Comments on: God’s Son, Falwell’s Mother And The Rest of Us Ho’s http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:34:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Lila Rajiva http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-530 Lila Rajiva Wed, 23 May 2007 18:25:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-530 Ah, you're back...... You might be right. I don't know. I only lived in India for 25 years and saw mission money pour in from America to help people at hospitals who wouldn't have been treated otherwise. But perhaps you know better than me - that all evangelicals are bad. I personally avoid demonizing anyone or any group - it is simple- minded, besides being ugly. I thought that was what ethics and spirituality was about. I don't know if Falwell had a hand in a lot of charity or little or to what proportion. I said something good about him as it is customary to say something decent on someone's death or keep quiet. I by no means supported any of his positions on anything, but I hope I need not prove my opposition to someone by treating him as less than a human being. I wouldn't have written about him at all except I was rather revolted that people couldn't wait a day or two - even people who were very quiet and respectul over Saddam's hanging ... I don't think he is of that much consequence. If not him, someone else. Christian Zionism has many proponents. And yes, some televangelists make a lot of money and some are hucksters and no more. So are some socialists/communists. This is news? I know Robertson was involved in crooked dealings and have written about it, but I don't know that Falwell was - I haven't extensively researched him. In any case, that wasn't the point of the article. As for Christian Zionism - a brief google will refute you in 10 seconds flat as to where I stand on the issue. I have written articles in DV, Monthly Review and have a whole chapter on it in my book - and Falwell is in there too. My support for Norman Finkelstein under my own name is out there on the web as well as on radio interviews. I worked for 3 years full time on my net activism - living off my savings and was involved with petitioning on both the Kosovo war and Iraq war and the sanctions. What have you done lately, I wonder. But perhaps you actively want to sabotage your own cause. In that case, you succeeded as well as I succeeded in mine. The personal comment I will not answer as it speaks volumes.... About you. Enough please. You already wrote 3-4 times to my account - you are blocked there, so you write here. If you are concerned about the war, work against it constructively instead of harassing those who are. Peace. Ah, you’re back……

You might be right. I don’t know.

I only lived in India for 25 years and saw mission money pour in from America to help people at hospitals who wouldn’t have been treated otherwise. But perhaps you know better than me - that all evangelicals are bad. I personally avoid demonizing anyone or any group - it is simple- minded, besides being ugly. I thought that was what ethics and spirituality was about.

I don’t know if Falwell had a hand in a lot of charity or little or to what proportion. I said something good about him as it is customary to say something decent on someone’s death or keep quiet. I by no means supported any of his positions on anything, but I hope I need not prove my opposition to someone by treating him as less than a human being.

I wouldn’t have written about him at all except I was rather revolted that people couldn’t wait a day or two - even people who were very quiet and respectul over Saddam’s hanging …

I don’t think he is of that much consequence. If not him, someone else. Christian Zionism has many proponents.

And yes, some televangelists make a lot of money and some are hucksters and no more. So are some socialists/communists. This is news? I know Robertson was involved in crooked dealings and have written about it, but I don’t know that Falwell was - I haven’t extensively researched him. In any case, that wasn’t the point of the article.

As for Christian Zionism - a brief google will refute you in 10 seconds flat as to where I stand on the issue. I have written articles in DV, Monthly Review and have a whole chapter on it in my book - and Falwell is in there too. My support for Norman Finkelstein under my own name is out there on the web as well as on radio interviews.
I worked for 3 years full time on my net activism - living off my savings and was involved with petitioning on both the Kosovo war and Iraq war and the sanctions.

What have you done lately, I wonder.

But perhaps you actively want to sabotage your own cause. In that case, you succeeded as well as I succeeded in mine.

The personal comment I will not answer as it speaks volumes….

About you.

Enough please. You already wrote 3-4 times to my account - you are blocked there, so you write here.

If you are concerned about the war, work against it constructively instead of harassing those who are.

