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	<title>Comments on: Why Boycott Israel? Because It’s Good for You</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-21017</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your equation of support for Israel with support for the "neo-colonial world system" emblematizes the shameful logical fallacy rotting the intellect of the contemporary left.   The real reason the fringe-left hates Israel is because the prosperity and liberty it offers all of its citizens, Arabs included (relative to their brethren in other ME countries)  stands as a rebuke to the  pseudo-socialist authoritiarianism that people like Galloway salivate for.

I am glad people with your views have no power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your equation of support for Israel with support for the &#8220;neo-colonial world system&#8221; emblematizes the shameful logical fallacy rotting the intellect of the contemporary left.   The real reason the fringe-left hates Israel is because the prosperity and liberty it offers all of its citizens, Arabs included (relative to their brethren in other ME countries)  stands as a rebuke to the  pseudo-socialist authoritiarianism that people like Galloway salivate for.</p>
<p>I am glad people with your views have no power.</p>
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		<title>By: sheldon g</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-7746</link>
		<dc:creator>sheldon g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" the displaced Egyptians, and Jordanians ( which you call palestinians ) that have been living in the land of Israel like a bunch of thives living in a mans house while he is in prison will be distroyed. When you see the Temple being rebuilt know the time is near"
 
       Can  you believe this fucking guy????...I believe you are a zionazi, where is your respect 4 human life?, the holocaust was a tragedy...a dark period in the history of mankind...so  was the slow but sure genocide inflicted on the indigenous peoples of america...&#62;when will we get our own state at the expense of human lives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the displaced Egyptians, and Jordanians ( which you call palestinians ) that have been living in the land of Israel like a bunch of thives living in a mans house while he is in prison will be distroyed. When you see the Temple being rebuilt know the time is near&#8221;</p>
<p>       Can  you believe this fucking guy????&#8230;I believe you are a zionazi, where is your respect 4 human life?, the holocaust was a tragedy&#8230;a dark period in the history of mankind&#8230;so  was the slow but sure genocide inflicted on the indigenous peoples of america&#8230;&gt;when will we get our own state at the expense of human lives</p>
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		<title>By: plymon</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-3715</link>
		<dc:creator>plymon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your like a bunch of ship rats scurring about. You discuss over, and over everything you think is important. When all the time knowing nothing about the truth. The ship rats are never aware of the fact there on a sinking ship. And when the ship finally sinks, there baffled. What happened? I thought we had it all figured out..... Israel lives for reasons you know not of. Israel is on a collision course with distiny, and there is nothing you can do about it. Just keep talking, and typing. It want acomplish anything but it will keep the fools busy... And when that time comes, the displaced Egyptians, and Jordanians ( which you call palestinians ) that have been living in the land of Israel like a bunch of thives living in a mans house while he is in prison will be distroyed. When you see the Temple being rebuilt know the time is near.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your like a bunch of ship rats scurring about. You discuss over, and over everything you think is important. When all the time knowing nothing about the truth. The ship rats are never aware of the fact there on a sinking ship. And when the ship finally sinks, there baffled. What happened? I thought we had it all figured out&#8230;.. Israel lives for reasons you know not of. Israel is on a collision course with distiny, and there is nothing you can do about it. Just keep talking, and typing. It want acomplish anything but it will keep the fools busy&#8230; And when that time comes, the displaced Egyptians, and Jordanians ( which you call palestinians ) that have been living in the land of Israel like a bunch of thives living in a mans house while he is in prison will be distroyed. When you see the Temple being rebuilt know the time is near.</p>
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		<title>By: Larkin the Irish</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-2791</link>
		<dc:creator>Larkin the Irish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you pussies didn't print my outstanding solution for winning the hearts and minds in Iraq and afghanistan .So in  retaliation  I am going  to airdrop hundreds of thousands of eight track players that will only play one song over and over ;The Captain and Teniles"Muskrat love" . I tried to help with my with
my idea of subduing the enemy with HDTV , but NOOOOOOOOOO!
So The Captain and Tenile it is. may god have mercy on your souls!@!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you pussies didn&#8217;t print my outstanding solution for winning the hearts and minds in Iraq and afghanistan .So in  retaliation  I am going  to airdrop hundreds of thousands of eight track players that will only play one song over and over ;The Captain and Teniles&#8221;Muskrat love&#8221; . I tried to help with my with<br />
my idea of subduing the enemy with HDTV , but NOOOOOOOOOO!<br />
So The Captain and Tenile it is. may god have mercy on your souls!@!!</p>
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		<title>By: Montag</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator>Montag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nazis had a pretty striking poster which illustrated the gist of your essay.  It showed an honest German Worker being attacked by a Polish soldier from the front, while a German Socialist was pinning his arms back defenselessly from behind.  The poster didn't need many words to get its point accross!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazis had a pretty striking poster which illustrated the gist of your essay.  It showed an honest German Worker being attacked by a Polish soldier from the front, while a German Socialist was pinning his arms back defenselessly from behind.  The poster didn&#8217;t need many words to get its point accross!</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my previous comment, when I put the links, I used HTML, but I don't think I was supposed to becasue when you click on them you get an error.  

