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	<title>Comments on: Shall We Toady? DePaul’s Junior Faculty and the Dershowitz Factor</title>
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		<title>By: Lila Rajiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lila Rajiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguments about the use of the Holocaust in public debate don't constitute  an "intra-Jewish fight."  It would be  much more accurate to say that they involve questions of state policy in this country (and in Israel) and of propaganda in the west at large --  an issue which affects ALL writers, journalists, thinkers, intellectuals, scholars and even citizens who just want to be informed accurately -- not simply Jews.

It amazes me how so many Anglophone intellectuals (even well-meaning ones) feel completely qualified to analyze atrocities and abuses anywhere in the world, loudly and superfically (if not downright  incorrectly), often with the sketchiest and most second-hand  knowledge (gleaned from the English language writings of their own DC-N. York  journalist buddies or from scholars at various "prestigious"  universities, all sharing exactly the same  myopic viewpoint ). 

A notable recent example is  Martha Nussbaum, whose latest book on India (preparatory, I imagine, to humanitarian bombing, somewhere down the line) can only annoy anyone who  knows anything about the subject. When it comes to their own backyard, however, these soi-disant arbiters of universal values frigidly ignore  views that aren't self-selected, insular and distinctly obsequious to their pet theories about life outside hard cover. Prizes,  tenures, sinecures,  reviews, cocktail parties and the rest of the  glitz of  intellectual life follow in lock step. A nice system.... 

Now, good for those who make their living from it - I don't knock them.
As long as they remember,  that's all it is -  a living. A way of paying their bills that  has little do with the real life of the mind -- which might sooner take place in some scorching megapolis abroad or ghetto stink-hole here  than at one of their blow-dried  soirees. And might take place  silently as much as it does vocally. 

On the outside, we know this.  On the outside, we know it is their  arrogant and utterly self-regarding attitude that  makes mainstream western  idealogues less than credible, less than admirable  in the eyes of the day-to-day world of millions of human beings. The criticism of these smatterers is always within a select framework, in which they and they alone are true subjects.

The correct response is to hold their opnions in equal disdain. A favorable review from one of them should be treated much as one treats an alarming  bug of some kind....you hope you'll get through, but it might be the beginning of a fatal contamination...

Is this a viable position for a struggling writer? Yes, indeed. 

Blogging makes it possible for books to sell and sell, well even without reviews from the establishment.  Fellow bloggers and dissidents are willing to say a good word here and there. A reader. An unknown collegaue. The pleasure of having the good will and encouragement  of those who share your  sympathies and your  aloneness  is something surely far more satisfying than the brittle praise  of  people whose main concern is pleasing the right people and stepping on the obscure in their frantic rush to the limelight. 

 In fact, a  new ambition --  I hope to forego a publisher altogether and publish directly. Perhaps those two lengthy chapter on media ownership in this country that were cut out summarily (would offend too may people, they said), will see the light that way. 

So, what has this to do with Finkelstein? 

Everything. 

The central issue in this country and in many western countries is not globalization or imperialism;  it is not torture or the CIA;  it is not  humanitarian intervention...or realpolitik...or peacekeeping.. or  even war. 

The central issue is brainwashing. Whether it is at universities or in the press or in think-tanks; whether in war or in peace-time. Whether the subject is Israel or imperialism or  the family or women or money or IQ tests or immigration or race.

The issue now  is how we think. Or don't.  And what we get to think about. Who does it for us. Why.  And where it is leading us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguments about the use of the Holocaust in public debate don&#8217;t constitute  an &#8220;intra-Jewish fight.&#8221;  It would be  much more accurate to say that they involve questions of state policy in this country (and in Israel) and of propaganda in the west at large &#8212;  an issue which affects ALL writers, journalists, thinkers, intellectuals, scholars and even citizens who just want to be informed accurately &#8212; not simply Jews.</p>
<p>It amazes me how so many Anglophone intellectuals (even well-meaning ones) feel completely qualified to analyze atrocities and abuses anywhere in the world, loudly and superfically (if not downright  incorrectly), often with the sketchiest and most second-hand  knowledge (gleaned from the English language writings of their own DC-N. York  journalist buddies or from scholars at various &#8220;prestigious&#8221;  universities, all sharing exactly the same  myopic viewpoint ). </p>
<p>A notable recent example is  Martha Nussbaum, whose latest book on India (preparatory, I imagine, to humanitarian bombing, somewhere down the line) can only annoy anyone who  knows anything about the subject. When it comes to their own backyard, however, these soi-disant arbiters of universal values frigidly ignore  views that aren&#8217;t self-selected, insular and distinctly obsequious to their pet theories about life outside hard cover. Prizes,  tenures, sinecures,  reviews, cocktail parties and the rest of the  glitz of  intellectual life follow in lock step. A nice system&#8230;. </p>
<p>Now, good for those who make their living from it - I don&#8217;t knock them.<br />
As long as they remember,  that&#8217;s all it is -  a living. A way of paying their bills that  has little do with the real life of the mind &#8212; which might sooner take place in some scorching megapolis abroad or ghetto stink-hole here  than at one of their blow-dried  soirees. And might take place  silently as much as it does vocally. </p>
<p>On the outside, we know this.  On the outside, we know it is their  arrogant and utterly self-regarding attitude that  makes mainstream western  idealogues less than credible, less than admirable  in the eyes of the day-to-day world of millions of human beings. The criticism of these smatterers is always within a select framework, in which they and they alone are true subjects.</p>
<p>The correct response is to hold their opnions in equal disdain. A favorable review from one of them should be treated much as one treats an alarming  bug of some kind&#8230;.you hope you&#8217;ll get through, but it might be the beginning of a fatal contamination&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this a viable position for a struggling writer? Yes, indeed. </p>
<p>Blogging makes it possible for books to sell and sell, well even without reviews from the establishment.  Fellow bloggers and dissidents are willing to say a good word here and there. A reader. An unknown collegaue. The pleasure of having the good will and encouragement  of those who share your  sympathies and your  aloneness  is something surely far more satisfying than the brittle praise  of  people whose main concern is pleasing the right people and stepping on the obscure in their frantic rush to the limelight. </p>
<p> In fact, a  new ambition &#8212;  I hope to forego a publisher altogether and publish directly. Perhaps those two lengthy chapter on media ownership in this country that were cut out summarily (would offend too may people, they said), will see the light that way. </p>
<p>So, what has this to do with Finkelstein? </p>
<p>Everything. </p>
<p>The central issue in this country and in many western countries is not globalization or imperialism;  it is not torture or the CIA;  it is not  humanitarian intervention&#8230;or realpolitik&#8230;or peacekeeping.. or  even war. </p>
<p>The central issue is brainwashing. Whether it is at universities or in the press or in think-tanks; whether in war or in peace-time. Whether the subject is Israel or imperialism or  the family or women or money or IQ tests or immigration or race.</p>
<p>The issue now  is how we think. Or don&#8217;t.  And what we get to think about. Who does it for us. Why.  And where it is leading us.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnie Quezada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnnie Quezada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Michael Kenny, your neutrality is disgustingly biased. First off,  Finkelstein did his job as an academic and published works of high quality that spurred debate. I do not agree with everything Finkelstein has said or written but you cannot deny the man's scholarship.  By denying him his hard earned and deserved tenure this is exactly what the university administration has done. Moreover, it has also deprived its students of a quality individual who is respected both within and outside of the university's walls. 