Peace.

]]> By: Ariadna http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-493 Ariadna Wed, 23 May 2007 00:12:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-493 I read that in one year he made $100 million and got very worried because the previous year he had raked in $187 million. So he stepped on the TV accelerator. ONE YEAR. It would take a HUGE number of hospitals built by him (and I never heard of them so where are they, Lila, and how many, give us FACTS), and a helluva lot of schools to impress anyone but the brainwashed. "He helped alcoholics" is pathetically lame. It is interesting how you pretend to be "objective" yet you defend him. Not well, but to the extent of your intellectual abilities. What has he done to earn your loyalty? You must have liked his support of the bloody zionist project. You are not a "pagan," come on.... You are a hasbara girl. I read that in one year he made $100 million and got very worried because the previous year he had raked in $187 million. So he stepped on the TV accelerator. ONE YEAR.
It would take a HUGE number of hospitals built by him (and I never heard of them so where are they, Lila, and how many, give us FACTS), and a helluva lot of schools to impress anyone but the brainwashed.
“He helped alcoholics” is pathetically lame.
It is interesting how you pretend to be “objective” yet you defend him. Not well, but to the extent of your intellectual abilities. What has he done to earn your loyalty? You must have liked his support of the bloody zionist project.
You are not a “pagan,” come on…. You are a hasbara girl.

]]> By: Lila Rajiva http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-454 Lila Rajiva Tue, 22 May 2007 03:52:40 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-454 I sympathize with the view that men as well as women should be treated as individuals. But individuals are not free of characteristics of their group. It's not either/ or, is it? I mean I don't have to believe in group rights to believe that rights belonging to people as individuals belong to them as individuals, who share certain characteristics. One of those is that a single mother in our society tends to be financially less able to care for herself. He helped alcholics. I don't know the statistics, but I wonder if there might not be more men in that group... I sympathize with the view that men as well as women should be treated as individuals. But individuals are not free of characteristics of their group. It’s not either/ or, is it? I mean I don’t have to believe in group rights to believe that rights belonging to people as individuals belong to them as individuals, who share certain characteristics.
One of those is that a single mother in our society tends to be financially less able to care for herself. He helped alcholics. I don’t know the statistics, but I wonder if there might not be more men in that group…

]]> By: Johan http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-453 Johan Tue, 22 May 2007 03:33:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-453 "there were several things I liked and respected in Dr. Falwell. He built schools and homes for single mothers" So why didn't he build schools and homes for ANYONE who needs them instead of discriminating against men? Because discriminating against men gets better PR than actually treating people like equals. The magnitude of the importance of that statement may escape everyone who reads it. “there were several things I liked and respected in Dr. Falwell. He built schools and homes for single mothers”

So why didn’t he build schools and homes for ANYONE who needs them instead of discriminating against men? Because discriminating against men gets better PR than actually treating people like equals. The magnitude of the importance of that statement may escape everyone who reads it.

]]> By: Ariadna http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-410 Ariadna Sun, 20 May 2007 03:13:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-410 Poppycovk. Nauseating poppycock at that. This eulogy does not belong on this site. Falwell's expressed hate of Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims as well as blacks or gays is "unlovely articulation of some text of Christian or Jewish scripture"?! Ipecac. Poppycovk. Nauseating poppycock at that.
This eulogy does not belong on this site.
Falwell’s expressed hate of Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims as well as blacks or gays is “unlovely articulation of some text of Christian or Jewish scripture”?!
Ipecac.

]]> By: liberal white boy http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-373 liberal white boy Fri, 18 May 2007 21:43:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/god%e2%80%99s-son-falwell%e2%80%99s-mother-and-the-rest-of-us-ho%e2%80%99s/#comment-373 If you call this a radical newsletter, people will think you are radical. I didn't read anything that seemed radical here. If you call this a radical newsletter, people will think you are radical. I didn’t read anything that seemed radical here.

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