To read the articles just copy and paste the web address  into your browser address bar.</description>
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<p>To read the articles just copy and paste the web address  into your browser address bar.</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-2501</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 07:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to repeat my June 23, 2007 comment here  because it looks like my prediction has come true.

&lt;i&gt;If the boycott is done and it spreads to other countries what will happen? &lt;b&gt;Conveniently, a terrorist act wil take place  (committed by agent provocateurs) and Israel will say “We told you so.”&lt;/b&gt;  These terrorist acts (whether it was the killing   of the Isrealis at the 1972 Munich Olympics, or the hijacking of Air France Flight 139, where hostages were held at Entebbe  Airport in Uganda, or the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro), benefit Israel more than it does the Palestinians

If these British teachers want things to improve for the Palestinians, why don’t they set the example by having their government stop its participation in the occupation of Iraq?

This also goes to the Americans on the radical left who want to talk about Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, but do not want to discuss the United States’ war crimes around the world.&lt;i&gt;

See Kurt Nimmo’s article about the events in London and Glasgow &lt;a href="”http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=915”" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=915&lt;/a&gt;

Pham Binh has a good article about this topic as well &lt;a href="”http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/glasglow-murderous-masterminds-or-hopeless-idiots/”" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/glasglow-murderous-masterminds-or-hopeless-idiots/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to repeat my June 23, 2007 comment here  because it looks like my prediction has come true.</p>
<p><i>If the boycott is done and it spreads to other countries what will happen? <b>Conveniently, a terrorist act wil take place  (committed by agent provocateurs) and Israel will say “We told you so.”</b>  These terrorist acts (whether it was the killing   of the Isrealis at the 1972 Munich Olympics, or the hijacking of Air France Flight 139, where hostages were held at Entebbe  Airport in Uganda, or the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro), benefit Israel more than it does the Palestinians</p>
<p>If these British teachers want things to improve for the Palestinians, why don’t they set the example by having their government stop its participation in the occupation of Iraq?</p>
<p>This also goes to the Americans on the radical left who want to talk about Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, but do not want to discuss the United States’ war crimes around the world.</i><i></p>
<p>See Kurt Nimmo’s article about the events in London and Glasgow <a href="”http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=915”" rel="nofollow">http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=915</a></p>
<p>Pham Binh has a good article about this topic as well <a href="”http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/glasglow-murderous-masterminds-or-hopeless-idiots/”" rel="nofollow">http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/glasglow-murderous-masterminds-or-hopeless-idiots/</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: Bloomberg: An “Establishment” attractor in the fractal space of presidential power? &#171; Crooked Shepherds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloomberg: An “Establishment” attractor in the fractal space of presidential power? &#171; Crooked Shepherds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%E2%80%99s-good-for-you/ After WWII, the specter that used to haunt Europe was invited to sit at the table and given a small plate in return for no longer moving furniture at night. This arrangement, known as the welfare state, made possible the rebuilding of a capitalist Europe. But it was expensive. With the Soviet Union no longer, Europe’s capital is asking itself why it should continue paying. The financial world has a clear agenda. It is not made in Brussels or in Whitehall. If at all, it is made in the City of London. It is drummed up almost daily in the pages of The Financial Times and weekly in The Economist. European wages are too high. Social services are too lavish. Workers are living too long, working too little, enjoying too much time on the French Riviera. “ Europe” (namely the financial owners) cannot afford it. It makes European labor “uncompetitive”. There is too much “rigidity” in labor markets (i.e., too much stability in people’s lives). And taxes, needless to say, are far too high. What really hurts is that financial profits are too low and stock markets below the moon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%E2%80%99s-good-for-you/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%E2%80%99s-good-for-you/</a> After WWII, the specter that used to haunt Europe was invited to sit at the table and given a small plate in return for no longer moving furniture at night. This arrangement, known as the welfare state, made possible the rebuilding of a capitalist Europe. But it was expensive. With the Soviet Union no longer, Europe’s capital is asking itself why it should continue paying. The financial world has a clear agenda. It is not made in Brussels or in Whitehall. If at all, it is made in the City of London. It is drummed up almost daily in the pages of The Financial Times and weekly in The Economist. European wages are too high. Social services are too lavish. Workers are living too long, working too little, enjoying too much time on the French Riviera. “ Europe” (namely the financial owners) cannot afford it. It makes European labor “uncompetitive”. There is too much “rigidity” in labor markets (i.e., too much stability in people’s lives). And taxes, needless to say, are far too high. What really hurts is that financial profits are too low and stock markets below the moon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another btw: Lewis has a slightly more sophisticated take on the "existential enemy" than Huntington's billion person broad sweep. 

