Comments on: Open Letter to Ron Paul http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:33:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: David Helfer http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1232 David Helfer Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1232 I have been very interested in Rudy Giuliani for president. He has the charisma of a leader. He is tough on terrorists. However, I recently heard about Ron Paul wanting to dismantle the IRS and that the IRS is a corporate entity that puts none of our income taxes back into supporting American infrastructure. In addition, there is no law that allows the IRS to collect income tax from individuals. I also found out Ron Paul is against the North American Union, which is a plan to unite the USA, Mexico and Canada as one governed nation -- and that this is just one part in the overall plan for One World Government, which would be run by corporate bankers. I would love to vote for someone else, but these issues are too big to ignore. As an American, I have to vote for Ron Paul. I have been very interested in Rudy Giuliani for president. He has the charisma of a leader. He is tough on terrorists.

However, I recently heard about Ron Paul wanting to dismantle the IRS and that the IRS is a corporate entity that puts none of our income taxes back into supporting American infrastructure. In addition, there is no law that allows the IRS to collect income tax from individuals.

I also found out Ron Paul is against the North American Union, which is a plan to unite the USA, Mexico and Canada as one governed nation — and that this is just one part in the overall plan for One World Government, which would be run by corporate bankers.

I would love to vote for someone else, but these issues are too big to ignore. As an American, I have to vote for Ron Paul.

]]> By: nobo http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1211 nobo Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:37:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1211 " Maybe you guys better read this stuff on the Daily Kos about Ron Paul. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787 " Socialism is liberal ends by conservative means. This approach, of somehow guaranteeing "social justice" by means of *force*, stands totally refuted by the facts of history. Every single regulatory agency in the US, the EPA, OSHA, SEC, FDA, FDIC, IRS, SSA, FedReserve, and on and on and on, every single one was sold as a "progressive reform". And, *without exception*, each is in fact the tool of a corporate/statist oligopoly that is strangling individual freedom and liberty in this country. What is the difference, ultimately, between holding a gun to an Iraqi's head and making him be a "good democratic citizen", and holding a gun to *my* head and enforcing some "social contract" that is a figment of your imagination? The brutal truth is, modern leftism *opened* the doors to the rightist horror we now see unfolding. So whine about the neocons all you like; you set the table for them in your appalling hubris. Personally, I'm willing to die rather than be a slave - whether of Hitler or Stalin, whether of Dubya or the disgusting Stalinists put forward as Maximum Leader by the gatekeepers at DailyKos. The time to fight is *now*, before we get stuffed into cattle cars or shipped off en masse to some latter day Siberia. Liberals, examine your methods. If you really believe in true LIBERALISM, the empowerment of humanity person by person, then wake up and help us fight for *LIBERTY*. We'll welcome you with open arms - a lot of us in the liberty movement came from your side of the political "fence". ”
Maybe you guys better read this stuff on the Daily Kos about Ron Paul.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787
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Socialism is liberal ends by conservative means.

This approach, of somehow guaranteeing “social justice” by means of *force*, stands totally refuted by the facts of history. Every single regulatory agency in the US, the EPA, OSHA, SEC, FDA, FDIC, IRS, SSA, FedReserve, and on and on and on, every single one was sold as a “progressive reform”. And, *without exception*, each is in fact the tool of a corporate/statist oligopoly that is strangling individual freedom and liberty in this country.

What is the difference, ultimately, between holding a gun to an Iraqi’s head and making him be a “good democratic citizen”, and holding a gun to *my* head and enforcing some “social contract” that is a figment of your imagination?

The brutal truth is, modern leftism *opened* the doors to the rightist horror we now see unfolding. So whine about the neocons all you like; you set the table for them in your appalling hubris.

Personally, I’m willing to die rather than be a slave - whether of Hitler or Stalin, whether of Dubya or the disgusting Stalinists put forward as Maximum Leader by the gatekeepers at DailyKos. The time to fight is *now*, before we get stuffed into cattle cars or shipped off en masse to some latter day Siberia.

Liberals, examine your methods. If you really believe in true LIBERALISM, the empowerment of humanity person by person, then wake up and help us fight for *LIBERTY*. We’ll welcome you with open arms - a lot of us in the liberty movement came from your side of the political “fence”.

]]> By: Mark Ferguson http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1201 Mark Ferguson Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:21:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1201 This is just a covert attack on Ron Paul -- the fact that you've aired this one little grievance about Ron Paul in a public forum instead of a private letter to him. I resent this type of cowardice. I suggest you send this letter directly to Ron Paul and get an actual reply. When you do, I can guarantee it will be a sane one. And I expect you to print it here. This is just a covert attack on Ron Paul — the fact that you’ve aired this one little grievance about Ron Paul in a public forum instead of a private letter to him. I resent this type of cowardice. I suggest you send this letter directly to Ron Paul and get an actual reply. When you do, I can guarantee it will be a sane one. And I expect you to print it here.

