Comments on: Durbin Gives Edwards More to Apologize For http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:25:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Gizmo http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-1197 Gizmo Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:26:44 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-1197 Dissent Voice, Durbin voted no on the resolution. the Republicans controlled the Senate. Dissent Voice, Durbin voted no on the resolution.

the Republicans controlled the Senate.

]]> By: bugs http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-252 bugs Tue, 15 May 2007 13:33:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-252 not that i'm trying to defend durbins silence, but lets get our facts straight. durbin voted no on hj res 114 back in oct. '02 just sayin'... not that i’m trying to defend durbins silence, but lets get our facts straight.
durbin voted no on hj res 114 back in oct. ‘02
just sayin’…

]]> By: Dissident Voice : Playing Politics With the Iraq War Brings Out the Worst in the Duopoly http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-197 Dissident Voice : Playing Politics With the Iraq War Brings Out the Worst in the Duopoly Sat, 12 May 2007 19:12:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-197 [...] the war. Bush certainly led us into war based on lies, but the Democrats knew they were lies as Sen. Dick Durbin admitted last week on the Senate floor, but voted in favor of the use of force resolution. Bush has [...] [...] the war. Bush certainly led us into war based on lies, but the Democrats knew they were lies as Sen. Dick Durbin admitted last week on the Senate floor, but voted in favor of the use of force resolution. Bush has [...]

]]> By: marty arrowsmith http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-195 marty arrowsmith Sat, 12 May 2007 16:20:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-195 Hey true patriot - if wanton death and destruction is what patriotism is about - keep it. Fortunately it is not and therefore you are not a truepatriot, but rather an enabler for the war criminals Clinton didn't invade and so once again blaming him for the illegal and immoral actions of the Bushies is simply absurd. In fact, it appears that outside of the vile Bush administration and the lap dog congress, a vast majoirity of the rest of the world knew that the kool-aid the Bushies were selling was laced with hate and bullsh**. Indeed 25% of Americans didn't even buy the BS at the time, despite the right wing propaganda machine's best efforts. Blix and Ritter didn't buy it either. And when all is said and done, there were no WMDs (except maybe ours), there was no link to Al Qaeda, and we went there due to hubris, ignorance, and oil. With respect to Durbin - the nerve to hide behind the idea that he couldn't stand up and be an honest, caring, and visionary statesman because of the super duper top-secret proceedings that would have put a more realistic story out to the general public is so lame as to defy understanding. It is the ultimate demonstration the silence is complicity. The generation currently in power is truly lost and has no (moral) compass to guide it. Look at the next set of panderers to choose from: McCain, Clinton, Romney, Edwards, Giulianni, etc, etc, etc Just frickin' great. Hey true patriot - if wanton death and destruction is what patriotism is about - keep it. Fortunately it is not and therefore you are not a truepatriot, but rather an enabler for the war criminals

Clinton didn’t invade and so once again blaming him for the illegal and immoral actions of the Bushies is simply absurd.

In fact, it appears that outside of the vile Bush administration and the lap dog congress, a vast majoirity of the rest of the world knew that the kool-aid the Bushies were selling was laced with hate and bullsh**. Indeed 25% of Americans didn’t even buy the BS at the time, despite the right wing propaganda machine’s best efforts. Blix and Ritter didn’t buy it either.

And when all is said and done, there were no WMDs (except maybe ours), there was no link to Al Qaeda, and we went there due to hubris, ignorance, and oil.

With respect to Durbin - the nerve to hide behind the idea that he couldn’t stand up and be an honest, caring, and visionary statesman because of the super duper top-secret proceedings that would have put a more realistic story out to the general public is so lame as to defy understanding.

It is the ultimate demonstration the silence is complicity. The generation currently in power is truly lost and has no (moral) compass to guide it. Look at the next set of panderers to choose from: McCain, Clinton, Romney, Edwards, Giulianni, etc, etc, etc

Just frickin’ great.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-138 Jeff Mon, 07 May 2007 20:31:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-138 You would make a mistake to assume that what Durbin says is true, and that the other members of the Intelligence Committee lied as he does. If the entire committee knew everything was "lies", they could readily have conveyed that to the public without violating any secrecy requirements. And yet now, years later, Durbin is breaking his silence? Right! You don't have to follow his career too closely to know that he is an intellectual lightweight who will make ignorant statements without any concept of what he is really saying. In his mind, he probably was only saying, "I'm a smart guy. Now that I think back on it, I was skeptical about what I heard. In fact, now that I really think back, I knew they were lying!" In reality, he's an idiot. My guess is that this is why his "blockbuster" statement has had so little mainstream press coverage - they know him and that it is probably not true. You would make a mistake to assume that what Durbin says is true, and that the other members of the Intelligence Committee lied as he does. If the entire committee knew everything was “lies”, they could readily have conveyed that to the public without violating any secrecy requirements. And yet now, years later, Durbin is breaking his silence? Right!

You don’t have to follow his career too closely to know that he is an intellectual lightweight who will make ignorant statements without any concept of what he is really saying. In his mind, he probably was only saying, “I’m a smart guy. Now that I think back on it, I was skeptical about what I heard. In fact, now that I really think back, I knew they were lying!” In reality, he’s an idiot.

My guess is that this is why his “blockbuster” statement has had so little mainstream press coverage - they know him and that it is probably not true.

]]> By: True patriot http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-122 True patriot Sat, 05 May 2007 22:16:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-122 You seem to have a very short memory, the clinton administration was saying the same things long before Bush said them: Text of President Clinton’s Address on Iraq By The Associated Press Tuesday, February 17, 1998; 1:32 p.m. EST It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability -- notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say -- UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/text021798.htm You seem to have a very short memory, the clinton administration was saying the same things long before Bush said them:

Text of President Clinton’s Address on Iraq
By The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 17, 1998; 1:32 p.m. EST

It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare
capability — notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism;
2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs.

And I might say — UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/text021798.htm

]]> By: Deadbeat http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-119 Deadbeat Sat, 05 May 2007 16:13:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/durbin-gives-edwards-more-to-apologize-for/#comment-119 Durbin is no hero. The Democrats in Congress who were in control of the Senate violated their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Durbin sounds like some two-bit amoral attorney who put the process before justice. Durbin is no hero. The Democrats in Congress who were in control of the Senate violated their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Durbin sounds like some two-bit amoral attorney who put the process before justice.

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