Mahmood Mamdani crystallizes the thesis of &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w20DhY1O2j8" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Good Muslim, Bad Muslim"&lt;/a&gt; predicated on deterministic "culturetalk".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another btw: Lewis has a slightly more sophisticated take on the &#8220;existential enemy&#8221; than Huntington&#8217;s billion person broad sweep. </p>
<p>Mahmood Mamdani crystallizes the thesis of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w20DhY1O2j8" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Good Muslim, Bad Muslim&#8221;</a> predicated on deterministic &#8220;culturetalk&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, something I forgot when posting the link to Bernard Lewis' hate-mongering: 'Clash of Civilizations' was a phrase coined by Lewis and it first appeared in a Sep. 1990 &lt;i&gt;Atlantic Monthly&lt;/i&gt; article entitled 'The
Roots of Muslim Rage'. Huntington used the phrase couple of years later to name his tome. 

This was around the time when policy wonks were casting about for some new &lt;i&gt;paradigm&lt;/i&gt; to replace that of the Cold War which had ended rather abruptly and whose departure was beginning to expose the finery of the rulers at home (anyone remember the "peace dividend"?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, something I forgot when posting the link to Bernard Lewis&#8217; hate-mongering: &#8216;Clash of Civilizations&#8217; was a phrase coined by Lewis and it first appeared in a Sep. 1990 <i>Atlantic Monthly</i> article entitled &#8216;The<br />
Roots of Muslim Rage&#8217;. Huntington used the phrase couple of years later to name his tome. </p>
<p>This was around the time when policy wonks were casting about for some new <i>paradigm</i> to replace that of the Cold War which had ended rather abruptly and whose departure was beginning to expose the finery of the rulers at home (anyone remember the &#8220;peace dividend&#8221;?).</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry Greenwood,

