Comments on: Jena 6 Protests Raise Hopes for a New Social Justice Movement http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:44:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jonas http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6564 Jonas Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:35:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6564 If six white students attacked and beat a black student, or the case was reversed, would anyone march in support of the white punks being treatged unfairly? No, the whole nation would be in uproar and all good white liberals would be tearing their clothes, wailing in grief and shame over violent white racists. Notice how all the Jena 6 whiners never even mention the victim's name or extent of his injuries, as if it was some unpleasant detail. Or the fact that the culprit had a violent criminal past? Almost no article on the subject ever delves into those details. Instead, they want to hang the halo of martyr over this punk. This reminds me of all the times the same people like Jackson or Sharpton cry about taxis passing up black fares. But do any of those complainers acknowledge that taxi driving is a dangerous job due to crime and almost all taxi cab criminals are black? I don't blame a taxi driver for passing up a black fare. Even if the driver doesn't get robbed, he will be cheated and abused. This I learned driving a cab. If six white students attacked and beat a black student, or the case was reversed, would anyone march in support of the white punks being treatged unfairly? No, the whole nation would be in uproar and all good white liberals would be tearing their clothes, wailing in grief and shame over violent white racists.
Notice how all the Jena 6 whiners never even mention the victim’s name or extent of his injuries, as if it was some unpleasant detail. Or the fact that the culprit had a violent criminal past? Almost no article on the subject ever delves into those details. Instead, they want to hang the halo of martyr over this punk.
This reminds me of all the times the same people like Jackson or Sharpton cry about taxis passing up black fares. But do any of those complainers acknowledge that taxi driving is a dangerous job due to crime and almost all taxi cab criminals are black? I don’t blame a taxi driver for passing up a black fare. Even if the driver doesn’t get robbed, he will be cheated and abused. This I learned driving a cab.

]]> By: Hue Longer http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6428 Hue Longer Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:39:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6428 Poor poor white folks who never hung a noose. Privilege for being white is real in the US-- no matter how many black friends you have and no matter how much you think you wish equality for all. "even if's" put aside, THIS was not a case of justice with an unfortunate lack of blacks who hate jury summons...For just one example, the DA is the same fuckwit who represents the school...the same proud racist who talked of "erasing lives" with his pen when the uppity blacks got upset that he called the noose incident a prank after he overrid the decision to expel the little white rascals Why would white people NOT get behind fighting this blatant injustice? white Liberals are the f'n worst when it comes to racism...always wanting to think they are victims too and getting mad at others who wont see them that way Before anyone patronizes others because Jesse Jackson arrived at an easy to come to party, maybe they should put their own logic qualifier to the test and ask why they felt compelled to see things the way THEY do. Poor poor white folks who never hung a noose.

Privilege for being white is real in the US– no matter how many black friends you have and no matter how much you think you wish equality for all.

“even if’s” put aside, THIS was not a case of justice with an unfortunate lack of blacks who hate jury summons…For just one example, the DA is the same fuckwit who represents the school…the same proud racist who talked of “erasing lives” with his pen when the uppity blacks got upset that he called the noose incident a prank after he overrid the decision to expel the little white rascals

Why would white people NOT get behind fighting this blatant injustice? white Liberals are the f’n worst when it comes to racism…always wanting to think they are victims too and getting mad at others who wont see them that way

Before anyone patronizes others because Jesse Jackson arrived at an easy to come to party, maybe they should put their own logic qualifier to the test and ask why they felt compelled to see things the way THEY do.

]]> By: messianicdruid http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6231 messianicdruid Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:30:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6231 "Justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubedly be seen to be done." Gordon Hewart I recognized a serious problem by learning the black kid was the only african in the whole courtroom during the trial. Where was the "jury of his peers"? It will never be acceptable for a room full of whites to sit in judgement on a single black person. Even if the verdict is just it will not be accepted, given the present state of the "justice" system. Why do blacks refuse to respond to summons for jury duty? "Never ascribe to malice things more readily credited to ignorance." Most involved in this spectacle are unaware of being manipulated, unaware of the actual situation or unaware of the consequences of their actions. Is there any way for people to be forced or coerced into looking at another person's point of view? When confronted by an unhappy woman, most men assume the condition is somehow related to him. This is a conditioned response of acceptance for the responsibility of a situation. False guilt has been also instilled into white people in general for the past, and in some cases, present oppression of minorities. I do not assume responsibility for the angst of others, but I realize, at some point I'm probably going to have to deal with it. “Justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubedly be seen to be done.” Gordon Hewart

I recognized a serious problem by learning the black kid was the only african in the whole courtroom during the trial. Where was the “jury of his peers”? It will never be acceptable for a room full of whites to sit in judgement on a single black person. Even if the verdict is just it will not be accepted, given the present state of the “justice” system. Why do blacks refuse to respond to summons for jury duty?

“Never ascribe to malice things more readily credited to ignorance.”

