Comments on: Debating Barack Obama’s Cash Flow http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:09:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jasen http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-8608 Jasen Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:29:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-8608 John Edward is the only Democratic contender that isn't talking about expanding nuclear energy. The fact is that the money it would take to build these nuclear plants would have a lot more effect on cleaning up the atmosphere if it were spent increasing efficiency of existing coal plants. Nuclear energy has always been a close partner of the military industrial complex. The toxic waste produced from nuclear plants cannot be disposed of safely. Currently it is driven accross the country through many of our cities on its way to Yucca Mountain. The rrisks of nuclear energy alone make it a poor choice. Currently Denmark and Spain are leading the world in wind turbine production. Catching up with these countires in truely renewable energy technologies would be a far more responsible choice than allowing the influece of the uranium mining and nuclear industires. As far as supporting Lieberman and preventing a cieling on interest rates go - if these facts were more widely publisized I am confident that Obama would loose the majority of his supporters. John Edward is the only Democratic contender that isn’t talking about expanding nuclear energy. The fact is that the money it would take to build these nuclear plants would have a lot more effect on cleaning up the atmosphere if it were spent increasing efficiency of existing coal plants. Nuclear energy has always been a close partner of the military industrial complex. The toxic waste produced from nuclear plants cannot be disposed of safely. Currently it is driven accross the country through many of our cities on its way to Yucca Mountain. The rrisks of nuclear energy alone make it a poor choice. Currently Denmark and Spain are leading the world in wind turbine production. Catching up with these countires in truely renewable energy technologies would be a far more responsible choice than allowing the influece of the uranium mining and nuclear industires.

As far as supporting Lieberman and preventing a cieling on interest rates go - if these facts were more widely publisized I am confident that Obama would loose the majority of his supporters.

]]> By: Elsa http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-2491 Elsa Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:25:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-2491 I want to vote for the first time, but as I read, I'm reminded of why I never have done so. What for? Even if Barak Obama were not intent on giving all people (not real health care that could keep them alive) "health care" insurance, there would still be a very crooked congress and senate with which to contend. Even now, I don't really understand the issues over campaign contribution: lists of corporate contributors are to be found everywhere---does this mean that companies actually have blocks of employees write a check to campaigns, or what? That seems a bit strange, but must be what goes on. America is a truly bizarre place! Whatever the case, I have health insurance---and have nearly been killed (truly) by doctors more than once. And you can't complain. Getting the information about what happened after an illness is too difficult. So many people just can't live here, or build wealth anymore. Then people yell at those like me, who just don't vote. But I read all this...and think...for what? For whom? How DOES this campaign money get to the "candidates?" I want to vote for the first time, but as I read, I’m reminded of why I never have done so. What for? Even if Barak Obama were not intent on giving all people (not real health care that could keep them alive) “health care” insurance, there would still be a very crooked congress and senate with which to contend. Even now, I don’t really understand the issues over campaign contribution: lists of corporate contributors are to be found everywhere—does this mean that companies actually have blocks of employees write a check to campaigns, or what? That seems a bit strange, but must be what goes on. America is a truly bizarre place! Whatever the case, I have health insurance—and have nearly been killed (truly) by doctors more than once. And you can’t complain. Getting the information about what happened after an illness is too difficult. So many people just can’t live here, or build wealth anymore. Then people yell at those like me, who just don’t vote. But I read all this…and think…for what? For whom? How DOES this campaign money get to the “candidates?”

]]> By: Hatuxka http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-289 Hatuxka Wed, 16 May 2007 19:36:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-289 James, So you disagree. With the facts cited above? So he once was a community organizer and this shows that he couldn't have supported Lieberman, screwed the public with his corporatist votes and shilled for the nuclear industry as he is documented to have done, each based on huge contributions from powerful monied interests? I do agree with you he is "playing the game", which you seem to tacitly accept as one of sucking up to the powerful and carrying their water to the detriment of those he supposed to help, all so he can get elected. James,
So you disagree. With the facts cited above? So he once was a community organizer and this shows that he couldn’t have supported Lieberman, screwed the public with his corporatist votes and shilled for the nuclear industry as he is documented to have done, each based on huge contributions from powerful monied interests? I do agree with you he is “playing the game”, which you seem to tacitly accept as one of sucking up to the powerful and carrying their water to the detriment of those he supposed to help, all so he can get elected.

]]> By: Ato http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-283 Ato Wed, 16 May 2007 16:13:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-283 You should have left the rejoinder written by Abner Mikva alone. Your trying to rubbish the truth he presented makes you come out as very infantile and amateurish. If you are suggesting that Obama's donations came from corporations and not individuals then you should be bold enough to also state that Barack should be arrested as he has violated the law. You are definitely not well educated on campaign fianance, hence your amateurish article. Corporations are barred from donating, individuals aren't. If employees of a particular company and their families are donating to a candidate it doesn't mean the money is coming from the corporation's coffers. You can't twist facts. But if you insist on twisting facts, then apply that same illogical argument to all the other candidates and we'll see who's got his hands fully dipped into the corporate cookie jar. Use the same parameters to measure Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, then do the same with the GOP candidates, and you'll see you don't make any sense and are very biased and infantile. You should have left the rejoinder written by Abner Mikva alone. Your trying to rubbish the truth he presented makes you come out as very infantile and amateurish.
If you are suggesting that Obama’s donations came from corporations and not individuals then you should be bold enough to also state that Barack should be arrested as he has violated the law.
You are definitely not well educated on campaign fianance, hence your amateurish article. Corporations are barred from donating, individuals aren’t. If employees of a particular company and their families are donating to a candidate it doesn’t mean the money is coming from the corporation’s coffers. You can’t twist facts.
But if you insist on twisting facts, then apply that same illogical argument to all the other candidates and we’ll see who’s got his hands fully dipped into the corporate cookie jar. Use the same parameters to measure Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, then do the same with the GOP candidates, and you’ll see you don’t make any sense and are very biased and infantile.

]]> By: James http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-281 James Wed, 16 May 2007 15:21:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/05/debating-barack-obamas-cash-flow/#comment-281 I disagree. Obama is the real deal - the man left behind a lucrative career as an attorney to work as a community organizer in Chicago's South Side neighborhoods, prior to his entry into Illinois politics. If this doesn't show a committment to social justice, I don't know what does. As a national-level politician, he has no choice but to play the "game" to at least some extent in order to be a viable candidate. I disagree. Obama is the real deal - the man left behind a lucrative career as an attorney to work as a community organizer in Chicago’s South Side neighborhoods, prior to his entry into Illinois politics. If this doesn’t show a committment to social justice, I don’t know what does. As a national-level politician, he has no choice but to play the “game” to at least some extent in order to be a viable candidate.

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