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed in the bombings by the U.S.  and its allies during the two invasions.  (Note: Israel was one of those countries that provided fake evidence about the WMDs, inorder to convince the U.S to invade Iraq, Iran may be next)  That hasn't stopped the terrorist attacks in Iraq.  There are  agent provocateurs helping to fuel the violence. See  http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&#38;code=20051015&#38;articleId=1089</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Greenwood,</p>
<p>Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed in the bombings by the U.S.  and its allies during the two invasions.  (Note: Israel was one of those countries that provided fake evidence about the WMDs, inorder to convince the U.S to invade Iraq, Iran may be next)  That hasn&#8217;t stopped the terrorist attacks in Iraq.  There are  agent provocateurs helping to fuel the violence. See  <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20051015&amp;articleId=1089" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20051015&amp;articleId=1089</a></p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-1934</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess who's 'about to &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qhaxp" rel="nofollow"&gt;take over&lt;/a&gt; Europe'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess who&#8217;s &#8216;about to <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qhaxp" rel="nofollow">take over</a> Europe&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-1932</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing for Ekosmo and his like minded ilk.  How about comparing what Israel does with how one of your heroes dealt with terrorist thugs. I’m speaking of  the Hama massacre, which occurred in 1982 when Hafez al-Assad's Syrian army bombed the town of Hama in order to quell a revolt by the Muslim Brotherhood. Amnesty International estimates between 10,000 and 25,000 were killed at Hama. Thomas Friedman has pointed out that never again have Muslim extremists threatened the Syrian government. This is the way to take care of business.  Does this (yawn) bore you Ekosmo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing for Ekosmo and his like minded ilk.  How about comparing what Israel does with how one of your heroes dealt with terrorist thugs. I’m speaking of  the Hama massacre, which occurred in 1982 when Hafez al-Assad&#8217;s Syrian army bombed the town of Hama in order to quell a revolt by the Muslim Brotherhood. Amnesty International estimates between 10,000 and 25,000 were killed at Hama. Thomas Friedman has pointed out that never again have Muslim extremists threatened the Syrian government. This is the way to take care of business.  Does this (yawn) bore you Ekosmo?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/why-boycott-israel-because-it%e2%80%99s-good-for-you/#comment-1931</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limerick, anyone who says, “I am not an Islamophobe, but….” must do some soul searching. Your comment is exactly what this article is about—the role of Israel in the production of an existential enemy that straddles the left-right spectrum. 

Max, many thanks! As for the question you raise, an academic boycott is one tool, to be used where it can work. It is not the ultimate weapon. We are in no position to initiate the one true strategy, since we do not command an army. We are a multitude and our only way of fighting is by mobilizing through our diversity, each from the specific opportunities afforded by one’s position. An academic boycott is powerful because it attacks Israel from a position deeply implicated in the production of the narrative of Western progress, the very narrative that is operative in the inoculation of Zionism. It is a contribution radical European academics can and should make and an important educational tool, no more but also no less.   

Rowan, that is an interesting point, probably worth a full article.  I am not sure however that “objective sociology” is the most appropriate term, in so far as an objective account of elites is a contradiction in terms. I'd say objectivity is fixed by the elitist gaze. 

Bill, of course you are right, but being right is not enough. Real change cannot be the result of pure moralizing. The categories through which one cries about injustice tend to be implicated in its production. “Human rights,” which is the usual category though which Israel is criticized as an offender, is also the term that produces the Enemy that sustains Israel’s power.  

Steven, thank you! And these are some great examples that add flesh to the point. As for your criticism, I did not mention anti-globalization, mostly for reasons of space. But I never said neo-liberalism is not haunted, only that the haunting is no way near the stresses capitalism experienced in the inter-war period, a view you seem to share. 

As for the apparent stupidity and transparency of the neo-conservative language: on the one hand, I cannot but agree, the usual cliché of tragedy returning as farce is operative here. But I also note that what appears transparent and crude to us makes sense to millions of people. We forget the way stupidity itself is manufactured at our peril. We also forget that the purpose of hegemonic discourse is not necessarily to convince, but chiefly to foreclose and to disempower. 

