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	<title>Comments on: Girl after Swine</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-7870</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see what the big deal is. I litter all the time and when I go back the rain has washed the litter away. Here is a video about littering.  
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GcGnyLEOMfE


Pcrossfarmington @ yahoo . com is my email if you want to tell me what you think of my littering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the big deal is. I litter all the time and when I go back the rain has washed the litter away. Here is a video about littering.<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=GcGnyLEOMfE" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=GcGnyLEOMfE</a></p>
<p>Pcrossfarmington @ yahoo . com is my email if you want to tell me what you think of my littering</p>
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		<title>By: ralpho</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-7149</link>
		<dc:creator>ralpho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author is right,We are all room-mates and live in the same house, wether we like it or not! And most of us don't want to live in  a dirty,sloppy, unhealthy house ,So as long as we HAVE to live together...THROW OUT YOUR GARBAGE YOU PIGS! DON'T LEAVE IT AROUND OUR HOUSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author is right,We are all room-mates and live in the same house, wether we like it or not! And most of us don&#8217;t want to live in  a dirty,sloppy, unhealthy house ,So as long as we HAVE to live together&#8230;THROW OUT YOUR GARBAGE YOU PIGS! DON&#8217;T LEAVE IT AROUND OUR HOUSE!</p>
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		<title>By: David Gaines</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-6670</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gaines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a peer pressure issue, no doubt about that.  This is a good wake-up call, but it needs to be in Parade magazine and Reader's Digest, not just Dissident Voice.  Hell, I'll settle for The Progressive magazine and the Christian Science Monitor.......

It's also a laziness issue.  People will do what is convenient, particularly when they know there's no downside to it or that no one will reproach them for it.  One time when I was in Brazil with a friend, I watched this old woman walk up to him and berate him in Portuguese because (I am not making this up) his shoes were dirty. I was warned by travel guides I read prior to the trip that this sort of thing occurs all the time in Brazilian cities, but I didn't believe it.  I think we need some old ladies in THIS country wagging fingers and kicking ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a peer pressure issue, no doubt about that.  This is a good wake-up call, but it needs to be in Parade magazine and Reader&#8217;s Digest, not just Dissident Voice.  Hell, I&#8217;ll settle for The Progressive magazine and the Christian Science Monitor&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a laziness issue.  People will do what is convenient, particularly when they know there&#8217;s no downside to it or that no one will reproach them for it.  One time when I was in Brazil with a friend, I watched this old woman walk up to him and berate him in Portuguese because (I am not making this up) his shoes were dirty. I was warned by travel guides I read prior to the trip that this sort of thing occurs all the time in Brazilian cities, but I didn&#8217;t believe it.  I think we need some old ladies in THIS country wagging fingers and kicking ass.</p>
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		<title>By: mutterhals</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-6565</link>
		<dc:creator>mutterhals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Pittsburgh and the litter is deplorable. It's everywhere. I once saw a man casually toss a paper dinner plate and fork out of his car window. The number one complaint non-Pittsburghers give regarding this city is the filth. You'd think that would be impetus enough to clean it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Pittsburgh and the litter is deplorable. It&#8217;s everywhere. I once saw a man casually toss a paper dinner plate and fork out of his car window. The number one complaint non-Pittsburghers give regarding this city is the filth. You&#8217;d think that would be impetus enough to clean it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Marikken</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-6526</link>
		<dc:creator>Marikken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not that bad everywhere.   I go hiking in the Rocky Mountains a lot and it is very rare to see litter on the trails.   Not all Americans are pigs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that bad everywhere.   I go hiking in the Rocky Mountains a lot and it is very rare to see litter on the trails.   Not all Americans are pigs.</p>
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		<title>By: JBPM</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/girl-after-swine/#comment-6444</link>
		<dc:creator>JBPM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We might, what, hurt the feelings of a self-centered boor who’s trashing our beach, our city, our planet?"

Self-centered. Boorish. Trash. And those are the GOOD qualities of the average American! 

I've tried for a decade to wrap my brain around the claim (made by Noam Chomsky) that people are basically good but that they have been systematically hoodwinked into buying into a way of life that is detrimental to them. I've realized that I can't believe it anymore.

Americans on the whole are willfully ignorant, which means that they actively search out the sources of propaganda that will reinforce their self-centered, boorish, trashy, small-minded view of the world.

The author is right: it doesn't take a PhD in ecology to figure out that throwing trash on the ground probably isn't the nicest, prettiest way to dispose of it. It also doesn't take a PhD in political science to grok that "free speech" means the freedom of speech for your opponents and those whose views you revile, but most Americans seem oblivious to this fact. That's why we get "free speech zones," college student taserings, etc. It doesn't take a PhD in government to figure out that the folks in the White House are LIARS. 

All it takes is for people to begin seeing things clearly and thinking about those things clearly. That, however, means seeing ourselves as something other than God's gift to the planet (something most Americans are loath to do) and having the gumption to stand up and say so.

Sadly, I think the only thing that will wake Americans up is having our asses completely and utterly kicked by the rest of the planet. It seems to have worked wonders for the Germans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We might, what, hurt the feelings of a self-centered boor who’s trashing our beach, our city, our planet?&#8221;</p>
<p>Self-centered. Boorish. Trash. And those are the GOOD qualities of the average American! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried for a decade to wrap my brain around the claim (made by Noam Chomsky) that people are basically good but that they have been systematically hoodwinked into buying into a way of life that is detrimental to them. I&#8217;ve realized that I can&#8217;t believe it anymore.</p>
<p>Americans on the whole are willfully ignorant, which means that they actively search out the sources of propaganda that will reinforce their self-centered, boorish, trashy, small-minded view of the world.</p>
<p>The author is right: it doesn&#8217;t take a PhD in ecology to figure out that throwing trash on the ground probably isn&#8217;t the nicest, prettiest way to dispose of it. It also doesn&#8217;t take a PhD in political science to grok that &#8220;free speech&#8221; means the freedom of speech for your opponents and those whose views you revile, but most Americans seem oblivious to this fact. That&#8217;s why we get &#8220;free speech zones,&#8221; college student taserings, etc. It doesn&#8217;t take a PhD in government to figure out that the folks in the White House are LIARS. </p>
<p>All it takes is for people to begin seeing things clearly and thinking about those things clearly. That, however, means seeing ourselves as something other than God&#8217;s gift to the planet (something most Americans are loath to do) and having the gumption to stand up and say so.</p>
<p>Sadly, I think the only thing that will wake Americans up is having our asses completely and utterly kicked by the rest of the planet. It seems to have worked wonders for the Germans.</p>
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