Comments on: General Betray-Us and MoveOn.org http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:47:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Debi Todd http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6335 Debi Todd Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:36:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6335 I followed the 'whole' thing: from the responses of the republicans to the senate on C-SPAN - The republicans wasted a lot of time during the transportation portion (the week after the ad ran), but were unsuccessful at getting it added. They finally did so this past week and voted it in on Thursday. I sat there dumb-founded as I heard all the "ayes" being recorded as the amendment passed. I gained respect for Hillary Clinton that day. She voted against it while Joseph Biden and Barack Obama didn't even show up to vote. I followed the ‘whole’ thing: from the responses of the republicans to the senate on C-SPAN - The republicans wasted a lot of time during the transportation portion (the week after the ad ran), but were unsuccessful at getting it added.

They finally did so this past week and voted it in on Thursday. I sat there dumb-founded as I heard all the “ayes” being recorded as the amendment passed.

I gained respect for Hillary Clinton that day. She voted against it while Joseph Biden and Barack Obama didn’t even show up to vote.

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6330 gerald spezio Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:59:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6330 I just learned this morning (Sunday) that our Senate passed a resolution praising General Petraus, and condemning Move-on for its lack of taste - specifcally framing the General's name as Betrayus. At first I thought that the article was a spoof, but nay, it is real. Our elected leaders are working hard to protect us. We are protected from terrorists and terrible taste. Taste is how English literature majors determine truth from falsehood. I just learned this morning (Sunday) that our Senate passed a resolution praising General Petraus, and condemning Move-on for its lack of taste - specifcally framing the General’s name as Betrayus.
At first I thought that the article was a spoof, but nay, it is real.
Our elected leaders are working hard to protect us.
We are protected from terrorists and terrible taste.
Taste is how English literature majors determine truth from falsehood.

]]> By: jim slaybaugh http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6285 jim slaybaugh Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:30:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6285 Whoa Milosevic.. Apparently my point was not clear enough, (due to a poor choice of words).. I respect Cindy because she is courageous & honest.. I do not respect bush because he is not courageous or honest.. However, my syntax was inappropriate & for that I apologize. Whoa Milosevic..
Apparently my point was not clear enough, (due to a poor choice of words)..
I respect Cindy because she is courageous & honest..
I do not respect bush because he is not courageous or honest..
However, my syntax was inappropriate & for that I apologize.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6233 Daniel Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:36:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6233 Hey guys and gals, it's time to demolish the Statue of Liberty. It could be pulled down much like the statue of Saddam though surely it would make a much bigger splash. America is fast becoming a fascist state, one that the whole world fears with good reason. Time to get your house in order or pull down the statue because, currently, it is a fraud! Hey guys and gals, it’s time to demolish the Statue of Liberty. It could be pulled down much like the statue of Saddam though surely it would make a much bigger splash.

America is fast becoming a fascist state, one that the whole world fears with good reason. Time to get your house in order or pull down the statue because, currently, it is a fraud!

]]> By: milosevic http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6221 milosevic Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:38:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6221 quote: "THAT FAUX COWBOY / MAKE BELIEVE TOUGH GUY AINT MAN ENOUGH FOR THE JOB–PERIOD!" "If Presnit bush had half the balls of Cindy Sheehan this nation would be respected…" So what's needed is a "tougher", more "manly" president, with bigger "balls"? How would such a person be different than Bush? Would he kill more people? Isn't Bush doing fairly well at that? Should women avoid politics because they don't have the "balls" for it? Is Cindy Sheehan now an honorary "man"? Why does she need "balls" to do what she's doing? Isn't this reactionary sexist crap part of the problem? quote:

“THAT FAUX COWBOY / MAKE BELIEVE TOUGH GUY AINT MAN ENOUGH FOR THE JOB–PERIOD!”

“If Presnit bush had half the balls of Cindy Sheehan this nation would be respected…”

So what’s needed is a “tougher”, more “manly” president, with bigger “balls”?

How would such a person be different than Bush? Would he kill more people? Isn’t Bush doing fairly well at that?

Should women avoid politics because they don’t have the “balls” for it? Is Cindy Sheehan now an honorary “man”? Why does she need “balls” to do what she’s doing?

Isn’t this reactionary sexist crap part of the problem?

]]> By: jim slaybaugh http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6219 jim slaybaugh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:30:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6219 bush 41 gave a speech in Asia & was offended when the audience booed him because of bush 43... In rebuttal bush 41 claimed that his son was a good man & an honest man... As a 70 year old american citizen I believe that DUBYA is neither... He is not good--he is an incompetent fool... He is not honest--he is an inveterate liar & even at that he is not good... THAT FAUX COWBOY / MAKE BELIEVE TOUGH GUY AINT MAN ENOUGH FOR THE JOB--PERIOD !!!! on the other hand, since most of us murkans are physically & intellectually lazy ,we deserve this sad caricature as representative of our unwillingness to deal with serious issues... If Presnit bush(small b) had half the balls of Cindy Sheehan this nation would be respected...deservedly so...... bush 41 gave a speech in Asia & was offended when the audience booed him
because of bush 43… In rebuttal bush 41 claimed that his son was a good man
& an honest man…
As a 70 year old american citizen I believe that DUBYA is neither…
He is not good–he is an incompetent fool…
He is not honest–he is an inveterate liar & even at that he is not good…
THAT FAUX COWBOY / MAKE BELIEVE TOUGH GUY AINT MAN ENOUGH FOR THE JOB–PERIOD !!!! on the other hand, since most of us
murkans are physically & intellectually lazy ,we deserve this sad caricature as
representative of our unwillingness to deal with serious issues…
If Presnit bush(small b) had half the balls of Cindy Sheehan this nation would be respected…deservedly so……

]]> By: john walsh http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6208 john walsh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:50:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6208 Right on, Cindy. Of course to catch MoveOn doing something right you have to be almost as eagle-eyed as necessary to catch the Dems doing something right. BUT the name BetrayUs should stick. It should be used widely. The more the better since this guy is a propaganda tool for the war and hopes to be pres himself in 2012. Who would want a pres with a name like BetrayUs? john walsh Right on, Cindy. Of course to catch MoveOn doing something right you have to be almost as eagle-eyed as necessary to catch the Dems doing something right.
BUT the name BetrayUs should stick. It should be used widely. The more the better since this guy is a propaganda tool for the war and hopes to be pres himself in 2012.
Who would want a pres with a name like BetrayUs?
john walsh

]]> By: Ruben Botello http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6199 Ruben Botello Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:37:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/general-betray-us-and-moveonorg/#comment-6199 I certainly do support MoveOn's ad, and you, Cindy! Their opponents are not only condeming free speech, they are condemning the truth about the betrayer and so many other mass murderers. I certainly do support MoveOn’s ad, and you, Cindy! Their opponents are not only condeming free speech, they are condemning the truth about the betrayer and so many other mass murderers.

]]>