Thank you all! And note also two administrative comments: 

1. Republication with attribution is welcome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limerick, anyone who says, “I am not an Islamophobe, but….” must do some soul searching. Your comment is exactly what this article is about—the role of Israel in the production of an existential enemy that straddles the left-right spectrum. </p>
<p>Max, many thanks! As for the question you raise, an academic boycott is one tool, to be used where it can work. It is not the ultimate weapon. We are in no position to initiate the one true strategy, since we do not command an army. We are a multitude and our only way of fighting is by mobilizing through our diversity, each from the specific opportunities afforded by one’s position. An academic boycott is powerful because it attacks Israel from a position deeply implicated in the production of the narrative of Western progress, the very narrative that is operative in the inoculation of Zionism. It is a contribution radical European academics can and should make and an important educational tool, no more but also no less.   </p>
<p>Rowan, that is an interesting point, probably worth a full article.  I am not sure however that “objective sociology” is the most appropriate term, in so far as an objective account of elites is a contradiction in terms. I&#8217;d say objectivity is fixed by the elitist gaze. </p>
<p>Bill, of course you are right, but being right is not enough. Real change cannot be the result of pure moralizing. The categories through which one cries about injustice tend to be implicated in its production. “Human rights,” which is the usual category though which Israel is criticized as an offender, is also the term that produces the Enemy that sustains Israel’s power.  </p>
<p>Steven, thank you! And these are some great examples that add flesh to the point. As for your criticism, I did not mention anti-globalization, mostly for reasons of space. But I never said neo-liberalism is not haunted, only that the haunting is no way near the stresses capitalism experienced in the inter-war period, a view you seem to share. </p>
<p>As for the apparent stupidity and transparency of the neo-conservative language: on the one hand, I cannot but agree, the usual cliché of tragedy returning as farce is operative here. But I also note that what appears transparent and crude to us makes sense to millions of people. We forget the way stupidity itself is manufactured at our peril. We also forget that the purpose of hegemonic discourse is not necessarily to convince, but chiefly to foreclose and to disempower. </p>
<p>Thank you all! And note also two administrative comments: </p>
<p>1. Republication with attribution is welcome.<br />
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		<title>By: Terry Greenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Max Shields question "So, this is a joke?"  Perhaps Mr. Shields doesn't understand sarcasm.  Randall Jones comment about "Isreal’s use of agent provocateurs to fuel the violence in Palestine" is a non sequitur.  The comments Ekosmo are manifestly lame.  The link is also a non sequitur.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Max Shields question &#8220;So, this is a joke?&#8221;  Perhaps Mr. Shields doesn&#8217;t understand sarcasm.  Randall Jones comment about &#8220;Isreal’s use of agent provocateurs to fuel the violence in Palestine&#8221; is a non sequitur.  The comments Ekosmo are manifestly lame.  The link is also a non sequitur.</p>
<p>Terry Greenwood,</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Sherman</dc:creator>
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		<description>Max--'the war on terror' certainly displaced all other concerns in the US for a few years.    I think the hope was that the war on terror would provide global elites with something to rally around to replace communism, but this has not been the case.  The US has at times tried to assimilate its strategy in Latin America to 'the war on terror', but the gaps in logic are obvious to everyone, in ways that I think were not apparent when anti-nationalism was assimilated to anti-communism during the cold war.  Now even domestically  it's worn thin, and immigration bashing (and China bashing) are certainly useful ways to direct attention away from domestic elites who have much to answer for.  This also has interesting parallels to the past, based on Ash's article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max&#8211;&#8217;the war on terror&#8217; certainly displaced all other concerns in the US for a few years.    I think the hope was that the war on terror would provide global elites with something to rally around to replace communism, but this has not been the case.  The US has at times tried to assimilate its strategy in Latin America to &#8216;the war on terror&#8217;, but the gaps in logic are obvious to everyone, in ways that I think were not apparent when anti-nationalism was assimilated to anti-communism during the cold war.  Now even domestically  it&#8217;s worn thin, and immigration bashing (and China bashing) are certainly useful ways to direct attention away from domestic elites who have much to answer for.  This also has interesting parallels to the past, based on Ash&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekosmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ekosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Angie Tibbs
I doubt Limerick will further “elaborate” on anything…

As the “noble Zionist” narrative unravels daily, and the verbal contortionism involved in rationally defending its position increases to absurd and ridiculous heights, Israeli apologists are increasingly reduced to spam posting cascades of hyperventilating nonsensical gobble-de-gook -- often in 1-shot, hit-and-run damp squibs that illuminates only their paranoid and feverish Hasbara fuelled imaginings…

These of course warn us that if any form of Palestinian statehood is implemented, the next inevitability will be cattle wagons of Israelis being “extraordinarily renditioned” to some imaginary Middle East Auschwitz … ad nauseum…

After a bizarre geography lesson notable only for its infantile stupidity, Limerick then concludes that we all should “put [ourselves] in the shoes of a country that every day faces the threat of extinction, and the death of all of its citizens….” 