Second, Norman Finkelstein did not drag anybody into anything. It is the President, the Dean, a minority on the tenure committee,  who are not even experts in the field,  as well as someone who does not even work at DePaul, Alan Dershowitz who went "dragging DePaul into a Jewish fight."  Like if  judging someone on their on merits, which is what has not been done in this case,  is the province of  Jewish folks alone or that the seriousness and quality of  your work is germane to your ethnicity. Fairness and equity IS everyone's concern. Read your bible Kenny, fighting injustice and inequity wherever it might arise was what Jesus's life was about. Why don't you write Alan Dershowitz and ask why he stuck his nose where it doesn't belong?  Yes, he has  a right to try to refute Finklestein's positions but not to mess with the man's livelihood. Of course, he knows that he cannot best Finklestein on an even academic terrain so he resorted to underhanded, unscrupulous and cowardly methods.

Finally Kenny, don't be such a smug fucking asshole! You know full well Bill Williams did not mean that St. Vincent himself founded the University bearing his name. Only that it was founded by whomever at some particular time. You don't endear yourself to anyone by engaging in misdirection plays and sowing confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Michael Kenny, your neutrality is disgustingly biased. First off,  Finkelstein did his job as an academic and published works of high quality that spurred debate. I do not agree with everything Finkelstein has said or written but you cannot deny the man&#8217;s scholarship.  By denying him his hard earned and deserved tenure this is exactly what the university administration has done. Moreover, it has also deprived its students of a quality individual who is respected both within and outside of the university&#8217;s walls. </p>
<p>Second, Norman Finkelstein did not drag anybody into anything. It is the President, the Dean, a minority on the tenure committee,  who are not even experts in the field,  as well as someone who does not even work at DePaul, Alan Dershowitz who went &#8220;dragging DePaul into a Jewish fight.&#8221;  Like if  judging someone on their on merits, which is what has not been done in this case,  is the province of  Jewish folks alone or that the seriousness and quality of  your work is germane to your ethnicity. Fairness and equity IS everyone&#8217;s concern. Read your bible Kenny, fighting injustice and inequity wherever it might arise was what Jesus&#8217;s life was about. Why don&#8217;t you write Alan Dershowitz and ask why he stuck his nose where it doesn&#8217;t belong?  Yes, he has  a right to try to refute Finklestein&#8217;s positions but not to mess with the man&#8217;s livelihood. Of course, he knows that he cannot best Finklestein on an even academic terrain so he resorted to underhanded, unscrupulous and cowardly methods.</p>
<p>Finally Kenny, don&#8217;t be such a smug fucking asshole! You know full well Bill Williams did not mean that St. Vincent himself founded the University bearing his name. Only that it was founded by whomever at some particular time. You don&#8217;t endear yourself to anyone by engaging in misdirection plays and sowing confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article simply reinforces the essential point: Norman Finkelstein was dragging DePaul into a Jewish fight which was of no concern to Catholics. Taking sides in such a fight is not the role of a Catholic institution. By the way, St. Vincent de Paul died in 1660. My best guess is that it wasn't him who founded the university!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article simply reinforces the essential point: Norman Finkelstein was dragging DePaul into a Jewish fight which was of no concern to Catholics. Taking sides in such a fight is not the role of a Catholic institution. By the way, St. Vincent de Paul died in 1660. My best guess is that it wasn&#8217;t him who founded the university!</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Buntin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Buntin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this piece... 
The Finkelstein tenure situation is a travesty.   Alan Dershowitz is a major apologist for crimes against humanity, and it should be HIS elevated reputation that's up for scrutiny.   I'm sure he's smiling, satisified with his unprecedented ability to interfere with the internal affairs of another school and trample on justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this piece&#8230;<br />
The Finkelstein tenure situation is a travesty.   Alan Dershowitz is a major apologist for crimes against humanity, and it should be HIS elevated reputation that&#8217;s up for scrutiny.   I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s smiling, satisified with his unprecedented ability to interfere with the internal affairs of another school and trample on justice.</p>
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