]]> By: RLaing http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1188 RLaing Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:07:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1188 I wonder how long it will be before he no longer gets invited to Republican 'debates'. Betcha Mike Gravel doesn't last much longer in Democratic debates either. Both of these are guilty of saying things that can be distinguished from what the others are saying on more than style. I wonder how long it will be before he no longer gets invited to Republican ‘debates’.

Betcha Mike Gravel doesn’t last much longer in Democratic debates either.

Both of these are guilty of saying things that can be distinguished from what the others are saying on more than style.

]]> By: Linda J http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1187 Linda J Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:30:57 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1187 Maybe you guys better read this stuff on the Daily Kos about Ron Paul. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787 Maybe you guys better read this stuff on the Daily Kos about Ron Paul.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/193414/2787

]]> By: R.Rose http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1184 R.Rose Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:50:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1184 Ron Paul is a man to be admired. I have donated to the campaign as well we have done some fundraising at our office. All 35 employees where I work are behind Ron Paul. He is not some Washington corporate whore like the rest of them, he is the real deal. He is our only hope of seeing the true United States of America again. It's time to repair the damage that Bush and his band of traitors have inflicted on our nation. Ron Paul is a man to be admired. I have donated to the campaign as well we have done some fundraising at our office. All 35 employees where I work are behind Ron Paul. He is not some Washington corporate whore like the rest of them, he is the real deal. He is our only hope of seeing the true United States of America again. It’s time to repair the damage that Bush and his band of traitors have inflicted on our nation.

]]> By: Micah http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1182 Micah Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:01:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1182 I have confidence that this issue is important to him but it isn't critical for this campaign he is sticking to the top issues in public view. Iraq, Defense, Border Control, and the Economy. No politician to date has been able cover all these issues as well as Dr. Paul. I have confidence that this issue is important to him but it isn’t critical for this campaign he is sticking to the top issues in public view. Iraq, Defense, Border Control, and the Economy.

No politician to date has been able cover all these issues as well as Dr. Paul.

]]> By: Sam Marsh http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1178 Sam Marsh Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:42:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1178 I have to agree that a Constitutional Convention, at this time, with the neocons and socialists controlling the agenda and the media, is pure folly. We could lose everything! Maybe, when and if Dr. Paul is president, and we have cleaned house in Congress, such an idea might be safe, but certainly not right now. I have to agree that a Constitutional Convention, at this time, with the neocons and socialists controlling the agenda and the media, is pure folly. We could lose everything! Maybe, when and if Dr. Paul is president, and we have cleaned house in Congress, such an idea might be safe, but certainly not right now.

]]> By: Artus Register http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1174 Artus Register Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:47:41 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1174 A Constitutional convention? Have you lost your mind? Such a convention would allow the current congress to do whatever they wanted to our Constitution. No portion of it, not even the Bill of Rights would be safe! Can you imagine this congress being able to simply re-write the Constitution to reflect whatever collectivist, statist goals du jour their twisted minds can create? There is no way to hold a convention and leave ANY portion of the Constitution safe from alteration or deletion. The only way to keep the Constitution safe is to never have a Con-Con whereby it would doubtless cease to exist as the freedom-protecting document that it is. A call for such a convention demonstrates either an untter disregard for the protections of the Constitution or an abject ignorance about what such a convention truly is. A Constitutional convention? Have you lost your mind? Such a convention would allow the current congress to do whatever they wanted to our Constitution. No portion of it, not even the Bill of Rights would be safe! Can you imagine this congress being able to simply re-write the Constitution to reflect whatever collectivist, statist goals du jour their twisted minds can create?
There is no way to hold a convention and leave ANY portion of the Constitution safe from alteration or deletion.
The only way to keep the Constitution safe is to never have a Con-Con whereby it would doubtless cease to exist as the freedom-protecting document that it is. A call for such a convention demonstrates either an untter disregard for the protections of the Constitution or an abject ignorance about what such a convention truly is.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1168 Kevin Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:46:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/06/open-letter-to-ron-paul/#comment-1168 C'mon, as if Dr. Paul's campaign doesn't have enough changes involved. Maybe you should wait til he's elected before you harp on an obscure element of law. He's already standing up to so much. How much more baggage does he need? C’mon, as if Dr. Paul’s campaign doesn’t have enough changes involved. Maybe you should wait til he’s elected before you harp on an obscure element of law. He’s already standing up to so much. How much more baggage does he need?

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