Most involved in this spectacle are unaware of being manipulated, unaware of the actual situation or unaware of the consequences of their actions. Is there any way for people to be forced or coerced into looking at another person’s point of view?

When confronted by an unhappy woman, most men assume the condition is somehow related to him. This is a conditioned response of acceptance for the responsibility of a situation. False guilt has been also instilled into white people in general for the past, and in some cases, present oppression of minorities. I do not assume responsibility for the angst of others, but I realize, at some point I’m probably going to have to deal with it.

]]> By: Chris Driscoll http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6222 Chris Driscoll Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:39:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6222 Dear Bill McGee, I've not heard any of the protesters in Jena defending the alleged violent reaction of the Jena 6, only reacting to the severity of the verdict and the hanging of nooses from the "whites only tree" at the school. When racism emerges in these violent symbols from the past, symbols glorifying lynching, I think it is important to respond as a nation with condemnation. In the last week I have seen reports of nooses hung from trees at the University of Maryland, College Park campus, and just last night, nooses hung from the back of a pick-up truck in a town near Jena in Louisiana. I believe that yesterday's protest in Jena was the right response. How about you. Sincerely, Chris Driscoll Dear Bill McGee,

I’ve not heard any of the protesters in Jena defending the alleged violent reaction of the Jena 6, only reacting to the severity of the verdict and the hanging of nooses from the “whites only tree” at the school. When racism emerges in these violent symbols from the past, symbols glorifying lynching, I think it is important to respond as a nation with condemnation. In the last week I have seen reports of nooses hung from trees at the University of Maryland, College Park campus, and just last night, nooses hung from the back of a pick-up truck in a town near Jena in Louisiana. I believe that yesterday’s protest in Jena was the right response. How about you.

Sincerely,
Chris Driscoll

]]> By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6212 Deadbeat Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:29:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6212 While Jackson and Sharpton have criticized the Democrats they both chose to run their campaigns WITHIN the Democratic party establishment. Jackson, too, was too consumed with his quest for control and deliberately broke up the coalition he built up after his 1988 presidential bid. In the end both Jackson and Sharpton affairs with the Democrats has been reactionary and has stunted the political progress of African Americans. While Jackson and Sharpton have criticized the Democrats they both chose to run their campaigns WITHIN the Democratic party establishment. Jackson, too, was too consumed with his quest for control and deliberately broke up the coalition he built up after his 1988 presidential bid.

In the end both Jackson and Sharpton affairs with the Democrats has been reactionary and has stunted the political progress of African Americans.

]]> By: Kenny http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6206 Kenny Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:20:44 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6206 I find this article very enlightening; the so called black leaders have forgotten what the movement was all about. The case of the Jena Six only exploits what we already know to be true. As big as this case has become many don't realize that it happened almost a year ago, and the media has only recently made this a public issue. The fair treatment of all blacks is what the movement is supposed to represent. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have alienated a lot of the black population because of the things they have done in the past. As for the Obama situation its an unfair assessment on what his campaign stands for. We will never see a black president in this country until all blacks view each other with a little bit more trust. Your dammed it you do by the majority and your dammed if you don't by the minority. Staying neutral is the only way to actually win the election. I think our Black Leaders forget that equality is something that comes from both sides of the fence not just the black, white side. I find this article very enlightening; the so called black leaders have forgotten what the movement was all about. The case of the Jena Six only exploits what we already know to be true. As big as this case has become many don’t realize that it happened almost a year ago, and the media has only recently made this a public issue. The fair treatment of all blacks is what the movement is supposed to represent. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have alienated a lot of the black population because of the things they have done in the past. As for the Obama situation its an unfair assessment on what his campaign stands for. We will never see a black president in this country until all blacks view each other with a little bit more trust. Your dammed it you do by the majority and your dammed if you don’t by the minority. Staying neutral is the only way to actually win the election. I think our Black Leaders forget that equality is something that comes from both sides of the fence not just the black, white side.

]]> By: Bill McGee http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6198 Bill McGee Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:52:44 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/jena-6-protests-raise-hopes-for-a-new-social-justice-movement/#comment-6198 What if the prosecuter was acting on the lethality of the 6-to-1 odds rather than according to racial bias? It appears that the white student was not seriously hurt, but was this not the same ratio of bullies-to- victim as in the Rodney King beating? Are we too quick to jump on the racial-bias, politically-correct bandwagon to understand some simpler truth here? Hurting peoples' feelings is not the same, despite what political correctness tell us, as pounding and kicking their bodies! What if the prosecuter was acting on the lethality of the 6-to-1 odds rather than according to racial bias? It appears that the white student was not seriously hurt, but was this not the same ratio of bullies-to- victim as in the Rodney King beating? Are we too quick to jump on the racial-bias, politically-correct bandwagon to understand some simpler truth here? Hurting peoples’ feelings is not the same, despite what political correctness tell us, as pounding and kicking their bodies!

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