Comments on: Who Are These People and Where Did They Come From? Developing Minds Want to Know http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:30:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Weed http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-2703 Weed Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:45:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-2703 Oh my God! Did he really say that? Everyone knows the energy is the first thought in every governments mind at this time. That's why Iraq started this mess in the first place, they wanted the oil. If it wasn't for the US....... Oh my God! Did he really say that?

Everyone knows the energy is the first thought in every governments mind at this time. That’s why Iraq started this mess in the first place, they wanted the oil. If it wasn’t for the US…….

]]> By: Pompeyo Andrade http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-1031 Pompeyo Andrade Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:50:59 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-1031 Dear Mr. Mark Drolette: Although really amusing, your article makes the same mistake as Noam Chomsky (Hegemony or Survival) - where he exposes a minutious account of the policies of the US evil-empire against the whole of humanity. He blames the latest policies on Bush and the neocons, the same as you do. However, these people are non-entities if taken apart. The real power is the Jewish lobby and the Jewish press. The 33% of the US population that supports Bush and his policies has been brain-washed for decades by religious sects that are financed by Jewish interests. It is said that the US is a country that has been colonized by Israel and whose purpose now is to fight the Israel wars in order to control the Middle East. Republicans and Democrats agree in their support to Israel and the US Congress is totally controlled by the Jewish Lobby. So, ¿Why the insistence is blaming the messengers? It would do no good to make a regime change, for what is needed is a complete revolution that restores power to the American people, starting by eliminating the Jewish control of the media (90%). ¿Can this be called freedom of expression? The American people are now the equivalent of the American Indians that were colonized and subjected to centuries of slavery and indoctrination. Well, what we have now is the enslavement of the American workers to the elite corporations (mostly Jewish) that control the money supply, the war machineries and the world energy sources. We are serving Moloch, only we dont say. Dear Mr. Mark Drolette:

Although really amusing, your article makes the same mistake as Noam Chomsky (Hegemony or Survival) - where he exposes a minutious account of the policies of the US evil-empire against the whole of humanity. He blames the latest policies on Bush and the neocons, the same as you do. However, these people are non-entities if taken apart. The real power is the Jewish lobby and the Jewish press. The 33% of the US population that supports Bush and his policies has been brain-washed for decades by religious sects that are financed by Jewish interests. It is said that the US is a country that has been colonized by Israel and whose purpose now is to fight the Israel wars in order to control the Middle East. Republicans and Democrats agree in their support to Israel and the US Congress is totally controlled by the Jewish Lobby. So, ¿Why the insistence is blaming the messengers? It would do no good to make a regime change, for what is needed is a complete revolution that restores power to the American people, starting by eliminating the Jewish control of the media (90%). ¿Can this be called freedom of expression? The American people are now the equivalent of the American Indians that were colonized and subjected to centuries of slavery and indoctrination. Well, what we have now is the enslavement of the American workers to the elite corporations (mostly Jewish) that control the money supply, the war machineries and the world energy sources. We are serving Moloch, only we dont say.

]]> By: Fingal http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-1011 Fingal Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:39:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-1011 Re: America's conscience above. When interviewed by Dinah Shore (back in the day, yes), Frank Zappa responded to her suggestion that America has a conscience: "I don't think America *has* a conscience." "You don't?" "No, because if America had a conscience, its conscience would begin to *bother* it, and it would get up and make itself a sandwich." Re: America’s conscience above. When interviewed by Dinah Shore (back in the day, yes), Frank Zappa responded to her suggestion that America has a conscience:

“I don’t think America *has* a conscience.”

“You don’t?”

“No, because if America had a conscience, its conscience would begin to *bother* it, and it would get up and make itself a sandwich.”

]]> By: mm http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-896 mm Thu, 31 May 2007 18:03:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-896 Please leave the misanthropy to liberal Democrats. Cynicism is entirely reactionary. It also takes no account of your education and your advantages vs. everyone else. Most people don't have enough spare time to write on a blog, let alone read one. So 3 in 10 people have no problem with Bush. The good news is 7 in 10 do. Please leave the misanthropy to liberal Democrats. Cynicism is entirely reactionary. It also takes no account of your education and your advantages vs. everyone else. Most people don’t have enough spare time to write on a blog, let alone read one.

So 3 in 10 people have no problem with Bush.

The good news is 7 in 10 do.