Where, Dear Reader, have we encountered these sentiments before… [yawn….]

…perhaps contained within Terry Greenwood’s invitation to consider his deep concerns and sincere heartfelt sympathy for the fate of 

“Jamal Abu Jadian, a top Fatah commander seeking aid at Kamal Udwan Hospital when he was discovered by Hamas thugs…” 

Before inviting us to applaud the benign and benevolent Israeli health care system, Terry’s post is remarkable for remaining utterly and stupefyingly oblivious to the Zionist High Command and the ‘Murikan medias’ 50-plus years of comparing Yasser Arafat to Hitler whilst bombing, assassinating, starving and Satanizing his PLO-Fatah “thugs” and “terrorists” – and their civilian-refugee civilian population -- at each and every opportunity… 

Terry intones about numerous “convenient silences…”  [yawn]

Here’s another recent “convenient silence” Terry – straight outa the Jerusalem Post 

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&#38;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

– and splashed across every front-page of every major western mass media outlet… 

er… NOT…!

Moral of the Story
When the ANC and the collaborationist Zulu-Inkhata movement battled to control the black ghettos during the local untermenschen’s fight to end racist minority rule in white Sth Africa [passim], no doubt Terry and Limerick would also have applauded the local Ubermenchen’s health care system…

Moreover, this [formerly] beleaguered, tormented and eternally persecuted outpost of “democratic civilisation” -- similarly living in abject daily fear of being “driven into the sea” [sic], and of which the Zionist “thug” and “terror” state entered into numerous mutual defence and security pacts as a protection against their native, indigenous, defenceless “thugs” and “terrorists” -- is without doubt a past model for the current depraved state and government of Israel…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Angie Tibbs<br />
I doubt Limerick will further “elaborate” on anything…</p>
<p>As the “noble Zionist” narrative unravels daily, and the verbal contortionism involved in rationally defending its position increases to absurd and ridiculous heights, Israeli apologists are increasingly reduced to spam posting cascades of hyperventilating nonsensical gobble-de-gook &#8212; often in 1-shot, hit-and-run damp squibs that illuminates only their paranoid and feverish Hasbara fuelled imaginings…</p>
<p>These of course warn us that if any form of Palestinian statehood is implemented, the next inevitability will be cattle wagons of Israelis being “extraordinarily renditioned” to some imaginary Middle East Auschwitz … ad nauseum…</p>
<p>After a bizarre geography lesson notable only for its infantile stupidity, Limerick then concludes that we all should “put [ourselves] in the shoes of a country that every day faces the threat of extinction, and the death of all of its citizens….” </p>
<p>Where, Dear Reader, have we encountered these sentiments before… [yawn….]</p>
<p>…perhaps contained within Terry Greenwood’s invitation to consider his deep concerns and sincere heartfelt sympathy for the fate of </p>
<p>“Jamal Abu Jadian, a top Fatah commander seeking aid at Kamal Udwan Hospital when he was discovered by Hamas thugs…” </p>
<p>Before inviting us to applaud the benign and benevolent Israeli health care system, Terry’s post is remarkable for remaining utterly and stupefyingly oblivious to the Zionist High Command and the ‘Murikan medias’ 50-plus years of comparing Yasser Arafat to Hitler whilst bombing, assassinating, starving and Satanizing his PLO-Fatah “thugs” and “terrorists” – and their civilian-refugee civilian population &#8212; at each and every opportunity… </p>
<p>Terry intones about numerous “convenient silences…”  [yawn]</p>
<p>Here’s another recent “convenient silence” Terry – straight outa the Jerusalem Post </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527966693&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</a></p>
<p>– and splashed across every front-page of every major western mass media outlet… </p>
<p>er… NOT…!</p>
<p>Moral of the Story<br />
When the ANC and the collaborationist Zulu-Inkhata movement battled to control the black ghettos during the local untermenschen’s fight to end racist minority rule in white Sth Africa [passim], no doubt Terry and Limerick would also have applauded the local Ubermenchen’s health care system…</p>
<p>Moreover, this [formerly] beleaguered, tormented and eternally persecuted outpost of “democratic civilisation” &#8212; similarly living in abject daily fear of being “driven into the sea” [sic], and of which the Zionist “thug” and “terror” state entered into numerous mutual defence and security pacts as a protection against their native, indigenous, defenceless “thugs” and “terrorists” &#8212; is without doubt a past model for the current depraved state and government of Israel…</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven Sherman,

