http://www.rowzane.com/0000_m_e/0m_e_2007/2705/E13-Manochehr.htm

http://www.petitiononline.com/kurdish/petition.html

http://www.iranpressnews.com/media/video/help_iran.swf

Socrates said, “The misuse of language induces evil in the soul.”

By which she and I take to mean politicians and lawyers who twist language to mean something it didn’t necessarily mean originally.

And frankly regardless of what the politicians might say with gay marriage and such the reality is most people are that scared of anything different they still mistreat one another for being different particularly away from the larger cities where it’s hard to get away with it with impunity because there is less support for your idea of “normal”. I live in a town of between 30-50 thousand people and only know of a couple of homosexuals, four lesbians, and three bisexuals, and I can honestly say I know a lot of people around here. We know the dangers of being too open, one of my gay friends had his jaw and both arms broken when he was beaten six years ago. It’s hard to be open when you know you’re facing open hostility from the uneducated, and bisexuals often get the worst of it from both sides, we’re the least popular frequently with straights and gays having a bone with us.

You don’t need to tell us about the stonings and such that happen to openly homosexual males in the middle east, we see plenty of it personally in western countries, what gets the goat of the people is the fact it’s a capital crime, punishable by death in Iran. Seems it wasn’t so long ago in many western countries it was still considered rape by law though regardless of consent.

Thank you Ceri Cat:

You brought an important issue and you were enough knowledgeable to figure out What he meant. In Islamic countries, homosexuality is not open but we do have homosexuals for sure like you do otherwise many homosexuals including Michel Foucault would not have gone to Tunis to teach. He was later asked to leave the country because, according to Edward Said, he established a relationship with one of his male students but Foucault condemned Tunis as an oppressive country as the cause. Ahmadi Nejad by saying “we don’t have homosexual like in your country” he wanted to say that: we don’t have homosexuality in open. Iranian homosexuals are still in closet for good reason. Thus, they get married with opposite sex and have children like a “normal” family, however, they have their own private life on the side. It is pretty much Like this country thirty years ago. That’s why Ahmadi Nejad gave such an answer and I hope he is not be ridiculed because does not follow your footsteps to allow for the same sex marriage. Don’t forget that the west used to put homosexuals in prison a century ago.
Few were executed due to RAPE who happened to be homosexuals. There has been homosexually in Iranian society and still exist not only among men but also among women. If there is no homosexual in Iran then how women do who kept in Shah’s harem and were not seen in months or years by the Shah would have satisfied them sexually.

As Mr. Nanjundiah has written, Ahmadi Nejad is not a Dictator. Ahmadi Nejad has been elected by the Iranian people. Regarding those who say that candidates were selected, therefore, the election was not free and fair. I must say: this is according to Iranian constitution and was voted by the Iranian people. We have a selection process in this country as well and that is MONEY. In Iran sometimes up to 600 people have applied for the presidency because anyone can get into the process. How about here? Only the dynasties such as Bush, Clinton, Roosevelt,… and billionaires can get it. Iranian people are determined to improve the election laws but please look at the American election. Who can run for the presidency? Have you ever listen to one of these so called debates. Can you distinguish one from the others? What is their position on Iran? Don’t they say THE SAME DAMN THINGS regardless of their party affiliation or Gender? Why is that? Don’t they have any creativity and imagination of their own? Why they repeat each other’s lines and put the audience to sleep. These candidates have obligation TO SERVE the interest of the ZIONIST LOBBY before American people’s interest to be elected as a president otherwise they would have not copied each other lines which is dictated by AIPAC, at least in the Middle East policy agenda.
As far as stoning is concerned, I should say few cases have been taken place in remote villages according to local decision of that community. You kill hundreds in a minute
with your bombs by remote control and dare to hold these rare cases against Iran. Have you ever looked at the smashed and burned bodies of these innocent people that you have killed either in Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan or……..? You should look at this country crime record with more than 2.3 million people in Prison. The political activists who are pampered by the organizations and endowments which are extension of CIA to bring regime change in the targeted countries have blown these cases out of proportion for publicity. Those Iranians who have cooperated with the west against the Iranian government have received AWARDS to be encouraged to continue their cooperation against the government such as SHADI SADR who is a journalist and a woman activist who has received an AWARD.
In North of Iraq, Kurdistan, where we have seen cases of stoning * but because North of Iraq is spy network for US and Israel and Kurds who are given military training and financial assistant like those in DARFUR to destabilize the government and the country and set the stage for dividing the country to serve Israel’s “MAP CHANGE’ of the Middle East. Thus, you do not hear anything about STONING in KURDISTAN, have you? The Charlatan Tomas Friedman, who pushed for the Iraq War on lies and deception for the interest of Israel, called Kurdistan, on Charlie Rose, a “Democratic” entity to be cherished. Why? Because they want to divide Iraq, a Zionist project, to create puppets for Israel in the region. The Zionist plan brought to the floor by their servants, Bidan, and passed by yes votes from the AIPAC girl such as Hillary Clinton and the rest.
The Islamic republic of Iran came to power as a result of quota ta in 1953 against Mossadeq, the prime minister, who was a democrat and was elected by the Iranian people. He was brutally removed by an American coup during Eisenhower administration in 1953 to serve the interest of the Oil companies. The Shah, who brought back by US, did not allow any freedom of expression and therefore, the only place where people could assemble was Mosque. You should admire Iranian with such a limitation on freedom of expression and political, yet they were able to kick out American puppet. I THINK IT IS THE TIME TO STOP BEING SO ARROGANT AND IGNORANT AND open your eyes to the reality of your own crimes in the region to understand the historical events before saying anything further otherwise you are going to make yourself vulnerable to criticism and charges of ignorance.
For those who think we are at war I should say we are not at war. You have created a PHONNY WAR THAT IS CALLED ‘WAR ON TERROR’ TO ALLOW YOU TO establish your hegemony all over the world, and we will see who the winner at the end is.
We have no Al Qaeda because al Qaeda is the United States and her extension Israel. Only the fool believes these tapes where occasionally are surfaced to manipulate people’s opinion or to serve a political agenda. You must be a fool to believe that Ben Laden is sending these tapes and each time is getting as least 10 years younger and his beard turning from almost white to completely black.
This is fucking time for Zionists to stop lies about Ahmadi Nejad to brain wash American people so they can use American resources to serve the interest of Israel by waging a Zionist war at American people’s expense. I think this a fucking time that American people wake up and stop the Zionists like pothoretz, Lieberman, Kristal, and the rest of the gang to wage another Zionist war by standing up and demanding the impeachment of George Bush and his associates to stop further disaster for America.