]]> By: bert http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-878 bert Thu, 31 May 2007 08:10:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-878 I'm french, and I notice the same troubles in my own country. Despite five years of weird policy and without a single real result, the man who was elected president is called "a man of change" by the mainstream press. Even though he was a top minister and the head of the ruling party since five years... His gang is saying that it is time for new values, that is to say, work, family and nation... That was the motto of the Vichy gvt of Petain, back in 1940... Our own "democrats" (so-called "socialists") decided to fight back with decisions like "we'll ask for each french to display a french flag for the 14th of july"... There is no more free press in this country, all but a tiny part of the newspapers, Tv and radios are owned by arm dealers and other corporations, friends of the president. There is no more political opposition. This is the "new world order"... I’m french, and I notice the same troubles in my own country. Despite five years of weird policy and without a single real result, the man who was elected president is called “a man of change” by the mainstream press. Even though he was a top minister and the head of the ruling party since five years…
His gang is saying that it is time for new values, that is to say, work, family and nation…
That was the motto of the Vichy gvt of Petain, back in 1940…
Our own “democrats” (so-called “socialists”) decided to fight back with decisions like “we’ll ask for each french to display a french flag for the 14th of july”…
There is no more free press in this country, all but a tiny part of the newspapers, Tv and radios are owned by arm dealers and other corporations, friends of the president.
There is no more political opposition.

This is the “new world order”…

]]> By: Doug D. http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-866 Doug D. Thu, 31 May 2007 01:29:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-866 In response to Mr. Smith, I think the article above clearly doesn't blame Bush & Co exclusively, as evidenced by the last couple of sentences. We all know the narrative isn't "Everything was fine and dandy UNTIL...*dun Dun DUN!!*" What I've witnessed in the past 5 years has been breathtaking, and I agree with Cindy Sheehan that this isn't the country I love. People don't really give a damn how many children from Iraq, Afghanistan, or anywhere else are maimed and killed. This country really has no moral compass, and to the extent that maintenance of such a compass is the responsibility of each individual, our American experience (recently, and for a long time before) begs the question of what drives morality and decency. This question is not confined by the borders of America. Think of any violent, immoral or amoral groups, organizations, and individuals anywhere. Power. Greed. Hatred. I really fear for the future of our species. In response to Mr. Smith, I think the article above clearly doesn’t blame Bush & Co exclusively, as evidenced by the last couple of sentences. We all know the narrative isn’t “Everything was fine and dandy UNTIL…*dun Dun DUN!!*”
What I’ve witnessed in the past 5 years has been breathtaking, and I agree with Cindy Sheehan that this isn’t the country I love. People don’t really give a damn how many children from Iraq, Afghanistan, or anywhere else are maimed and killed. This country really has no moral compass, and to the extent that maintenance of such a compass is the responsibility of each individual, our American experience (recently, and for a long time before) begs the question of what drives morality and decency. This question is not confined by the borders of America. Think of any violent, immoral or amoral groups, organizations, and individuals anywhere. Power. Greed. Hatred. I really fear for the future of our species.

]]> By: David Alan Smith http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-862 David Alan Smith Thu, 31 May 2007 00:58:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-862 Entertainingly written, but I have to wonder about the apparent underlying assumption that if it weren't for Bush and the neocon "movement" that things would be much better. My take on it is just that the real trouble with our society (the trouble that gave rise to Bush and his pals) is much deeper than who happens to control the White House, Congress or the Supreme Court. To that 33% who support Bush, add at least another 33% who really don't see any problem with where we're at, except that "our boys" are getting killed. These folks don't really want anything different, they just want the unpleasantness to go away so that American dominance can continue. Entertainingly written, but I have to wonder about the apparent underlying assumption that if it weren’t for Bush and the neocon “movement” that things would be much better. My take on it is just that the real trouble with our society (the trouble that gave rise to Bush and his pals) is much deeper than who happens to control the White House, Congress or the Supreme Court.

To that 33% who support Bush, add at least another 33% who really don’t see any problem with where we’re at, except that “our boys” are getting killed. These folks don’t really want anything different, they just want the unpleasantness to go away so that American dominance can continue.

]]> By: opeluboy http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-854 opeluboy Wed, 30 May 2007 23:26:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-854 Can't add much to that! Can’t add much to that!

]]> By: Bonethug Iranian http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-845 Bonethug Iranian Wed, 30 May 2007 18:53:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/who-are-these-people-and-where-did-they-come-from-developing-minds-want-to-know/#comment-845 See the funny Democrats dancing to Israeli tunes. See the funny Republicons on the take and making war. See the funny Congress working treason on America. See the funny president exterminate our world. See the silly military killing indiscriminately everywhere. See the world engulfed in flames and CNN won't report on that news. See the funny Democrats dancing to Israeli tunes. See the funny Republicons on the take and making war. See the funny Congress working treason on America. See the funny president exterminate our world. See the silly military killing indiscriminately everywhere. See the world engulfed in flames and CNN won’t report on that news.

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