I pretty much concur with what you've said, but I don't think the subject has changed regarding globalization. Neoliberalism is a failure. Latin America is demonstrating nation by nation an alternative. Now whether the alternative  will find a way to develop and flurish is a question. The US is more or less absorbed in the Middle East and it's CIA tricks are frequently ineffective in toppling governments, though they are fomenting as much mayhem as possible in Venezuela.

I think the anti-corporate/capitalistic globalization movement is alive. Again, can it be sustained? That is always the question. What changes the subject domestically is the divide and conquer routine of immigation. The invisible hand of NAFTA has dissipated and racist immigration psyches are stirred on the ground. But that's not new in Amerika. I see transformative forces even here (however nascent these forces are).

To the larger issue of boycott. An acedemic boycott - that is one that targets Israeli acedemics - seems to be the wrong lever, particularly in the US where it would surely backfire (and I don't think there are many Israeli acedemicians in the US anyway). The issue is Israel'a colonialism vis-avis US/West hegemony and apartheid. In other words, the state of Israel must be the target of an all out boycott. That's why I think Oren Ben-Dor speaks to the heart of the matter (within the Israel/Palestinian context).

Mr. Ash takes the narrative in a much broader direction. And for that I too think he has written and excellent piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Sherman,</p>
<p>I pretty much concur with what you&#8217;ve said, but I don&#8217;t think the subject has changed regarding globalization. Neoliberalism is a failure. Latin America is demonstrating nation by nation an alternative. Now whether the alternative  will find a way to develop and flurish is a question. The US is more or less absorbed in the Middle East and it&#8217;s CIA tricks are frequently ineffective in toppling governments, though they are fomenting as much mayhem as possible in Venezuela.</p>
<p>I think the anti-corporate/capitalistic globalization movement is alive. Again, can it be sustained? That is always the question. What changes the subject domestically is the divide and conquer routine of immigation. The invisible hand of NAFTA has dissipated and racist immigration psyches are stirred on the ground. But that&#8217;s not new in Amerika. I see transformative forces even here (however nascent these forces are).</p>
<p>To the larger issue of boycott. An acedemic boycott - that is one that targets Israeli acedemics - seems to be the wrong lever, particularly in the US where it would surely backfire (and I don&#8217;t think there are many Israeli acedemicians in the US anyway). The issue is Israel&#8217;a colonialism vis-avis US/West hegemony and apartheid. In other words, the state of Israel must be the target of an all out boycott. That&#8217;s why I think Oren Ben-Dor speaks to the heart of the matter (within the Israel/Palestinian context).</p>
<p>Mr. Ash takes the narrative in a much broader direction. And for that I too think he has written and excellent piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  It is refreshing to read a perspective explaining the importance of Israel in ruling class imaginaries that does not resort to the vaguely anti-semitic approach of 'the Jews are incredibly powerful in (the US, Europe, etc)'.  Even before 9-11, support for Israel was used as a cudgel to isolate Western liberals from the global left.  For example, when Nelson Mandela received a very warm welcome in the US, trouble was stirred up around the fact that he was sympathetic to the political objectives of the PLO.  It was widely recognized that this would be more disturbing to liberals than any pro-Cuban statements he may have made at some point.  Similarly, the US walked out on the Durbin conference on racism on grounds of 'anti-semitism', conveniently avoiding discussion of reperations for all forms of colonialism/racism that had been raised.   Now, of course, to not support Israel is to embrace Al Quaeda.  The predictable tendency of the global left to sympathize with those targeted by the West proves the 'anti-semitism' of the former--why else would Hugo Chavez develop relations with Iran?