Stoning in Kurdistan
http://web.peykeiran.com/vs2005/occurrences_body.aspx?ID=49
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/jacobs010206.html

“In Iran, we do not have homosexuals like in your country.”

Gotta love how they only quote what makes the most impact on you even if it possibly changes the meaning of what was said. The way it’s said is somewhat ambiguous in nature given in most muslim countries homosexuality is only behind closed doors he could conceivably be referring to the “in-your-face” aspect of American homosexuals, despite the homosexuality death penalty (at least they’re reasonable in some ways requires 4 eye witnesses), I’ve seen no proof of any such executions by the Iran government, just rumours and hype, and people seeking refuge will occasionally pull tricks if they don’t think they’re going to be allowed to stay, and the gay prosecution angle is so hot right now.

Getting hot and fired up by what is actually said is one thing, getting hot and fired up over a doctored quote is something else again. Given the questions asked it really doesn’t sound like he’s denying the existence of homosexuals when it’s translated. Let’s have facts we can put some faith in, even if it’s video manufactured by the US government it’d be better than a few isolated reports, and mentioned statistics I can’t even hunt down with a ouji board (hey google failed too).

And furthermore let me say this; “You don’t have to a trained lawyer to know where the super lobby big money is, but it helps.”

With regard to what Nejad actually had to say, the only thing Americans are going to remember about his rambling diatribe is that he claims there are no gays in Iran. This is the same man that stood before his own parliament and declared that inflation was not a problem in Iran. Nejad is a radical, and radicals have no ability to perceive reality as it is. Listening to him was like listening to Kruschev, Castro, or the Kim Jong sycophants in North Korea. They all lived a lie, and Nejad is no different.

Presidential hopeful calls Israel “the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East”

Says Jonathan Pollard deserves leniency but not a pardon

In an exclusive Shalom TV interview, US Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-DE) emphatically stated his commitment to the State of Israel, calling the country “the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East.”

Senator Biden further stressed that without Israel, one could only imagine how many battleships and troops America would have to station in the Middle East.

Meeting with Shalom TV President Rabbi Mark S. Golub in Washington, DC, the candidate for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination said that it’s insulting for any American to suggest that Israel is somehow the cause of the war in Iraq.

“If, tomorrow, peace broke out between Israelis and Palestinians, does anybody think there wouldn’t be a full-blown war in Iraq? And, conversely, if Iraq were transported to Mars, does anyone think there would not be terrorism visited upon the Israelis every day?

“So let’s get it straight. Israel is not the cause of Iraq. Iraq being settled or not settled has nothing to do with Israel’s conduct.”

The Senator also expressed a sensitivity and empathy for Israelis who have had to live with terrorism.

“[From 9/11], Americans can taste what it must feel like for every Israeli mother and father when they send their kid out to school with their lunch to put them on a bus, on a bicycle or to walk; and they pray to God that cell phone doesn’t ring.”

“I am a Zionist,” stated Senator Biden. “You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”

I would like to think that Iranians are not all crazy hate mongers like their leader. But, you are telling me that such may not be the case, since, as you claim, 62% of Iranians voted for him. Good grief.

And, for the record, bad as the Shah was - and he was certainly very bad and very brutal -, his regime was, by Iranian standards, remarkably progressive. That is something the Iranian Islamists hated about him. He wanted to reform and modernize Iranian society.

The Shah, brutal as he was, sought to empower women. Non-Muslims were not oppressed as they are under the current regime. He opposed the stoning to death of criminals - a regular feature of the Mullahs’ regime under Ahmadinejad.

It is true that the Shah was brutal but, frankly, one has to consider and condemn what the current Iranian regime does - for example, stoning people to death - before judging him too harshly. Which is to say, one needs to judge the Shah in context. If Sadu is to be believed, the correct context is a people who feel comfortable voting for a regime that stones people to death, that discriminates against non-Muslims and that is, by any rational standards, brutal and reactionary, most especially toward women.

Let us put the matter a bit more directly. We have two regimes - that of the Shah and that of the the Mullahs -. Both are brutal. Both deserve to be condemned. But, in the scheme of things, were I a woman, a gay, a non-Muslim, etc., etc., or a person who cares about other human beings, I would prefer to live under a brutal modernizer than a regime dedicated to undermining all progressive gains that have been made in most parts of the world.

So another day will pass and the article posted yesterday by Dr. Abbas Bakhtiar, which in fact should be read after Professor Sadu’s, will continue slipping past unobserved like some ghostly nuclear submarine, but into obscurity as far as DV and it’s readers are concerned.