering what is going on around the world I’m in, especially in the worst nation in history, no doubt. Pondering and wondering when can I finally pack my bags and leave this country and just leave these dumb ignoramous people of America, the rich in this country, who take so much advantage of the poor’s blood spilled for this country. Sometimes I wonder that if I’m really thinking serial killer thoughts or can I just leave them to their doom because they ((The filthy and shameless rich of this country)) to their doom because they don’t want to help the poor and needy in this country? I’m an ex-soldier and I see alot of things going on in this country, especially alot of dirty cops on the take. Makes me wonder of some of you US veterans out there in this world would think and wonder, “Should you just pack up your bags and just leave them to their doom, and get what they deserve”? Amazing heh? This world is so violent, if only someone would just push that button of Nuke, thank God, the pain an misery of some of us would just go away!!

]]> By: sk http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5773 sk Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:27:37 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5773 The silence was deafening at the 15'th <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970919/ai_n14133699" rel="nofollow">anniversary</a> as well. The silence was deafening at the 15′th anniversary as well.

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5767 gerald spezio Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:21:18 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/the-25th-anniversary-of-the-massacre-at-sabra-shatilla/#comment-5767 As a U.S. citizen accomplice and member of the species Homo Non Sapiens very much, I beg your forgiveness. As a U.S. citizen accomplice and member of the species Homo Non Sapiens very much, I beg your forgiveness.

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