There is one serious error in this article.  You say that the rallying around the 'far enemy' of Islam comes at a time when no spectre haunts the West.  Yet just before 9-11, the anti-global (or whatever you'd like to call it) movement was gaining strength.  While not on the verge of producing revolutionary change in the US or Europe, it was raising serious questions about neoliberalism and ultimately capitalism.  How convenient to completely change the subject to the 'defence of civilization' against the Islamic 'threat'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  It is refreshing to read a perspective explaining the importance of Israel in ruling class imaginaries that does not resort to the vaguely anti-semitic approach of &#8216;the Jews are incredibly powerful in (the US, Europe, etc)&#8217;.  Even before 9-11, support for Israel was used as a cudgel to isolate Western liberals from the global left.  For example, when Nelson Mandela received a very warm welcome in the US, trouble was stirred up around the fact that he was sympathetic to the political objectives of the PLO.  It was widely recognized that this would be more disturbing to liberals than any pro-Cuban statements he may have made at some point.  Similarly, the US walked out on the Durbin conference on racism on grounds of &#8216;anti-semitism&#8217;, conveniently avoiding discussion of reperations for all forms of colonialism/racism that had been raised.   Now, of course, to not support Israel is to embrace Al Quaeda.  The predictable tendency of the global left to sympathize with those targeted by the West proves the &#8216;anti-semitism&#8217; of the former&#8211;why else would Hugo Chavez develop relations with Iran?</p>
<p>There is one serious error in this article.  You say that the rallying around the &#8216;far enemy&#8217; of Islam comes at a time when no spectre haunts the West.  Yet just before 9-11, the anti-global (or whatever you&#8217;d like to call it) movement was gaining strength.  While not on the verge of producing revolutionary change in the US or Europe, it was raising serious questions about neoliberalism and ultimately capitalism.  How convenient to completely change the subject to the &#8216;defence of civilization&#8217; against the Islamic &#8216;threat&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
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		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 06:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serge Halimi has written recently on &lt;a href="http://mondediplo.com/2007/06/02france" rel="nofollow"&gt;how&lt;/a&gt; templates of ideas are transplanted from the New World to the Old (which due to its own inferiority complex vis-a-vis the top dog state is quite receptive to conventional wisdom or "best practices" in elite circles there). The Neoliberal way of governance has been tried for more than a decade on the continent, but it's still not broken through the stalemate that Gabriel Ash talks about. But, allied with Neoconservative authoritarianism it might actually get European publics to give up their traditional rights. 

If anyone's interested, here's another interesting &lt;a href="http://progressive.org/playlists/drury05.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;audio&lt;/a&gt; interview of Shadia Drury in which in addition to the "Enemy" bogeyman, she talks about the Neoconservative typology of the Wise Men, Gentlemen, and the hoi polloi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge Halimi has written recently on <a href="http://mondediplo.com/2007/06/02france" rel="nofollow">how</a> templates of ideas are transplanted from the New World to the Old (which due to its own inferiority complex vis-a-vis the top dog state is quite receptive to conventional wisdom or &#8220;best practices&#8221; in elite circles there). The Neoliberal way of governance has been tried for more than a decade on the continent, but it&#8217;s still not broken through the stalemate that Gabriel Ash talks about. But, allied with Neoconservative authoritarianism it might actually get European publics to give up their traditional rights. </p>
<p>If anyone&#8217;s interested, here&#8217;s another interesting <a href="http://progressive.org/playlists/drury05.mp3" rel="nofollow">audio</a> interview of Shadia Drury in which in addition to the &#8220;Enemy&#8221; bogeyman, she talks about the Neoconservative typology of the Wise Men, Gentlemen, and the hoi polloi.</p>
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